Model T Engine Stand

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Model T Engine Stand

Post by hkraft1 » Tue May 25, 2021 9:31 am

Original Model T Engine Stand. Saved decades ago by Henry Austin Clark Jr. and was at the Long Island Automotive Museum until he passed. From there it came to me and I have had it since. I've never seen one like it and if Clark saved it, then it was certainly a rare piece and worth saving.

If you have any questions let me know!

Open to offers. Located in Huntington, NY.

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Re: Model T Engine Stand

Post by RajoRacer » Tue May 25, 2021 11:04 am

I believe that is a "running-in" stand for rebuilt engines.

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Re: Model T Engine Stand

Post by ironhorse » Tue May 25, 2021 11:05 am

Looks like a burn-in stand, belt driven it was used to "limber up" a new engine or one that has just been re-rabbeted. nice piece,
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Re: Model T Engine Stand

Post by tman12 » Tue May 25, 2021 11:53 am

Hi From Iowa! That is a very nice piece! I would love it , but it should deff be in the T Museum! I would be glad to start a fund to pay you & get it into the Museum! I would donate $20 to help it on the way! Lets Get It Done!!! Thanks John


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Re: Model T Engine Stand

Post by dmdeaton » Tue May 25, 2021 12:05 pm

That would be cool restored and working!


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Re: Model T Engine Stand

Post by speedytinc » Tue May 25, 2021 12:28 pm

Would be neat in an old machine shop to power the belt drive machinery.


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Re: Model T Engine Stand

Post by Dan Hatch » Tue May 25, 2021 2:22 pm

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Re: Model T Engine Stand

Post by It's Bill » Tue May 25, 2021 4:19 pm

What is your guess on weight? Bill

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Re: Model T Engine Stand

Post by Matt in California » Wed May 26, 2021 1:47 am

I wish this was near me! I believe that Steve is correct. If it was to run a pulley it would need something to hold a radiator.


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Re: Model T Engine Stand

Post by ThreePedalTapDancer » Wed May 26, 2021 7:58 am

I believe it is an early one, before they switched to electric powered run in stands as seen in pic
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Re: Model T Engine Stand

Post by TXGOAT2 » Wed May 26, 2021 8:37 am

That's a run-in stand. It needs to be cleaned up and put to use. See Figure 171, page 69, Ford Model T service book. I'd guess you'd need about 8-10 horsepower to run it.

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Re: Model T Engine Stand

Post by JTT3 » Wed May 26, 2021 9:28 am

It must be an early one, looking at the working one pictured it’s electric not belt drive. The picture above has an engine that is either a 12 or 13 judging from what I believe is a Aluminium 12 oiler/commutator plus the 4 ball carburetor & needle nosed pan. Must have been a more northern car engine as it has a heater cover on the manifold. Also behind the back of the stand there is another engine, is that an H1 carb on it? Boy that’s a really nice piece, any one that builds engines would be lucky to own it. I’m surprised it survived World War II SCRAP metal drives.


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Re: Model T Engine Stand

Post by Junk poor » Wed May 26, 2021 11:27 am

Is there a name on it?

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Re: Model T Engine Stand

Post by Bill Everett » Wed May 26, 2021 11:52 am

I believe, regardless of it's age or when it was used, it is driven by a flat belt, and the lever in a couple of the pictures activates a clutch to slowly transfer the spinning power created by the belt into energy to turn the engine from the back end; that square stub-shaft probably fits a T engine/transmission unit the same way a universal joint does.

It's a guess, but it sounds possible.


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Re: Model T Engine Stand

Post by Dan Hatch » Wed May 26, 2021 12:38 pm

Please check your email, have not gotten a reply. Thanks Dan.

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Re: Model T Engine Stand

Post by JTT3 » Wed May 26, 2021 2:35 pm

Bill I agree with you on the original pictures, I was referring to the period picture just above my post. It clearly is not belt driven. That’s a really nice one pictured for sell.
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Re: Model T Engine Stand

Post by It's Bill » Wed May 26, 2021 5:13 pm

Wait a minute, there is electrical equipment with gauges connected to the one in the photo. Is this a dawn-of-the-automobile dynamometer? Agree on the lever operated clutch, would seem likely to softly engage a new engine to a test load. You guys are incredible at analyzing old pix, can you tell what those operators are thinking? ????Bill

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Re: Model T Engine Stand

Post by JTT3 » Wed May 26, 2021 5:34 pm

The guy in the bowler is saying I hope he doesn’t flip the switch (in other guys hand) on this thing I’m brushed up against the the darn electrical connections. Other guy is thinking “well Stanley it’s another fine mess you’ve got yourself into”


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Re: Model T Engine Stand

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Re: Model T Engine Stand

Post by kmatt2 » Wed May 26, 2021 11:35 pm

In the teens to early 1920's a small rural machine shop or auto repair place, that found business rebuilding Ford engines, may not have had access to the AC power needed to run their shop, and was still using a line shaft powered by one big industrial engine. They could use this type run in stand powered off their line shaft to bring in rebuld business. A shop some what like the one recreated at the MTFCA museum.


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Re: Model T Engine Stand

Post by hkraft1 » Thu May 27, 2021 11:33 am

To answer an earlier question about the weight, I'm really not sure. It would probably be best moved with a backhoe or other large equipment, or maybe a very heavy duty dolly.

Apologies if I have been slow to respond to emails. I'll be going through them this afternoon and responding to all of them.

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Re: Model T Engine Stand

Post by hkraft1 » Thu May 27, 2021 7:12 pm

Sold, pending payment. Thanks, MTFCA!

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Re: Model T Engine Stand

Post by DanTreace » Sat May 29, 2021 10:32 am

This burn in stand was delivered sold at Chickasha in 2007, nice condition, and with all the attachments


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Re: Model T Engine Stand

Post by Dan Hatch » Sat May 29, 2021 11:14 am

Wonder where it is now. My friend with me that year was so glad it was not for sale. 😅

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