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Re: Here I go again .... to OCF

Post by Scott C. » Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:09 am

Steve, How is our road side front end repair holding up?

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Post by Steve Jelf » Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:15 am

How is our road side front end repair holding up?
So far so good. The Michigan roads haven't shaken it apart yet.


I arrived in Wayne and stopped to see Jason and family about 5 PM Wednesday, then went a little farther and stayed in Taylor. Yesterday morning I took a little time to tighten a loose screw holding the phone charger on front of the seat. It's mounted where there was an original screw, so no new holes were drilled. I stopped at a hardware store and bought an aluminum funnel, as most plastic eventually will become brittle and break. It will ride in the engine compartment on the left side, under the steering shaft, saving me the hassle of uncovering the trunk to dig it out when I need it for gas or oil. Next I went to The Henry Ford for guidance about my OCF packet, which will be waiting for me at home because I had to hit the road before it arrived. No problem. I just need to be at check-in this afternoon at four to get a replacement.

Next I drove up to Chesterfield Township for the cruise-in at the Stahl Museum where Seamus works. Like Auburn, I have to say Wow! It's not as big a collection as ACD or Gilmore, but it's an all-star gathering of legendary automotive names, some rarely seen and a few you may have seen only in books. I took lots of pictures, of course, and I'll post some of them later. I need to get going to Piquette, so I'll only take time for a single photo now.


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What an admirable young man. Seamus is not only a swell guy, but he can belt out a tune on the Stahl's mighty Wurlitzer.


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Post by Steve Jelf » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:18 am

OK, time to catch up a little. After the Thursday evening visit to Stahl's I stayed with Seamus in Mount Clemens to avoid driving fifty miles at night. It was about twelve miles down to his place, and I led the way in case my car had a problem. My 1915 was running so well at that point that his 1914 had trouble keeping up a couple of times. I thought changing a spark plug had solved the rough running, and was delighted. But in the morning starting up was major work and driving was an ordeal of sputtering and low power all the way down Gratiot Avenue into Detroit. The forecast was for a cloudy day, but it was a pretty soggy reentry into the city. The rain started to let up as I drove up Grand Avenue and I was able to see the sad sight of the Packard plant looking even more derelict than last year. The rain was about over when I arrived at Piquette, so I lifted the hood and replaced all the plugs with a set of Splitdorfs. That improved the car's running on a test drive up the block and back, but it still wasn't 100% normal. I let it go at that for the time being while I meditated on what else to try.

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I blame Michigan roads for this. It was broken once before, and all the bouncing and shocks have undone the repair. Something else to fix when I get home.

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This is the view of Piquette most often seen.

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But nobody takes pictures of this side, so I did.

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Dave Hjortnaes arrived in his 1920 touring from Wisconsin about the same time I arrived from Kansas in my 1915 runabout.

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After taking the Piquette tour I drove to The Henry Ford for OCF registration, then on to Jason's in Wayne. I observed this uniquely customized vehicle on Michigan Avenue.

It's after eleven, so I'll continue this later.
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Post by George N Lake Ozark » Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:21 am

Thank from the report Steve. Did you get your coils checked/adjusted ?? Did you try a smaller gap for your higher compression ??

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Post by Steve Jelf » Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:05 am

Yes, I took the coils to the Henry Ford Model T shop for adjusting and a point replacement. One of them has a bad capacitor, which left me with no spare, so one of the guys at OCF gave me one. I've always resisted buying a tester because I didn't think I'd use it enough to justify the expense, but now I'm thinking it will be on my shopping list for this winter. I have a bunch of coils in my shop I should recondition. After coil adjustment and another check of timing, the car was almost back to normal, close enough for me not to worry about it until I get home. Coming back to Wayne last night, a distance of about six miles, the car ran very well. With the new timer I do have to keep an eye on the spark lever. If I don't it creeps up.
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Post by George N Lake Ozark » Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:02 pm

New timer!?!? You wore the old one out ??? What kind did you get this time around ?


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Post by Burger in Spokane » Sun Sep 08, 2019 3:12 pm

I guess I need to read slower and more carefully ....

I thought you were asking Steve if he had a new tumor ..... :shock:

I suppose it is a good idea to keep one's tumors in adjustment too ....
More people are doing it today than ever before !

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Post by George N Lake Ozark » Sun Sep 08, 2019 3:54 pm

Burger. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by Steve Jelf » Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:13 pm

New timer!?!? You wore the old one out ???

No, I just put in a spare New Day, like new, to see if the timer was causing the troubles. It wasn't.
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Post by Dallas Landers » Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:27 pm

So, the oldtimer put in a new, new day timer? This is cornfusing! :lol:

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Post by Oldav8tor » Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:26 pm

Is the spring in the New Day brush holding the brass brush out all the way? The pin should be all the way at the top of the slot. Don't ask me how I know this :lol:
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Post by Steve Jelf » Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:30 pm

Today's exciting episode is yesterday. Saturday was full of cruising, rides, good music, and seeing a lot of swell cars, and ended as usual with the parade of lights.

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Peter McIntyre bought this 1912 McIntyre touring because it had his name on it. It took him several years to even find out what year it really was, and it turned out to be the only surviving 1912 McIntyre. That called for a lot of fabrication, some of it involving a full 4' x 8' sheet of brass.

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I took the same picture last year, but this time the lighting was better. If I keep trying I may get it in sunshine.

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Post by Steve Jelf » Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:31 pm

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1910 Rambler 54

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Post by Steve Jelf » Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:33 pm

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1910 Mitchell touring: "The Car You Want"

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John Remmers held forth with some good ragtime.

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Kyle, Dallas, Jason, and Joe with the Landers Special TT.

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"It was this big, but it got away."

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Post by Steve Jelf » Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:33 pm

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The boys went for rides both days.
Mom says she and Dad have been talking about a T.


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Twilight time.

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My mag lights are definitely not as bright as they look in the picture.

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Joe, Jason, and Michael watching the cars go by.

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That's not just class. That's clahss.

That's it for this evening, folks. I'll get to Sunday's report tomorrow, including a couple of guest photos.
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Re: Here I go again .... to OCF

Post by Adam » Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:45 pm

Steve, If you are using a New Day timer and the spark advance lever wants to creep up on its own, the likely cause is that the brush holder is too far forward and is dragging inside the timer case. This would also likely create an apparent ignition problem. This is caused by an incorrectly placed cam, or an incorrect thickness timing gear (generally the fibre ones). If this is the case, the brush holder must be modified to sit further back on the cam.

The other possibility is that you have no tension on your timer case spring.

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Post by Steve Jelf » Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:58 pm

Hmmm... Definitely not a fiber gear. McEachern aluminum. Also not a loose cover spring. It's good and tight. That leaves the long brush holder theory. Since the coil adjustments the car is running well, so I'll let sleeping dogs lie and look into a shorter holder when I get home.
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Post by Adam » Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:16 pm

If it is the brush holder dragging inside the case, it may become a larger running problem in short order. Way before you get home. These things usually have a tendency to happen on a busy road, in the rain, shortly before dark & miles from camp.

If you do have an issue, the easiest temporary remedy without any special tools would be switching to a roller style timer. The roller will not be riding centered on the track, but it works and the roller won’t interfere with the case.

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Post by Oldav8tor » Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:33 pm

I had a "missing" problem that stumped a lot of people and took awhile to figure out. The engine started and idled great but stumbled when you tried to go down the road. Turns out the spring in a brand new timer brush was partially collapsed so it wouldn't push the brass brush out to make a good contact. It ran, just not great. I was too much a newbie to know what proper spring function should look like when I installed the brush in the first place. I replaced the brush and it's run without a miss since (a few hundred miles). The attached pix shows the bad brush on the left, the one that replaced it on the right. It's simple to check the brush...just lift off the cap, tap the end of the brass brush a couple of times and look at the position where the pin comes to rest in the slot.
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Post by wayne sheldon » Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:25 am

Ah, Photos of the OCF! Thank You!

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Post by Kaiser » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:33 am

Mr. Jelf thanks for the great pictures and story, I may have found a worthwhile acessory for your T on these longer trips you're making :lol:
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Steve, Thank You for posting your great pictures AND for identifying cars and people when you can. Jeff P.
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Post by Atomic Amish » Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:35 am

I can tell you, without a doubt, you made 3 boy's days this weekend.

And a dad's too. ;)

Thanks for coming, and sharing your adventure with us all.
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Post by George N Lake Ozark » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:12 pm

So where ya headed now Steve ??

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Post by REHelgeson » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:05 am

Anyone heard from Steve? Seems unusual he hasn't posted in a couple of days.


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Post by Dallas Landers » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:38 am

Maybe the Walmart police got him ?

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Post by Charlie B in N.J. » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:58 pm

Even for 1910 that Sears car really looks like it should be horse drawn.
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Post by George N Lake Ozark » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:22 pm

Maybe McDs is wised up to his WiFi use and has given him the Bums Rush ??

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Post by WayneJ » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:23 pm

Steve posted this AM on the younger member thread, so he is alive and well.
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Post by Steve Jelf » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:20 pm

Nope, no company cops this time. I'm in South Bend and taking some time to catch up on computer chores. Some of the pictures will show why I'm late. But first, here's Sunday.

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Deane meets Dean. Deane Glover thought he was quite a traveler until he met Dean Yoder.

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Hold it! Brent and Nancy Mize get their picture taken.

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The famous 1927 cutaway engine.

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And the famous fifteen millionth Model T. I would think this is one of the most photographed cars there are.

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I missed Taslimah Bey last year, so getting to hear her this time was a double treat.
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Mom and the kids dance to ragtime while Dad listens.

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Ms Bey was studying classical music when she discovered and fell in love with ragtime. She plays with skill, beauty, and passion that make the music infectious.


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After Labor Day? Oh dear!

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The downtown village cops have a lot of traffic to direct.

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1911 Packard "18"

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Wearing spiffy duds in a spiffy 1908 Jackson.

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A uniquely customized 1910 Ford?

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Alphabet Fords. 1906 Model F and 1906 Model N.

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"Rob's other old Ford": 1905 Model F. Oh, and a Stanley.

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1918 Dodge Brothers touring

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Twin-six experimental racer built by Packard in 1916.

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1927 Dodge Brothers speedster


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1926 Ford T

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The Canadian assembly team puts a chassis together for the folks.

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Post by Steve Jelf » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:27 pm

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One of the three replica quadricycles.

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Watering the beast: one of Henry's early racers.

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The view seen by the competition.

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It has a BIG chain drive.

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The Mattox family home is older, but is restored to its Depression-era appearance.

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Rev Robert Jones sings the southern blues with his steel-bodied guitar.

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Watching the Fords go by.

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Apparently the kids took all the books home to do their homework.

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Jeron lends a hand.

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Jeron took me for a ride in the speedster he's had for just a week and a half.

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The Duesy was voted most popular.

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Heading back to Indiana. I hope there's enough adjustment left to stop this windshield from flopping back at every dip, gust of headwind, or passing big truck.

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Camelback bridge built in 1922 and retired in 1990. It replaced an earlier bridge built in 1867. This style was widely used in Michigan and Ontario.

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The stone abutments of the earlier bridge are still visible upstream.

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This is the unscheduled stop that made me late in reporting. Last year's trip was 2870 miles, and this year's is probably about 1200 so far, and this is the first tire trouble I've run into on those trips.

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First to stop and offer assistance was this young man who used the pump for awhile. It seemed like just the answer at first, but it never went over about 40 psi. I phoned Hagerty for roadside assistance and found that the insurance doesn't cover that. You have to be in their "Club" for that.

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Fortunately more help arrived. Cleophus White had a compressor that he bought from a TV ad. He said it works fine for mower tires, but it doesn't have enough guts to blow up clincher tires. Then came Jason Dull, who lives just a mile down the road. He had the solution: an air tank carrying 100 psi. That got me back on the road.

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The tire delay got me into Mishawaka just before sundown. Incredibly, the huge Walmart super center has no auto shop. So tube repair would have to wait. I wasn't about to wander around a strange town at night looking for wi-fi, so I dined by flashlight and retired.
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When morning gilds the skies. The tarp is on the car because a surprise shower put me inside. It turned out that there was no more rain after that brief shower

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The old wheel-off-the-ground trick helps to get started in the morning.

So here I am at a McD in South Bend, catching up at a little after 3:30 PM eastern. After this I'll go looking for tube repair. And when I get home I'll look for a portable compressor that works for clinchers.
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Post by Dallas Landers » Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:09 pm

I hope Brent's car is ok. I saw the big white Cole car back into him trying to make a turn. He hit the tire pretty hard. Then had the nerve to flip Brent the bird as he took off. We were all yelling stop but he hit him anyway. What a nice roadster Brent has!


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Post by mtntee20 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:37 pm

Mr. Jelf and All,

Funny how the Universe works. Steve needs a tire pump and this video has just been posted.

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I really like this guy. He does a great job of Real World testing of many different relevant things. This one just happens to be tire pumps. Also, he is NOT sponsored by nor does he accept ANY commercial contributions of any kind. So there are no ulterior motives.

Good Luck and Thank You Steve for all you have done for US,
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Post by Steve Jelf » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:10 pm

All twelve volts. Not the answer. I'll investigate spark plug air pumps.
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Post by Steve Jelf » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:39 pm

No pictures, just a brief report on the afternoon. I took my leaky tube first to a Walmart auto shop. "We don't do tubes." So I asked where there was a real tire shop. They directed me to Belle Tire, across the street. "Nobody does tubes anymore." I wasn't about to swallow that particular brand of baloney, so I went to a third shop on the west side of town. I left the tube and will pick it up in the morning.

Questions today were mostly the usual. How fast? How long have you had it? Did you drive it here? Four people called it a truck, and one asked, out of the blue, "Is it a '53?" Why '53? I have no clue.
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Post by George N Lake Ozark » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:30 pm

Thanks Steve everyone was getting concerned. Best of luck on your tube in the tubeless era.


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Post by Scott C. » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:29 am

I guess the lesson learned here is, carry with you everything you need to repair a tube!!

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Post by VowellArt » Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:42 am

For crying out loud Steve, go to Harbor Freight and buy their tube repair kit, it costs about 3 bucks, but then you have it if you ever need it again...
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Are there new messages to read? I don’t see them even though this thread keeps coming to the top.

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Post by Steve Jelf » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:53 am

I have a repair kit, Mart. I patched the thing twice and it failed twice. That's why I wanted to take it to a shop and have it patched properly.
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Mark Osterman wrote:
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Yes, look in the lower right and click on the blue "2."

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Post by mike zahorik » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:50 am

Steve, try a bicycle shop. They should be able to patch a tube. Mike


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Post by Adam » Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:47 am

There were some tubes several years ago that were made out of a material that would not bond to a standard patch.

Might need to call Snyders or Universal and have a tube FedEx’d.


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Post by 25 roadster john » Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:51 am

Last year Steve had a major engine problem and was towed to a shop that fixed him up well enough to get home. Can't believe a tire tube is going to stop him on this journey. No one in the area that could part with a new or good used tube? Great public service for Synders or Langs to overnight one. Must be something wrong with what ever material was used to make that tube.


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Great pictures, Steve. Thanks! One small correction, that isn’t Nancy Mize in your picture, but just one of the many dozens of lucky people that Brent drives around all weekend at the OCF. Here Is a picture of the real nurse Nancy, along with the Coil Doctor.
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Post by Steve Jelf » Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:43 pm

Thanks,Tim. Never having met the Mrs. in person, I assumed.

The tube thing ended as follows: This morning after breakfast I returned to Best One, a real tire shop, and picked up my repaired tube. The vulcanized patch looks excellent. The charge was gratis. You can't beat that. On my way to the museum I stopped at Belle Tire and told the front desk guys that it's OK to say 'We don't do tubes." But it's NOT OK to say "Nobody does tubes anymore." In the little town of only 12,000 people just three miles from where I live there are two tire shops that sell and repair tubes, so being fed the line of baloney that nobody does it anymore made me mad. If I lived in South Bend, Best One would get my business, both tube and tubeless.

I took pictures at the Studebaker Museum, but I don't feel like a full editing session this evening, so I'll get to those photos later. My summary of the museum: a lot of great cars badly displayed. Under a low black ceiling the lighting overall is dim, punctuated by spotlights, giving a very uneven effect, I was struck by the particularly inept display of an impressive Avanti. A spotlight glared down on the car, and the shadow cast by the open hood put the engine, the major point of an Avanti, in the dark.

Despite the bad lighting and the obtrusive barrier ribbons around the cars, I'm glad I went and saw the fine collection. The cars you would expect are there, plus some unique artifacts you won't see anywhere else. Studebaker being a wagon and carriage builder first and an auto maker second, it was interesting to see some of the pre-car items, including several presidential carriages.

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Breakfast at sunup.

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The CN provides some rolling entertainment. Following IN 2 across western Indiana had its challenges. One was a detour at La Porte which went south, to avoid bridge construction I was told, and had the classic feature of detour signs which peter out and leave you wondering if you're still on the right road. On another long stretch south of Valparaiso there were absolutely no signs to confirm that I was really on IN 2 as I thought. After several miles with no signs I stopped at a store just to ask if I was where I thought I was.

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By the Kankakee River at Momence. Bad wind gusts prompted me to put the top down so it wouldn't get any more damaged than it already is. I couldn't even wear my hat. I had to just slather on the sunscreen and ride in the open. When I crossed the state line there was no place to pull off for a picture of the sign, so you'll just have to take my word for it that I'm in Illinois.
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Post by wayne sheldon » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:07 am

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Breakfast at sun up is a fine, calendar worthy, photo.
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Post by fschrope » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:33 am

Steve - you mention Best One Tire.

Best One Tire is the "New" name for Zurcher Tire in Monroe, IN. Paul Zurcher started this in about 1948 after returning from WW2 with his brother-in-law Weldon ??? It grew into one of the largest tire businesses in the US. I think it was 2006 that they were "dealer of the year" of some sort doing $645,000,000 as far south as Florida.
So much for being big.

I started doing business with Paul Zurcher in 1972. He would personally take care of me just the same as he would the big guys. I saw him at a Taylor University program of some sort and he remembered me.
Bottom line - he was a fantastic guy. I can't say enough good about him. He was a class act in every respect.
I would go to the Monroe store to buy most of my tires as you could just walk in and they had the tires in stock and you didn't need an appointment. I'm sure you could have walked in at 5:55 PM and still gotten a full set of tires even though they closed at 6 PM. Paul was still going to work every day even at age 90.

He died in 2015 from complications of some sort of surgery. I miss him, but will still drive to Monroe to get my tires. His sons are running the store now I'm told.

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Post by Steve Jelf » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:29 pm

Whew! Am I beat! I feel like I've been rode hard and put away wet. Just sitting in the car and driving doesn't usually take much out of me, but I think being in the sun all day did it. The wind bounced my hat around and flopped it down on my glasses, hurting my nose, so i finally just gave it up and slathered on plenty of sun block. It seems the rest of this trip will be with the top down unless I hit rain, because of the broken top socket. The gusts of headwinds and the whump, whump, whump of oncoming trucks as they pass have spread the breakage from the top socket to the windshield.

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Before starting today's drive I'll show the handy little doodad I picked up at Walmart. It's a little LED light with an elastic strap to hold it on your head. Wherever you turn your head to look, you have light. The price was $1.

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By daylight I was able to see that the top constantly pulling back had moved the windshield frame enough to crack the glass.

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Again, one wheel off the ground gets us going in the morning.

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Stopping by corn on a sunny morning. The can tells you why. Should have filled up before starting this morning.

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A closer look shows that the frame isn't just bent. It's broken just inside the bracket. The rust shows that it's been going for awhile and the recent strain finished the breakage.
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Less than an hour down the road it looks worse.

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It's time to put the official Ford repair kit to work.

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The top end goes through the hinge...

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...and the bottom end attaches to the fender bracket.

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For the rest of the day this brace kept it from getting any worse.
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Today's drive gathered a new collection of road kill.

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Arriving in Springfield I find that a two block stretch of Eighth Street has changed since I saw it almost forty years ago. It's gone back to the nineteenth century.

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The curbs are oak planks.

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A lot of Lincoln's campaign centered on his humble beginnings and being born in a log cabin, and this wagon was used at political rallies.

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The Lincoln home at Eighth and Jackson.
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John Rogers was a tremendously prolific and wildly popular Chicago sculptor. Plaster copies of his work were priced to be affordable for middle class buyers, and somewhere between 80,000 and 100,000 were sold. This one shows General Grant and Secretary of War Stanton with the president.

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Great Republican rally at Lincoln's home, August 8, 1860.

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Bleeding Kansas had not yet been admitted as a state.

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In the Lincoln sitting room.

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Lincoln's bed. It's about an inch longer than he was.
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Mantel and stove in Lincoln's bedroom. It's hard to believe that little stove could heat the room.

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Two other Whig politicians, Clay and Webster, look down on Lincoln's bedroom.

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Mary Lincoln's bedroom.

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Fitting the kitchen into one picture takes a photostitch of three shots.

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Mr.Lincoln's favorite desert was his wife's almond cake.
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Some of the neighbors were of modest means and some were very well off. I think this house is three times the size of the Lincoln home. There's a lot of house behind this modest front.

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These houses from Lincoln's time still stand, but vacant spaces show that several of the neighboring houses are gone.


So ends another day on the road. Apparently the experience is not making me hyper-tense. This evening the test machine said my BP was 74/56. Not too bad for a person of the elderly persuasion.
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So much history to see, and appreciate.


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Post by wayne sheldon » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:04 am

Oh, and you are making me worry a little. My '15's windshield had been very badly repaired from rust-out years before I got it. I had to do a bunch of cutting, patching, splicing and brazing to make it look like it might hold up! Maybe in a few years I will be wiring a windshield forward?


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Post by Dropacent » Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:30 am

Steve, That blood pressure reading is far from normal, and very concerning, at least to me. Normal is 120/80, and lower like that doesn’t mean better, far from it. If you are feeling weak and different in any way, you ought to pop in to a clinic along the way. You need your wits about you to navigate your adventure, and we all want you to be safe. Please consider this.

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Post by cudaman » Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:19 am

If the machine was right, and with a BP reading that low, Steve would be fainting every time he tried to sit or stand up!

I suspect that the machine was out of calibration or otherwise malfunctioning. :)
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Post by DLodge » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:50 am

Steve, in 1972, I brought Anja to the US to meet my parents. One of the side trips we made while we were here was to Springfield to see the Lincoln home. One thing that struck me at the time was that the guide who conducted the tour consistently spoke of Lincoln in the present tense. I remember, for example, "Mr. Lincoln's a Republican, you know." I half expected to see him walk through the door. :D


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Post by DHort » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:02 am

Glad to hear you are making your way home. I too am concerned with that BP reading. In the mean time make sure you are well hydrated and do not cut out the salt. I plan to drive modern iron next year but if need be, I will drive south to meet you and then follow you to OCF. Safe travels.


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Post by cwlittle » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:31 am

Before anyone gets concerned about a low blood pressure reading it's always prudent to know a few things. What is the patient's usual reading? Are they having any symptoms, e.g. dizziness, weakness, chest pain, shortness of breath, etc. Is this the same bp machine they usually use: or is it a different one and perhaps inaccurate? And if the reading seems abnormal with the machine--repeat it 2 or 3 times to see if the readings are consistent.

I used to work in an emergency department, and would occasionally see asymptomatic patients who would get a single abnormal reading on their home bp machine, or a "screening'" site and come to the ED all worried, where we could not obtain similar results.
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Post by Steve Jelf » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:20 pm

Normal is 120/80, and lower like that doesn’t mean better, far from it.

No, a diastolic pressure of 80-89 is first stage hypertension. You can look it up. Normal readings for me have always been in the range of 90-115/60-75. I suspect last night's unusually low reading had something to do with hours of sitting in the sun without a hat, or maybe a misreading by the machine. I'll check it two or three times today and see what I get. As for salt, I've always used plenty and it hasn't seemed to influence my BP so far. Anyway, I'm in fine fettle this morning, whatever that is. :)


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Post by Dallas Landers » Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:58 pm

Today salt is good for you as are eggs. Tomorrow we will see? Yesterday they were not!

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Post by REHelgeson » Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:54 pm

Steve, looks like you stayed at the Walmart south of Kankakee. Wish I had known. I live about 5 miles west of Town. We could have met up. Also I have two lower windshield frames. I would have given you one. Happy trails my friend.


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Post by Marshall V. Daut » Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:30 pm

Richard G. wrote: "In reading of Steve's adventures brings to mind two guys backed a model a ford from New York to California , as I remember it was a roadster and it took place perhaps sixty years ago, any one remember that? talk about cramped necks."

You are right. There was a story about that trip in a mid-1960's issue of "The Restorer" (MAFCA's club magazine). I have that issue in my library of several hundred MAFCA and MARC magazines. The trouble is - FINDING which magazine! As I recall from reading the article decades ago, it was a publicity stunt to bring attention to the new 1928 Model A, which had recently been introduced. I think the roadster had a map of the USA painted on the side to show the route the car was taking cross-country. Two guys drove the roadster backwards to California from New York. The car had the ring gear swapped to the opposite side of the rear end so that the car had three speeds backwards and one forward. (Some guys have achieved that without even trying, both in Model A's and T's! Ha, ha, ha!) )At least, that's how I remember the article reading.
To publicize an upcoming MAFCA convention in the year the magazine issue appeared, two club members from the hosting chapter duplicated the feat in a restored 1931 Deluxe Roadster, which they drove from California to New York. For some odd reason I even remember the name of one of the drivers: Bill Dell. Lots of press coverage for that stunt, too.
If anyone is truly interested in reading the original article, I'll wade through 10 stacks x three feet high of back issues and try to find the article.
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Post by perry kete » Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:28 pm

Steve,


THANK YOU for posting your adventures. I read them all but seldom comment. Someday I would love to join you in your travels but as for now I follow you on the forum and wish I was with you. Safe travels and keep posting the great pictures.

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Post by Steve Jelf » Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:38 am

Today began with a couple of car repairs, one planned and one not. The unplanned repair came after I dumped an unusual amount of water in the radiator and it leaked out on the ground. The reason wasn't hard to find.

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The plug was still there, but hanging by a little bit of sealant. I hope I didn't do a lot of driving without coolant. I don't know when the leak happened.

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I boogered up the bison a bit pounding in the plug, but as of this evening it's still holding.

The other morning repair was a bit of rod bending. I've been getting an occasional kickback lately, so I needed a timer adjustment.



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Today I was back in the Lincoln neighborhood to see some things I didn't get to yesterday. This view of the house is from the spot where the most photos of it have been taken.

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Nine of the photos I'm posting this evening are composites of two, three, or four shots photostitched together. This one shows he Lincolns' parlor.

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Guest bedroom. Bob Lincoln stayed here when visiting home from Harvard because Willie and Tad had taken over his room.
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About five percent of the furnishings in the house are items actually owned by the Lincolns. This writing desk is one of the five percent.

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Another item in the five percent: Mary Lincoln's stove. Her aristocratic family did not raise her to be a cook, but she became a good one.

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It's said that an outhouse is good for forty years before it needs to be moved, but I would think that varies according to how many people use it.

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After the Lincoln house I walked a few blocks to the old capitol used from 1839 to 1876. The exterior is showing its age, but inside it's beautiful.

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The capitol library.
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We end today's tour with the new capitol still in use today. Tomorrow: New Salem.


After yesterday's BP discussion I tested two more times today. Both readings (on the same machine) were considerably higher. In the morning I got 121/76. The diastolic is OK, but I don't care for the systolic. This evening's was better, 118/75. That's good for both numbers.
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Supreme Court chamber.


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Fun and games between sessions.

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Under the dome, second floor.

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Senate chamber.

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Lincoln and Herndon had their law offices in this corner building across Adams Street from the Capitol.
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Post by Scott C. » Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:48 am

Steve, those numbers do look much better!!

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Post by Steve Jelf » Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:56 am

Obviously that picture of the new capitol should come last. I tried to fix the sequence but can't.
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Post by wayne sheldon » Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:59 am

I had noticed the BP numbers, but figured Steve knew his normal. My dad used to get annoyed when he had routine checkups. Gone are the days when doctors KNEW their patients. My dad had unusually low blood pressure for years. He would go in for his appointment, the staff would take his pressure and begin to freak out! They would take it again, and again. The whole time my dad is telling them to look at his records! They're getting ready to call for an ambulance and he is telling them to check his records! His numbers MIGHT reach a hundred over sixty something.

On the other hand. My wife has slightly high numbers normally (considerably higher than mine!). They are being treated, but still high. A few years back she almost died from an internal bleeding problem she wasn't being honest with me about. I got her emergency care in time. The EMT said her pressure at that time was 79 over 48!

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Post by WayneJ » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:46 pm

The National Park Service publishes a recipe for Mary Lincoln's Almond Cake:

Mary Todd Lincoln's White Cake
(Recipe from Lincoln's Table by Donna D. McCreary was adapted by Janice Cooke Newman)

1 cup blanched almonds, chopped in a food processor until they resemble a coarse flour
1 cup butter
2 cups sugar
3 cups flour
3 teaspoons baking powder
1 cup milk
6 egg whites
1 teaspoon vanilla extract
confectionary sugar
•Preheat oven to 350 degrees. Grease and flour a Bundt cake pan.
• Cream butter and sugar. Sift flour and baking powder 3 times. Add to creamed butter and sugar, alternating with milk. Stir in almonds and beat well.
•Beat egg whites until stiff and fold into the batter. Stir in vanilla extract.
•Pour into prepared pan and bake for 1 hour, or until a toothpick inserted comes out clean. Turn out on a wire rack and cool. When cool, sift confectionary sugar over top

A basic white frosting sprinkled with almonds was also popular.
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Post by Steve Jelf » Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:29 am

1 cup blanched almonds, chopped in a food processor until they resemble a coarse flour

What brand of food processor did Mary Lincoln use?

OK. it's time to quit being silly and get on with today's report. First up was a stop at Oak Ridge Cemetery to bid adieu to the late Mr. Lincoln.


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The monument is granite on the outside and marble on the inside.

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The Lincolns and all four of their boys are buried here. I didn't see any information about where Bob Lincoln's wife is buried.

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Circuit riding lawyer.

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Lincoln statuary abounds in these parts. To my inexpert eye much of it is excellent. Lincoln must be one of the most sculpted people who ever lived.

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Much like the memorial in Washington.
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Our next stop is at the little village of New Salem, where young Abe Lincoln arrived in his early twenties. Here he was a storekeeper, postmaster, and was elected captain of his volunteer unit in the Black Hawk War.


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The Miller/Kelso home is a dog trot house, really two houses sharing the same roof, occupied by Joshua Miller and his brother-in-law Jack Kelso and their families.

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The garden was an important source of food in pioneer life. After a winter of salt pork and other preserved sustenance, the spring arrival of fresh vegetables was for many an occasion for joy and delight.

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The home of hatter Martin Waddell. He sold rabbit fur hats for 50¢ and coonskin hats for $2.
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Like many frontier communities, New Salem wasn't big enough to have streets. There was just one road, with houses and other buildings along both sides.

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Dr. John Allen, born in Vermont in 1801, came to New Salem in 1831 and became a prominent citizen in the community.


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Dr. Allen's home may be very modest to modern eyes, but on the frontier it was more posh than most.

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Rutledge Tavern. By law rates were fixed at 371/2¢ per day for a meal and overnight stay.

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Samuel Hill residence. Born in New Jersey in 1800, Hill came to New Salem in 1829 and was a store owner and established a carding mill. By 1840, like other New Salem residents, he had moved to Petersburg.
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Hill's carding mill.

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The mill was powered by two oxen walking on a large wheel.

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Carding machinery.

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Conestoga wagon. The bed slopes down from both ends to the center to stabilize cargo.

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The bed is 40" wide and 101/2' long.
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Old US 36 headed west. This is becoming a familiar road. I've been over it twice going east and once, today, going west. Like many former US highways, most of its traffic has moved to the nearby interstate.


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Normally I keep my 104-year-old car off interstates. But when the interstate is the only game in town, what do you do?


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Call the cops. This officer followed me across the bridge with his lights flashing to make me less of a target.


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Steering wheel moon. I arrived in Hannibal about 6:30 and dined off the running board as usual, then came to the golden arches for the wi-fi. For a moment I thought I had found the only McDonalds east of the Mississippi that's heard of diet Dr. Pepper. Then I remembered. Hannibal is on the west side of the river. :)
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Post by wayne sheldon » Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:18 am

You take and share the most wonderful photos of historic sites I think than I have ever seen. Places not often thought of or easily stumbled onto on the interweb. I enjoy seeing these things, and your comments of the who and where of them. You have a remarkable eye for history.
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Post by DLodge » Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:13 am

Brings back memories, Steve. When I was in the 8th grade, my class was put on a bus and taken to Springfield and New Salem. I doubt we appreciated it as much as we would have later.

This is the grave of my 3xgreat-grandfather, James Walker, in a cemetery in Scott County that you passed on your way to Dearborn and probably on the way back.
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Consistent with my apparent effort to avoid having any important or famous ancestors, he was a Private in the Black Hawk War. Although he didn't serve under Lincoln, I have sometimes wondered if their paths crossed at any time.

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Post by Steve Jelf » Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:42 am

...he was a Private in the Black Hawk War.

I would guess that he was born before 1800.


A couple of notes on taking pictures of historical places:

Sometimes it's impossible to get far enough away from the subject to "get it all in". You can take two or more overlapping shots and use Photostitch or a similar program to combine them into one. The first view of New Salem, the interior of Dr. Allen's house, and the big wheel at the carding mill are all Photostitched.

A big part of pictures like this is to choose the best angle then wait for people to wander out of your way, and then quickly get your shot before somebody else wanders in.
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I would guess that he was born before 1800.
October 1788 in Kentucky. Very common in going through my ancestors in the 19th century to find them born in Virginia, Kentucky or Pennsylvania and dying in Illinois, Missouri or Arkansas. No one in the opposite direction (and no one made it to Kansas). They were pretty much all farmers so I assume decisions were largely based on available land.


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Post by otrcman » Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:11 pm

Steve,

Did you actually request a police car to escort you across the bridge, or did he just happen to come by in the nick of time ? I newer would have thought to make a request, but sounds like an excellent idea.

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Post by Steve Jelf » Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:20 pm

Did you actually request a police car to escort you across the bridge...

Yes, I did. I got on the phone and contacted the state police. They had an officer in the area, and I think it took less than fifteen minutes for him to arrive. He thought the old car was cool and seemed to enjoy the operation.

And now, today's report.


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The night passed without a drop of moisture, but the morning brought unexpected rain in Hannibal. It was never a downpour, just enough to get the streets wet and cause me to make a sliding stop at one point. I stopped to get a shot of the Marion County court house before leaving town.

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Heading west on MM in the rain.

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For several miles MM parallels the main highway, but eventually ends and you have to get on the big road. Fortunately by then it's not an interstate and the traffic is relatively light. Eventually the rain ended, the clouds broke up, and the day became sunny and hot. As I drove down US 24 out of Monroe City the car became increasingly gutless on hills.

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By the time I got to Madison the symptoms of fuel starvation had reached the point where I had doubts about getting to the next town, so I pulled off under a tree and set about an investigation of the carburetor. This is the first time I've used a Holley G, but I seemed to remember that proper float valve setting is not by measurement, but by removing the top plate and watching to see that the little pipe inside is sticking down into a puddle of gas at the bottom. If there ever was a valid setting by measurement, using the new float material instead of the original brass probably cancels it. While I was working on the carb some local guys stopped to see if they could help. When I finally got the carburetor back together and on the car, Billy Cullom (on the left in the picture) did some of the cranking while I waited at the spark lever in case the car actually started. Eventually we got it to start reasonably well and I headed for Moberly. The car still isn't exactly right, but it now cruises much better, even on hills.

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Arriving in Moberly about five, I ate and then did a rare thing. I seldom take a motel room, but even I have a grunge limit. So I am spending the night at the Super 8 (It costs more than $8 now) to clean up so folks two counties down the road won't smell me coming.
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As my dad was fond of saying “Yer lucky someone didn’t try tipping you over “


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11,000 views so far. That has to be a record. And we have not heard from Monday or Tuesday yet.

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Ground control to Major Jelf, come in Steve

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Post by Steve Jelf » Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:40 pm

Sorry, George. I hate text.

I am home. And pooped. Going to bed early. I'll tell you all about it later.
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Post by George N Lake Ozark » Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:49 pm

Ok Steve everyone was concerned with your welfare and carb problems. And glad you are safe.

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