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What am I looking at?

Post by RGould1910 » Sun Oct 06, 2019 7:07 pm

I understand why someone would use an earlier rear hub and re-drill for five studs to fit a 26-27 brake hub, but I don't understand why a ring was tack welded to the threaded area of the hub. I'd appreciate any observations or comments on this modification. It certainly makes for a difficult removal.
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Re: What am I looking at?

Post by RGould1910 » Sun Oct 06, 2019 7:10 pm

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Re: What am I looking at?

Post by Les Schubert » Sun Oct 06, 2019 7:17 pm

They should have added a ring to the outside of the flange area to properly support the wheel against the bolts. A wire wheel hub is bigger in diameter at the flange


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Re: What am I looking at?

Post by Ken Buhler » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:13 am

The hub is off something else.
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Re: What am I looking at?

Post by Burger in Spokane » Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:50 am

The Something Else was in production long before the Model T and is still in production
today. As a result, it could look like pretty much like anything else. Unless, of course, it
was Something Else Entirely, which might be completely different, or not. What ?
More people are doing it today than ever before !

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Re: What am I looking at?

Post by DanTreace » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:24 am

As Les posted, at least he put the sleeve over to increase the diameter of the hub to help secure it to a wire wheel. The T wire wheel has a tapered snout to provide lateral thrust when rounding corners. The front and rear T wire wheel hubs mate with the T wire wheel snout in that manner. 'Bout the only way to pull that modified rear hub now is with a knock off.

Note how much smaller the wood rear hub is compared to the T wire wheel rear hub.
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And inside view of the wood rear hub, and wire wheel rear hub, and the cone-shaped snout of the T wire wheel. Where the cone necks at its isthmus is where contact is made to the ring on the Ford wire wheel hub, provides the proper contact to keep strains off the lugs, when outboard loads are applied like cornering fast.
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Re: What am I looking at?

Post by RGould1910 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:59 am

Thanks for the information. So it looks as though I have two problems. First, the diameter of the flange, being smaller than a 26-27 hub, may not support the lugs. Second there is nothing to grab with a puller to remove the hubs from the axle. This explains why the axle nuts were not snugged down when I removed them. I'll install them to finish the restoration and have four wheels under the car and be on the lookout for a pair of good 26-27 hubs. Great information!
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Re: What am I looking at?

Post by RajoRacer » Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:12 pm

There's a nice set of rears on the for sale section just listed Richard.


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Re: What am I looking at?

Post by RGould1910 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:56 pm

Wow, thanks so much for the info. I just left a message with the seller telling him I want them!!!

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Re: What am I looking at?

Post by RajoRacer » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:55 pm

You are most welcome !


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Re: What am I looking at?

Post by Les Schubert » Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:28 pm

There should be a decent supply of really good rear hubs. I did a production run about 20 years ago

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