KW Coil Box Id

Discuss all things Model T related.
Forum rules
If you need help logging in, or have question about how something works, use the Support forum located here Support Forum
Complete set of Forum Rules Forum Rules
User avatar

Topic author
GEmering
Posts: 339
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:47 pm
First Name: Gene
Last Name: Emering
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1913 Touring and 1924 Touring
Location: Newton, New Jersey
MTFCA Number: 49671
Board Member Since: 2018

KW Coil Box Id

Post by GEmering » Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:24 pm

The KW coil box pictured was found in the back seat of a 1913 Ford Touring. The box shows traces of red paint on the front.
It does not appear to be repainted.
All the boxes I’ve seen have black and gold graphics.
Can someone identify the year of the KW box pictured?

Thank you,
Gene
Attachments
32D564A0-E5E0-41F5-A4D6-DFFE3D2E10CB.jpeg
Gene Emering
Newton, New Jersey

User avatar

RajoRacer
Posts: 4307
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:18 pm
First Name: Steve
Last Name: Tomaso
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1914 Touring, 1919 Centerdoor, 1924 TT C-Cab Express, 1925 Racer
Location: Longbranch, WA
MTFCA Number: 14972
MTFCI Number: 15411
Board Member Since: 2001

Re: KW Coil Box Id

Post by RajoRacer » Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:06 pm

1913, I believe.

User avatar

Topic author
GEmering
Posts: 339
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:47 pm
First Name: Gene
Last Name: Emering
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1913 Touring and 1924 Touring
Location: Newton, New Jersey
MTFCA Number: 49671
Board Member Since: 2018

Re: KW Coil Box Id

Post by GEmering » Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:51 pm

Steve,

Do you believe that the traces of red paint are original to the box?

In my very limited experience, I've not seen a KW with red graphics.

Gene
Gene Emering
Newton, New Jersey

User avatar

havnfun
Posts: 448
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:27 am
First Name: Joe
Last Name: Kowalczyk
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1918 Speedster, 1913 Runabout, 1923 Roadster, 1912 Mother-in-law roadster
Location: - Kuna, Idaho
MTFCA Number: 49558
Board Member Since: 2017

Re: KW Coil Box Id

Post by havnfun » Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:52 pm

Gene,

Here is a complete discussion around the K-W Coils and box

http://www.mtfca.com/coils/Coils.htm
Regards,
Joe Kowalczyk - 1923 Roadster, 1913 Runabout, 1918 Speedster, 1912 Mother-in-law roadster

User avatar

RajoRacer
Posts: 4307
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:18 pm
First Name: Steve
Last Name: Tomaso
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1914 Touring, 1919 Centerdoor, 1924 TT C-Cab Express, 1925 Racer
Location: Longbranch, WA
MTFCA Number: 14972
MTFCI Number: 15411
Board Member Since: 2001

Re: KW Coil Box Id

Post by RajoRacer » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:03 pm

I cannot verify what was the original color scheme on those switches but I do have a switch cover with red color in it's composition - not sure if it's a NOS or very old reproduction - only red one I've seen. I'll get a photo tomorrow.


Adam
Posts: 1411
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:57 am
First Name: Adam
Last Name: Doleshal
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: ‘13 Touring, ‘24 Touring, ‘25 TT dump truck, ‘26 Tudor, ‘20 Theiman harvester T powerplant, ‘20 T Staude tractor
Location: Wisconsin
MTFCA Number: 23809
MTFCI Number: 1
Board Member Since: 2000

Re: KW Coil Box Id

Post by Adam » Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:05 am

Here’s one I bought at a swap meet 2 weeks ago. Pretty nice original condition and painted black. Too bad it doesn’t have a lid...
24047A8D-6E89-491B-B9BE-A41327685C6B.jpeg


Adam
Posts: 1411
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:57 am
First Name: Adam
Last Name: Doleshal
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: ‘13 Touring, ‘24 Touring, ‘25 TT dump truck, ‘26 Tudor, ‘20 Theiman harvester T powerplant, ‘20 T Staude tractor
Location: Wisconsin
MTFCA Number: 23809
MTFCI Number: 1
Board Member Since: 2000

Re: KW Coil Box Id

Post by Adam » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:08 am

Forgot to mention; I posted this to show the seemingly original black paint (not stained & varnished). The brass switch plate is likely a replacement.


Original Smith
Posts: 3284
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:43 am
First Name: Larry
Last Name: Smith
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 13 Touring, 13 Roadster, 17 Coupelet, 25 Roadster P/U
Location: Lomita, California
MTFCA Number: 121
MTFCA Life Member: YES
MTFCI Number: 16310

Re: KW Coil Box Id

Post by Original Smith » Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:14 pm

A side view of that box would nail it! The red paint on the switch place was done at a later date. The only paint on the switch plate when new was in the KW circle. Your coil box has been revarnished at some point. They were originally the same color as the firewall.


Original Smith
Posts: 3284
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:43 am
First Name: Larry
Last Name: Smith
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 13 Touring, 13 Roadster, 17 Coupelet, 25 Roadster P/U
Location: Lomita, California
MTFCA Number: 121
MTFCA Life Member: YES
MTFCI Number: 16310

Re: KW Coil Box Id

Post by Original Smith » Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:07 pm

Adam:
If you will look at the top edge of your coilbox, there are traces of the original red stain. You are fortunate to have that box. Randall Andersons brother Jon can make you a new lid. I've discovered not all 1913 KW lids are interchangeable! I've probably owned a half dozen 1913 KW coil boxes over the years.

Post Reply Previous topicNext topic