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When there is smoke there must be fire.

Post by AndreFordT » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:41 am

During the rebuild of en engine last Saturday I was recharging the magnets by using the coil loop that came with the engine and was looking good.
Before I tested the coil ring by building it in serie with a 12V 21W light and a 12 battery and checking the change of polarity on each coil. No problem there.
For recharging the magnets, I use three 12V battery's in serie and flash the coil ring a few times. During this there was some smoke coming out of one coil.
Result: magneto coil ring need a rebuild!!!!

First I was thinking to replace only this coil but I found there was no insulation between the coil and the cotton warp. All the loop will come apart and will be rebuild.

Andre
Belgium

Had a sort like problem awhile ago but than there was some fire too.
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Re: When there is smoke there must be fire.

Post by AndreFordT » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:43 am

some more photos
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Re: When there is smoke there must be fire.

Post by Dallas Landers » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:08 am

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Dont forget to get a bottle of this for the rebuild. It is for the wiring harness but should work on the mag also. Same part number.. :D

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Re: When there is smoke there must be fire.

Post by AndreFordT » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:50 am

I forgot to collect the smoke so I will need your bottle. I am also looking for a can of elbow grease and skin varnish.

Have a fine Sunday. I will be rebuilding a coil loop

Andre
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Re: When there is smoke there must be fire.

Post by Jem » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:15 pm

Dallas, you faked that bottle! I recognise it, it's a Jaguar part.


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Re: When there is smoke there must be fire.

Post by Rich Bingham » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:53 pm

Jem, you nailed it ! Thing is, the Jag item is compatible with all Lucas systems. :lol:
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Re: When there is smoke there must be fire.

Post by Dallas Landers » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:11 pm

Whooda thunk it? A T and Jag part interchangable. :shock:

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Re: When there is smoke there must be fire.

Post by John Warren » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:49 am

Lucas. Prince of darkness 😂. And that is no joke.
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Re: When there is smoke there must be fire.

Post by AndreFordT » Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:01 pm

Guys, guys,

I am only going for the real stuff, no replacements only New Old Stock .
No Jaguar smoke but Model T smoke!
No monkey elbow grease but the real stuff!
No pig skin varnish but authentic skin varnish!


By the way the coil loop is nearly done.
:P :P :P :P
Andre
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: When there is smoke there must be fire.

Post by AndreFordT » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:04 pm

Missing two layers of polyester and one layer of isolation varnish to go and the fire is out.

Andre
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Re: When there is smoke there must be fire.

Post by AndreFordT » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:04 pm

Andre
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Re: When there is smoke there must be fire.

Post by Dallas Landers » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:37 pm

Nice work!!!
Looks as if the smoke will be contained nicely.

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