Interesting spark plug finds at Hershey

Discuss all things Model T related.
Forum rules
If you need help logging in, or have question about how something works, use the Support forum located here Support Forum
Complete set of Forum Rules Forum Rules

Topic author
Terry_007
Posts: 89
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:18 pm
First Name: Terry
Last Name: Bond
Location: Chesapeake VA
MTFCI Number: 15718

Interesting spark plug finds at Hershey

Post by Terry_007 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:54 pm

Hershey is always a treasure hunt for us spark plug collectors. I found a nice batch this year including some NOS plugs and insulators for the Ts.
Managed to find some NOS in the box Ford Script brass top Champion insulators as well as some of the early straight sided Chamption X insulators. They were quite reasonable too. I know a lot of you also collect plugs, even if it's on a small scale, but would like to see pics of what you managed to find in the market this year.
Terry
Attachments
IMG_5279.jpg
Hershey 2019 Plugs pic 2.jpg
Hershey 2019 Plugs pic 1.jpg


wayne sheldon
Posts: 1028
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:13 pm
First Name: Wayne
Last Name: Sheldon
Location: Grass Valley Califunny, USA
Board Member Since: 2005

Re: Interesting spark plug finds at Hershey

Post by wayne sheldon » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:08 pm

Some interesting stuff in there! Spark plugs have always been interesting, so many silly notions tried over the years, the artistic care in which they made them look so nice. Truly works of the era's art!

I won't ask how many you have now.

User avatar

Steve Jelf
Posts: 1604
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:37 pm
First Name: Steve
Last Name: Jelf
Location: Parkerfield, Kansas
MTFCA Number: 16175
MTFCI Number: 14758
Board Member Since: 2007
Contact:

Re: Interesting spark plug finds at Hershey

Post by Steve Jelf » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:29 pm

I have enough brass hats, so I passed on those, but I picked up nine straight-sided X cores (insulator with hardware), a few ribbed take-apart Xes, an Edison 14, another of the cream-colored Splitdorfs, a few short bases, a Monkey Ward's and a couple of Horseshoes. If I'm a plug collector, it's on a very small scale. My modest goal is to have full working sets of several brands. Currently I'm running a set of the cream Splitdorfs.

IMG_2522 copy.JPG
The inevitable often happens.
1915 Runabout
1923 Touring


John kuehn
Posts: 532
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:00 pm
First Name: John
Last Name: Kuehn
Location: Texas
MTFCA Number: 28924

Re: Interesting spark plug finds at Hershey

Post by John kuehn » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:28 am

Steve you mentioned of having a few working sets of plugs. Just wondering if you have a set of T Blue Crowns. I have 3 I’ve found and eventually maybe I can find another. They were pretty good plugs and and were in business for years making all kinds. The blue rings on them look really cool if you like that sort of thing.

User avatar

Steve Jelf
Posts: 1604
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:37 pm
First Name: Steve
Last Name: Jelf
Location: Parkerfield, Kansas
MTFCA Number: 16175
MTFCI Number: 14758
Board Member Since: 2007
Contact:

Re: Interesting spark plug finds at Hershey

Post by Steve Jelf » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:11 am

Nope, no Blue Crowns yet. I did finally get around to shooting some pictures of last week's plugs and parts from Hershey.

IMG_4332 copy.JPG
IMG_4334 copy.JPG
IMG_4336 copy.JPG
The inevitable often happens.
1915 Runabout
1923 Touring


Topic author
Terry_007
Posts: 89
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:18 pm
First Name: Terry
Last Name: Bond
Location: Chesapeake VA
MTFCI Number: 15718

Re: Interesting spark plug finds at Hershey

Post by Terry_007 » Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:43 am

Here is a box of plug cores I found over in the Chocolate field. I didn't buy them all, just the good Champions. Price was good as you can see.
Terry
Attachments
Plug cores.jpg


R.V.Anderson
Posts: 132
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:01 pm
First Name: R.V.
Last Name: Anderson
Location: Kennedy, NY

Re: Interesting spark plug finds at Hershey

Post by R.V.Anderson » Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:43 pm

May be common as dirt but I've never seen a Wards Riverside plug.
Attachments
Hershey '19 009.JPG


Dallas Landers
Posts: 977
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:26 pm
First Name: Dallas
Last Name: Landers
Location: N.E. Indiana
MTFCA Number: 49995

Re: Interesting spark plug finds at Hershey

Post by Dallas Landers » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:33 pm

20190925_190415.jpg
20190925_190355.jpg
Not found a Hershey but while we are on the subject. Has anyone run these" Gambles Deluxe" plugs? I think they are NOS as I see no wear on electrodes. I may give them a try. I was just looking for experienced opinions.

User avatar

Steve Jelf
Posts: 1604
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:37 pm
First Name: Steve
Last Name: Jelf
Location: Parkerfield, Kansas
MTFCA Number: 16175
MTFCI Number: 14758
Board Member Since: 2007
Contact:

Re: Interesting spark plug finds at Hershey

Post by Steve Jelf » Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:27 pm

I've never had one of those double electrode plugs. I'd like to put one in the tester and see if it really has two sparks.
The inevitable often happens.
1915 Runabout
1923 Touring

User avatar

Steve Jelf
Posts: 1604
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:37 pm
First Name: Steve
Last Name: Jelf
Location: Parkerfield, Kansas
MTFCA Number: 16175
MTFCI Number: 14758
Board Member Since: 2007
Contact:

Re: Interesting spark plug finds at Hershey

Post by Steve Jelf » Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:52 pm

I already had a Ward's plug, but it's not Riverside.

IMG_1222 copy.JPG
The inevitable often happens.
1915 Runabout
1923 Touring

User avatar

George N Lake Ozark
Posts: 196
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:15 pm
First Name: George P
Last Name: Clipner
Location: LakeOzark,Missourah
MTFCI Number: 18665

Re: Interesting spark plug finds at Hershey

Post by George N Lake Ozark » Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:46 am

Martyn Vowell is a big Blue Crown fan don’t know the benefits


Topic author
Terry_007
Posts: 89
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:18 pm
First Name: Terry
Last Name: Bond
Location: Chesapeake VA
MTFCI Number: 15718

Re: Interesting spark plug finds at Hershey

Post by Terry_007 » Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:25 am

"I've never had one of those double electrode plugs. I'd like to put one in the tester and see if it really has two sparks."

Short answer is no. Two ground electrodes (or more) with just one center electrode will always produce just a single spark, arching between it and closest ground electrode.

There were some plugs designed to produce two sparks but they had two terminals and two center electrodes. They were connected in series with a regular plug to produce the second spark. Not something you'd ever see in a Model T. Here is a link to discussion and info on these types of plugs that was on the AACA discussion forum a couple of years ago

https://forums.aaca.org/topic/315170-ch ... s-per-cyl/
Terry

User avatar

Will_Vanderburg
Posts: 182
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:59 pm
First Name: William
Last Name: Vanderburg
Location: Jackson, NJ
MTFCA Number: 28382

Re: Interesting spark plug finds at Hershey

Post by Will_Vanderburg » Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:40 am

I have a set of 4 Wards plugs. They run like crap
William L Vanderburg

1925 Touring
1922 Center Door Sedan

User avatar

Rich Eagle
Posts: 1487
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:51 am
First Name: Richard
Last Name: Eagle
Location: Idaho Falls, ID
MTFCA Number: 1219
Contact:

Re: Interesting spark plug finds at Hershey

Post by Rich Eagle » Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:50 am

That is interesting Will. I ran a set of Wards plugs that ran quite well. I took them out to put in my plug display after a few trouble free years. I suppose all plugs give different service at different times.
It's always nice to see the old plugs. The variety never ends.
Rich
When did I do that?


John kuehn
Posts: 532
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:00 pm
First Name: John
Last Name: Kuehn
Location: Texas
MTFCA Number: 28924

Re: Interesting spark plug finds at Hershey

Post by John kuehn » Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:15 pm

Don’t know if they are real rare but I haven’t seen anybody post any Wizards before. These were in my Grandfathers plug box when I inherited his 24 Coupe in 1959. These are the best 4 and surprisingly they work fine. Probably from the 40’s or 50’s since they aren’t 2 piece.
I assume they were a Western Auto product.
Attachments
B4421679-6002-42C6-96C3-BA8554071ED0.jpeg

User avatar

Rich Eagle
Posts: 1487
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:51 am
First Name: Richard
Last Name: Eagle
Location: Idaho Falls, ID
MTFCA Number: 1219
Contact:

Re: Interesting spark plug finds at Hershey

Post by Rich Eagle » Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:38 pm

Hi John. In 50 years I have picked up these 3 Wizards but I don't remember any others. There are some on Ebay and some look much later.
Wizard.jpg
When did I do that?


John kuehn
Posts: 532
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:00 pm
First Name: John
Last Name: Kuehn
Location: Texas
MTFCA Number: 28924

Re: Interesting spark plug finds at Hershey

Post by John kuehn » Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:50 pm

Thanks Rich for the post. I think Wizard was probably a cheaper plug than Champion. In other words sort of an off brand. The one piece plugs were cheaper than the take apart types I guess. There probably aren’t any 2 piece Wizards around.

User avatar

Steve Jelf
Posts: 1604
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:37 pm
First Name: Steve
Last Name: Jelf
Location: Parkerfield, Kansas
MTFCA Number: 16175
MTFCI Number: 14758
Board Member Since: 2007
Contact:

Re: Interesting spark plug finds at Hershey

Post by Steve Jelf » Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:36 pm

IMG_4340 copy.JPG
Looking into my box of other-brand plugs, I find that there are several Wizard versions for Model T, including a couple of semi-take-apart plugs, which are similar to brass hat Champion X in that the core can't be taken apart, but it can be removed from the base.
The inevitable often happens.
1915 Runabout
1923 Touring


Allan
Posts: 761
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:21 pm
First Name: Allan
Last Name: Bennett
Location: Gawler, Australia

Re: Interesting spark plug finds at Hershey

Post by Allan » Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:47 pm

The dual electrode plugs spark once, to the nearest contact. The advantage is that as the electrodes are eroded by the spark, they will switch between electrodes, thus making repeated re-gapping unnecessary. At least, that's what I was told. Others may have different theories.

Allan from down under.

Post Reply Previous topicNext topic