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Any metal workers out there

Post by Mark Osterman » Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:27 pm

So, I’ve been told I should make the coil contacts for my hand cranked coil tester from phosphor bronze rather than use the contacts found in the standard Ford coil box. Well finding a small strip of that stuff isn’t so easy. Is there anyone out there who can tell me where I can buy a strip about 5/8” wide x 6” long x .030” thick? Or does anyone has some to spare?

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Re: Any metal workers out there

Post by Henry K. Lee » Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:44 pm

Mark,


Check out Online Metals.

All the Best,

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Post by Mark Osterman » Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:57 pm

Yes, I looked there, but the smallest piece is 12”x12” for $50 plus shipping. I’m hoping to find someone who has the small scrap I need left over from their project.

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Post by RajoRacer » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:13 pm

I used to have a good sized piece of that somewhere - knew where it was until we retired & relocated 4 years ago - I'll look around.

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Re: Any metal workers out there

Post by Corey Walker » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:27 pm

Aren’t the contacts in the original Ford coil boxes made from phosphor bronze? I know the repop ones are copper plated steel and loose their springiness.
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Post by DanTreace » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:33 pm

True, good used originals are phosphorous bronze, and Lang's sells exact reproductions in the exact material, bronze.

p/n 50001BCONBQ is the '26-'27 non staggered versions, with lower strip. Excellent quality. Have used many.
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Post by Mark Osterman » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:37 pm

That’s what I thought and I have a box full of original contacts but Ron suggested I don’t use those. He said that the early testers made by Ford used them and that they corrode easily.

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Post by Mark Nunn » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:41 pm

Goodfellow.com sells small quantities of metals and other materials. They have phosphor bronze sheets. I don't know about costs.


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Post by Scott_Conger » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:57 pm

I cannot imagine they will corrode quicker on your tester than they did in the car for 90 years.
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Post by Mark Osterman » Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:08 pm

Hmm ... yeah, that’s what I thought. Maybe I’ll just use them. Easy to replace.

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Re: Any metal workers out there

Post by TRDxB2 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:54 am

Did an internet search - results
Phosphor bronze is an alloy of copper with 0.5–11% of tin and 0.01–0.35% phosphorus. The tin increases the corrosion resistance and strength of the alloy. The phosphorus increases the wear resistance and stiffness of the alloy.
Give the results I found went directly to K&S Engineering site . They only have the two sizes below http://www.ksmetals.com/30.html

K&S Precision Metals 16053 Phosphor Bronze Sheet Metal Rack, 0.008" Thickness x 6" Width x 12" Length, $7.39 plus shipping. Don't know what size you need.
https://www.amazon.com/Precision-Metals ... 7593&psc=1

Phos Bronze .006" thick 5" x 7" Sheet of Bronze from K&S Engineering. $3.76 + shipping
http://www.hobbylinc.com/k-s-phos-bronz ... gI0p_D_BwE
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Re: Any metal workers out there

Post by Ron Patterson » Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:04 am

Just to set the record straight!
I DID NOT tell anyone "the early (HCCT) testers made by Ford used them and that they corrode easily"
I simply explained, that original Ford coil box contacts were not designed for that type of service and would not stand up to the constant insertion and removal of coils in a HCCT.
I have restored over 75 HCCT's and when found Ford coil box contact are usually badly damaged. Many HCCT's (Allen Electric, Service Products) used very well made coil test box contacts that would survive that kind of service. I recommend fabricating new coil test box contacts from Phosphor Bronze sheet material when restoring a HCCT.


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Post by Mark Osterman » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:28 am

My mistake Ron. I misunderstood your message. I assumed you meant that the contacts were corroded on the Ford manufactured coil testers that used that type of contact. I said “early” Ford units because I thought they were largely superseded by other makers after awhile. You actually said “damaged.” Now I see you were probably implying that they get bent or broken. Sorry ... this is where reading something in an email that can be interpreted different ways is not as accurate as a conversation.


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Post by Mark Osterman » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:38 am

Hey Frank, Thanks for the sites that sell phosphor bronze .. but that material is way too thin for making the kind of contact I need for this application. I was hoping there might be someone here who has some scraps of what I would need for making these contacts.


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Re: Any metal workers out there

Post by Original Smith » Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:44 am

Check with Ron Patterson. He's had more coil testers than anyone on earth!


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Re: Any metal workers out there

Post by keen25 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:50 am

Hi Ron,
Do you sell repair kits for the HCCT?
Thank you,
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