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Post by Dan Hatch » Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:33 pm

Guys I know that this is T classified, but I need this to go to someone who could use it. 1950’s Chevy 6 cly head and block. No crank or rods, just head with valves and block with caps. $50.00 pickup here zip 35173. Email me at address in pictures for more info. Thanks Dan
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Re: Off topic but FS

Post by kmatt2 » Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:26 pm

Dan, Just for information on the 1950's Chevy 6 cy engine. Is it a 1950-53 216 or a 1954-59 235 6 cy. I don't need but the two engines are quite different.


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Re: Off topic but FS

Post by Dan Hatch » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:13 pm

Casting # on head is 3836848 GM 6.
Does the 216 have a big side cover that covers half the engine? This cover is long and narrow. I think it may be a 235. Do not know only need it gone. Thanks Dan


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Re: Off topic but FS

Post by csnailnrun » Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:34 pm

235 is the half Length valve cover. I cannot speak to if the heads are the same.


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Re: Off topic but FS

Post by kmatt2 » Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:59 pm

Dan, Yes the big cover is a 216 engine, it goes from almost piston deck to almost oil pan. The 235 has the smaller and more standard looking cover. The 235 engine was the base engine in full size cars 1955 threw 1962 and all 1954 cars.


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Re: Off topic but FS

Post by ttaylor » Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:03 pm

That head is a 57-62 head which was originally bolted to a 235.


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Re: Off topic but FS

Post by Dan Hatch » Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:13 pm

Thanks guys


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Re: Off topic but FS

Post by Scott C. » Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:19 pm

Early 235's had the large side cover like the 216's. I think the 235's actually date back to 1935?


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Re: Off topic but FS

Post by Wayne Sheldon » Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:12 am

One key difference between Chevy's 216 era engines, and most of the 235s from late 1954 onward, is the water pump. The 216 era engines, including the early 235s, had two fairly small holes on the front of the block, near the top, for the water pump. The water pump itself was mounted on a flat steel plate which formed the back of the water pump. The bottom end of the back of the pump had holes to match the two in the block. This arrangement placed the water pump somewhat above the engine block, which held it more centered on the tall radiators of the late '30s and '40s. It continued to work out okay for the '49 through '54 cars, but was already pushing the upper limit in the engine bay. For the next step, 235s being the base model engine, everything was updated slightly. The two smallish holes in the front of the block were replaced by a single larger hole (about four inches diameter), with a simplified water pump mounted directly inside the larger hole. The lower water pump and fan fit better in the new lower profile cars
The early 235 engines are very similar in outward appearance to the base model 216s, having the much larger pushrod covers and higher mounted water pump. They are moderately rare, and prized by vintage Chevy owners that like the basically earlier appearance coupled with the higher speed and performance the 235 offered.
I do not know when the early 235 was first offered. However, I had been told a few times that the one in my dad's 1952 Chevy two ton truck was one of the earliest. Whether that information was correct or not? I do not know. I don't know if they went back to before WW2, but it wouldn't surprise me if they did. I learned a long time ago that many of the things I was being told were in fact wrong.
I think, but do not know for certain, that some of the early two speed automatic transmission cars may have had the early 235 engines. I had been told that only the larger trucks had the 235s for a few years. But enough people have told me otherwise since then, that I tend to not believe the early 235s were only in trucks.


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Re: Off topic but FS

Post by kmatt2 » Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:14 pm

Thanks Wayne for filling in some 235 information. The earlier 235 was a big truck engine, over 1 ton trucks and known as the " high torque engine " by Chevy . It is a different engine from the 1954 and later 235 and goes back to before WW 2 frist used in the late thirties. The 1950 to 1953 power glide automatic equipment cars used a verison of this 235 engine, on the outside it looks a lot like the 216 engine. These early 235 engines are harder to find and sought out by early Chevy collectors. This is why I frist asked about the engine, the answer was that it was a later 50s 235 engine also looked for by early Chevy colrctors but not that hard to find.

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