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Midwinter Clinic

Post by Steve Jelf » Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:54 pm

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Re: Midwinter Clinic

Post by Chris Paulsen » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:30 pm

Everything is in place for what should be a great day. If you've got questions, just let me know.

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Post by kirkiep » Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:21 pm

Chris and Steve
Thanks so much for the info. Larry Azevedo and I will be there.
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Post by John Dow » Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:26 pm

Weather permitting, I'll be there. Thank you.


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Post by jmemjr » Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:32 pm

Chris can you tell me a little more about the vendor part of the clinic? Are they selling stuff or are they displaying, or talking about the improvement to the car of their products.

Also what cars will be at the college that are interesting? Are some of the students projects going to be there? That might be fun to see.


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Post by Chris Paulsen » Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:33 am

The vendors are going to talk about new products. They may have a few for sale.

The clinic is being held in Templeton Hall, home of the restoration program. All 40,000 sq ft of the building will be open for viewing at your leisure throughout the day. We have 15-20 vehicles that the students are working on at any given time, ranging from our 1886 Benz replica to about 1970, including a couple Model T speedster projects.


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Re: Midwinter Clinic

Post by wayfarer » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:07 pm

this brings back memories ! I graduated from the program in 1992. I went back once, in maybe 2002 or 2003 or thereabouts. I bet it's changed a ton again.


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Post by jmemjr » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:04 pm

From what I understated the program has grown quite a bit. I know they have placed a lot of graduates in some very prestigious collections as well as opening up their own shops. I believe they are working on a Mercedes for a Pebble Beach Entry now. should be pretty cool when finished.

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Post by Steve Jelf » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:43 pm

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One of the former students at McPherson is Seamus, who now works at the Stahl collection and received last year's Yumori Award.
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Post by Chris Paulsen » Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:25 pm

Wayfarer- it has changed tremendously. We'd be glad to have you come back anytime.

We are in the middle of restoring a 1953 Mercedes-Benz 300S Cabriolet. Our goal is to show it, as a completely student-restored car, at Pebble Beach in 2023.
It's always amazing to me to see where our graduates end up. I'm even a little envious of a few of them!


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Post by wayfarer » Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:38 am

Chris Paulsen - well... I didn't go into "the industry" immediately after college. old cars as a hobby, then old motorcycles, a couple short part time "hang around" gigs at a couple small shops. Then in 2000 I started working at a street rod shop here in Colorado Springs. Did that for 10 years. In late '08 I went back to school at a local auto program that had a couple classes I wanted to take. I ended up testing out of my last couple classes, leaving the street rod shop, and taking a job teaching. Been doing that ever since. My 10 year teaching anniversary is this summer.......A few of the cars when I was at Mac - 1907 Holzman, original, just on display. 1928 AR Phaeton, 1948 Lincoln Continental almost done, 1927 Hudson almost done, 1910 Maxwell. 1967 Camaro, 1917 Willys-Knight. Fond memories.


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Post by Chris Paulsen » Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:25 pm

Sorry to everyone else for the thread drift...
I remember all of those cars. I graduated in 1996.
The Holsman stayed on display for many years. It was determined to be far less original than thought so we restored it. We still have it. The Maxwell resides in a collection about 25 miles away. I drove it a few months ago. The Willys-Knight was completed years ago and it also still at the college. All the other cars you mentioned.... I'm not sure where they ended up. Thanks for the memories!


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Post by MWalker » Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:46 am

kirkiep -- Thanks for the post saying that you and Larry A. will be there. I'm looking forward to seeing you again and meeting Larry for the first time. See you there!

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Post by kirkiep » Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:39 pm

Mike
Looking forward to the clinic and seeing you.
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Post by Chris Paulsen » Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:52 pm

Just a few days away. The weather looks like it's going to be clear. Everything is in place, and it sounds like we've got a good crowd coming.
In addition, we've got 2 Montana 500 cars, and 3 Model T's that are owned by McPherson College students that will be on display. Plus the 15 or so college-owned cars that the students are working on.
It should be a great day. Hope to see you there!


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Post by Chris Paulsen » Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:40 am

We're waiting for a few more Model T's to show up for display and discussion but we're ready. Should be a fun day!
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Post by perry kete » Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:57 pm

Anyone have pictures of the clinic they can post?
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Post by John Dow » Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:42 pm

It was a well attended event and great to see everybody. I have no intention of entering the Montana 500 but I received lots of ideas on how to improve my T's performance. 'Sorry some of you missed it.

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Post by kirkiep » Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:24 pm

Thanks to Chris and all the Kansas gang for hosting a very informative event. Tom C and Mike S shared a lot of valuable information about improving the performance of your T.
Mike showed us the new dipstick they are producing. Tom is reproducing the Anderson and New Day timers.
Dennis and Nick bought their MT500 race cars to display. Bill Devine and Dave Nolting brought Parts that they make and sell.
It was a great day at McPherson College.
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Post by Chris Paulsen » Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:53 pm

Thank you to all that came to the clinic.
We had a final head count of 119 people. From what I was told, that's the biggest crowd yet.
I thought the presenters were great.
I didn't get any photos- I hope someone will post some.
We had 6 Model T's on display - 2 Montana 500 cars, 3 owned by students, and 1 college car. Additionally, 4 people drove their Model T's to the clinic.


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Post by V4F » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:14 pm

Great presentations and info about the Montana 500 as well as Model T parts and tools.
Thanks to the guys from:
Antique Auto Ranch - Spokane, WA
Birdhaven Vintage Auto - Colfax, IA
Dave's Restoration - Ashley, OH
As well as the students and staff at McPherson College.
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Post by V4F » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:16 pm

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Post by Steve Jelf » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:34 pm

I just spent an hour getting pictures ready to post, then my browser crashed and wiped out all my work. I quit. Maybe I'll finish the job tomorrow. :(
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Post by DHort » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:13 am

Any chance of a video on youtube?

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Post by Steve Jelf » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:39 am

I didn't see anybody shooting video.
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Post by Steve Jelf » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:10 am

I'll try a different browser and hope it doesn't crash. Here we go.

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Gathering before the show.

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Chris Paulsen was ramrod for the event.


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The audience awaits.

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Chris served as M.C.


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Mike Stormo told of some things you can do to go fast...
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Post by Steve Jelf » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:11 am

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...and Tom Carnegie also shared speed tips.

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After the talk there was more talk as questions continued.

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Bill Devine (Birdhaven, Texas T, Fun Projects) with Steve Behrendt.

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Mike Bender visits with Dean Yoder.

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Gary Paulsen with Steve Robbins.
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Completed projects include a 1917 Willys Knight and a 1929 Ford.

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1908 Holsman.

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1886 Benz, not-1886 Cushman. :)

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1923 Ford Montana 500 car, Dennis & Karen Dakan, Maryville, MO.


There were other shots of cars I should have taken, but these will have to do.
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Post by perry kete » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:17 am

STEVE,

THANKS for the great photos and captions
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Post by KeithG » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:52 am

Hi Steve, Thanks for taking these nice pictures and posting them. Those of us who couldn't be there appreciate it very much.
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Post by kirkiep » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:22 pm

Steve
Thanks for posting the pictures.
The "more talk" Tom was having was with Larry Azevedo MTFCA President
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Post by Chris Paulsen » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:19 pm

Thanks for posting the photos. I'm not sure I was the "ramrod", just a part of the new committee that put the clinic together this year.

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Post by Steve Jelf » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:35 pm

Well, whoever made the arrangements, it was a good one. :)
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Post by jmemjr » Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:05 pm

Unfortunately I could not be there, its long flight from NJ.

The new committee who organized this event should be commended for taking over the event that was dwindling in attendance and breathing life into it. From the photos it looks like a well organized and attended event. I am hoping some of the members on the forum would give their opinions of the event and the top three things they learned on how to make their cars go faster. I know I am always looking to give my '12 a little extra pep in its step. Also I am curious if the event will continue to be held around the same weekend next year.

I have to admit I am not quite sure about he Ramrod comment, the NJ definition of it is not all that complementary and for those who may take it negatively maybe a synonym would have been a better choice.I am sure the organizers spent a lot of time and effort to host it and a " complement " that could be taken in a negative light was not appropriate.

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Post by Steve Jelf » Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:08 pm

I was thinking of Rowdy Yates, Gil Favor's ramrod. I thought of it as the guy in charge who gets things done, and I didn't consult a dictionary. Another word may have been better.

An important aspect of gaining speed I got from Mike and Tom is that it's not one or two big steps, but a collection of little steps. When you think about it that makes sense, because big steps tend to be non-stock. One little step Mike mentioned was Dynabeads, which hadn't occurred to me.
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