3017B timing cover adaptor

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3017B timing cover adaptor

Post by vanco » Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:15 am

I need an adaptor so that I can use my 1914 timing cover on a rebuilt 1920 engine. If you have one that you want to sell please contact me. Thank You, John

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Re: 3017B timing cover adaptor

Post by A Whiteman » Fri Apr 24, 2020 1:08 am

I guess you could make an adapter from a bity of plate steel ?

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Re: 3017B timing cover adaptor

Post by AndreFordT » Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:59 pm

Did you try the "Model T Haven" ??

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Re: 3017B timing cover adaptor

Post by Hap_Tucker » Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:47 pm

Adrian,

He is looking for the casting that Ford used 1919-1921 when the starter/generator blocks were first introduced. Initially the casting that held the generator cost significantly more than the casting that could be used on a non-starter block. For a detailed explanation of cost of 3017 vs 3017 see the posting at: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802/153324.html And the photos and info below are from that posting -- Thanks to Corey Walker for posting them.
3017 timing gear cover 1919-27 Generator block off - two plates front and back.jpg
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I agree with Andre that Model T Haven would likely have that part. It doesn't wear out and if the block freezes it doesn't crack that casting. Photos are a little out of order -- I'm still working on getting them in the place I want them. But I need to stop and do the yard.

Good luck with your search and your project.

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Re: 3017B timing cover adaptor

Post by Dan Hatch » Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:59 pm

That is a rare part. Most time they sell for a lot. I have sold every one I have ever got. I can look for another one if you want. Will take a few days. Dan

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Re: 3017B timing cover adaptor

Post by A Whiteman » Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:39 pm

Hi Hap, glad to hear from you, trust that you and yours are safe.

My thoughts were to build up a part from two sections of plate, bending and welding a curved section to a flat backing. It may need a third bit to bolt to the block. It would be a bit of engineering work, but possibly be a way forward to solve the issue until a genuine part can be found.

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Re: 3017B timing cover adaptor

Post by Hap_Tucker » Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:50 pm

Adrian,

We are doing fine (funny as we get older we don't say we are doing great ... just we are doing fine :) .

My bad, when you said "plate steel" I read "steel plate" and was thinking you meant the "generator block off plate" part number 3017-D in the illustration from the price list of parts. (Lang's photo at: https://www.modeltford.com/item/3017.aspx )

Best to you and yours.

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Re: 3017B timing cover adaptor

Post by Original Smith » Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:03 am

Try the classified.


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Re: 3017B timing cover adaptor

Post by Andy Loso » Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:08 am

I have one. aloso@q.com

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