FS... 1925 Coupe that's been in my family for 73 years

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FS... 1925 Coupe that's been in my family for 73 years

Post by James_Lyons-WV » Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:41 pm

Up for sale is an early 1925 Model T Ford Coupe, which was built in November of 1924. This car has been in my family now for 73 years. My Grandfather, (Fred Long) who was a charter member of the Nation’s Capital Region MTFCI, purchased this car sometime in 1948 while working his beat as a Washington DC policeman. He often saw the car being driven as daily transportation and one day he stopped the owner and made an offer on the car. He paid $50 for it.
Sometime between 1948 and 1950, my grandfather restored the car. Clearly the standards of the day were different than now, but the car still wears its 71+ year old paint. The gray wool interior is a replacement that my grandmother sewed from scratch when it was restored. It has held up well and is far more rugged than the replacements today. It looks remarkably like the gray Ford cloth interior, but not exact.
Since its purchase in 48, the coupe has had a pretty interesting history with us. It was used in the early 1950’s during opening day celebrations when the Chesapeake Bay bridge was opened. It was also used in the 1955 movie, “Court-martial of Billy Mitchell” starring Gary Cooper and Elizabeth Montgomery. In 1972, the old Ford got submerged in 4 feet of water when Hurricane Agnes came up through Maryland and the flood breached the dykes. The water line is faintly visible on the door panels. The car was quickly dried out, cleaned and back in service after the flood with no lingering damage other than the door panel stains.
From 1950 until 1983, the car saw constant use touring the states surrounding Washington DC with the AACA and other clubs. In 83 it was parked until I took possession of it in 2004. Under my care, it hasn’t been driven more than 200 miles because as a two-seater, it was too small for a family. I have a 1915 Touring car that we use. Plus, I’ve migrated toward Brass cars more than anything else, so the old Coupe just doesn’t get used much. It has been maintained and driven on occasion just for exercise, but mostly it just sits. So it’s time to pass it along.
About the car.
The car still has its original drive-line that it had when my grandfather bought it in 48. It’s a good runner and will be great for touring. The engine has never been fully rebuilt on today’s standards and still sports its standard bore and cast-iron pistons. It has had the head shaved, rings on a couple of occasions and several valves and two rods replaced in the 73 years we’ve had it. It’s also had two valve jobs that I know of whereby all eight seats were lapped. I also replaced the lifters with adjustable’s recently. The block has several water-jacket cracks that were there as far back as 48. They’ve been repaired with epoxy over the years and never given us any problems. I ground them out and filled them with JB weld this year so they are good for another 20 years. Not to worry, I do have a spare 1925 block that goes with the car that can be put into service at the new owner’s leisure. I also have the original engine pans to go with the car. The one thing that does not work right now is the starter. But it starts easy by the hand-crank so I haven’t fussed with it. I also have a spare one of those to go along with the new owner too. The car has a new set of “old version” Scandinavia bands in it with zero miles. The oil was just changed too.
About 7 years ago, I put a brand new set of tires and tubes on the car from Universal. They have probably 20 miles on them and are not cracking or checking that I can see. The differential has not been opened up that I know of. But I’ve experienced no issues in my short excursions that would indicate the thrust washers are babbit or excessively worn. Nevertheless, it is something to consider. I did put NOS Hyatt bearing sleeves in it several years back and back before I got it, my uncle put spiral springs around the axles and neoprene seals in it to prevent leaking.
The body has all of its original sheet metal and the wood is original too. I put a new top on it back in 2004, which kind of was a fail, but It looks great and does not leak. The paint is very old as I have said and two of the wheels are peeling/flaking. The paint is somewhat dull, with lots of chips and scratches, but in one of the photo’s I tried to capture an area of the hood that I waxed to show that it has some shine left to it. From 10 feet away, it looks great – just like a Model T should. It just needs some detailing. The car comes with a replacement hood that my grandfather bought years ago because the original is cracking. As a bonus, you get a layer of river mud on the new/old hood, left behind from the flood in 72.
Overall, this is a great car that with a little bit of tinkering and maintenance, you can have it ready to tour. It is just time for me to pass it along to someone who will enjoy it and maybe even restore it. My price, including the spare block, starter, and a handful of other engine miscellaneous parts is $8,000. It has a clear Maryland title in my Uncle’s name and ownership will be transferred with this title. Shipping arrangements are up to you. If you have any questions, please don’t hesitate to contact me.
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Re: FS... 1925 Coupe that's been in my family for 73 years

Post by James_Lyons-WV » Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:44 pm

More pictures.....
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Re: FS... 1925 Coupe that's been in my family for 73 years

Post by James_Lyons-WV » Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:47 pm

Last four pictures. One shows my Grandfather in front of Union Station in DC during the filming of the Billy Mitchell movie.
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Re: FS... 1925 Coupe that's been in my family for 73 years

Post by Henry K. Lee » Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:02 pm

At that price and family history.., I say it is gone by midnight!

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Re: FS... 1925 Coupe that's been in my family for 73 years

Post by James_Lyons-WV » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:58 pm

The car is no longer for sale through the forum directly. Since there was no interest, it has been listed on Ebay. Thanks MTFCA.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/154433771552

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Re: FS... 1925 Coupe that's been in my family for 73 years

Post by Novice » Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:53 am

James. Nice car. very interesting history with lots of documentation. You have had 1490 views so far. So there was interest.
just no offers in the three days You have had it listed here.
Good luck on e-bay.
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Re: FS... 1925 Coupe that's been in my family for 73 years

Post by Susanne » Sun May 02, 2021 8:22 pm

Lots of interest, and a very nice car, but unfortunately just not enough time to give someone here a chance to see it before you pulled it, or to figure out if they can get the $$ together for the car and shipping over the weekend...


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Re: FS... 1925 Coupe that's been in my family for 73 years

Post by Scott_Conger » Sun May 02, 2021 9:16 pm

Well, it's still below his asking price...no reason not to bid on it now that everyone has thought about it...

James
I don't blame you a bit in advertising this car to a wider audience than is on the Forum. It was sporting of you to have done it and if anyone here was remotely interested in it, it would have sold very quickly, as Hank alluded. Best of luck with the sale.
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Re: FS... 1925 Coupe that's been in my family for 73 years

Post by Novice » Sun May 02, 2021 9:18 pm

:idea: Better check all that cash with a UV light. Funny money is floating around. But they don't laugh at the bank.

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Deposit of $500 is required within 24 hours of your winning bid. The remainder is due when you pick the car up IN CASH. I WILL NOT take any other form of payment. It has a clear Maryland title in my Uncle’s name and ownership will be transferred with this title and a bill of sale. I will not go to DMV and have it re-titled. That place is a zoo. Shipping arrangements are up to you. Please note, that my driveway can only handle a pickup truck and car trailer. If you are having a big car carrier come fetch it, I will need to know so I can be in contact with the driver. I live on a mountain so you can’t get a semi up my driveway. If you have any questions, please don’t hesitate to contact me. I communicate quickly and clearly.


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Re: FS... 1925 Coupe that's been in my family for 73 years

Post by Sandow » Tue May 04, 2021 4:17 am

Out of curiosity, what the car to the right and left of it? Thanks you


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Re: FS... 1925 Coupe that's been in my family for 73 years

Post by Sandow » Tue May 04, 2021 4:17 am

Sandow wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 4:17 am
Out of curiosity, what the car to the right and left of it? Thanks you
What are the cars...typo, thanks


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Re: FS... 1925 Coupe that's been in my family for 73 years

Post by James_Lyons-WV » Tue May 04, 2021 7:36 am

The car to the left (in the front end photo) is a very nice 1913 Ford Touring and the car to the right is a 1906 Maxwell, Model S - also known as the "Gentlemen's Speedster". There are only three known Model S cars in existence, but this is the only one that is confirmed - having "S" as the suffix in the serial number. I also know the history of the Maxwell going back to 1925.

Ebay is a great place to sell a vehicle. I've sold more than 20 vehicles on the site over the years and had excellent results. And yes, I do swipe the bills with a marker before handing over the title.

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SOLD

Post by Novice » Thu May 06, 2021 8:33 pm

SOLD $7700.00 in six days on e-bay

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