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Can you help identify these dash to windshield brackets?

Post by Tbird » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:45 am

So I’m going through some parts and I have these brass dash to windshield brackets. I have two pair. They came with a Rands brass windshield. These brackets are for mounting the windshield sides to the side of the firewall. They look like they are for a Model T, but the length of them does not look right. I see the vendors sell repop and they appear shorter than these. I placed them on the second piece of a two piece firewall and snapped a couple photos for reference as well. The length is 4 1/2” Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks
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Re: Can you help identify these dash to windshield brackets?

Post by Rich Eagle » Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:50 am

I don't have the answer but here is a discussion of ones that look like those:
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/41 ... 1418655546
If nobody here has the answer I'll bet Royce on the Ford Fix site could tell you.
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Re: Can you help identify these dash to windshield brackets?

Post by ramition » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:46 pm

I don’t understand what you want to do with these mounts, what are you using them for?


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Re: Can you help identify these dash to windshield brackets?

Post by Nv Bob » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:00 pm

I say truck or car non Ford using tubular style windshield on flat dash
Make model will be hard or anyones guess
Look to be brass if so i say pre 1911

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Re: Can you help identify these dash to windshield brackets?

Post by TRDxB2 » Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:51 pm

I'm going to show these to someone tomorrow that will know. Says early T also.

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Re: Can you help identify these dash to windshield brackets?

Post by Tbird » Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:25 pm

I'm just trying to sort out what is what. These brackets came with the Rands windshield which I was told was on a Model T. From what I've read so far is that Rands supplied the brackets with their windshield. The brackets that are repop are just one of many styles that we're available. These brackets would have went on the filler panel of the two piece firewall. Perhaps someone with an unmolested original T could verify about the brackets on a two piece firewall. No doubt these brackets are old. The brass plating is there in some places. If these are original to a Rands windshield Model T I would reuse them for originality purposes. I just need to know if these particular "Style" brackets being the longer ones would be the ones that were supplied for a Model T two piece dash.
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Re: Can you help identify these dash to windshield brackets?

Post by Larry » Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:48 pm

They are windshield to firewall riser brackets 1909, 1910. They fit around the ends of the firewall riser and clap on to the bottom of the windshield frame. They were steel that was brass plated.
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Re: Can you help identify these dash to windshield brackets?

Post by Tbird » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:59 pm

Larry,
Interesting! Thanks for the picture. Now here's another mystery. The Rands windshield that came with these brackets is not your typical equal half windshield. It has a larger bottom half and smaller top half. So we're these brackets only unique to the 09-10 year?
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Re: Can you help identify these dash to windshield brackets?

Post by Larry » Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:33 pm

Mike,
Those brackets were used with the rands windshield in 1911 as well.
The 1909,1910 Rands with the internal spring hinges had equal windshield halves (13 3/4”).
The 1911 Rands with the internal spring hinges
Had the larger lower frame (14 3/4”) and the smaller frame on the top (12 3/4”).
The attached photo is a 1911 Touring.
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Re: Can you help identify these dash to windshield brackets?

Post by Tbird » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:08 am

Larry,
Thanks a bunch for the info. The Rands windshield that I have does have the internal spring hinges and the smaller upper half. Looks like I'll clean them up and get them re-plated. It's great to know that these brackets are original to the windshield/era.
Mike

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