WTB Watts clutch
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WTB Watts clutch
Any chance there is someone that has a Watts clutch they don't want and would willing to part with?
Thanks.
Craig.
Thanks.
Craig.
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Re: WTB Watts clutch
Given the name confusion surrounding some accessory clutch types… are you looking for the TH400, or the heavy fiber discs?
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Re: WTB Watts clutch
Hi Kevin,
Yes there is some confusion about clutches. I'm looking for the thick large fiber disc type.
Thanks.
Craig.
Yes there is some confusion about clutches. I'm looking for the thick large fiber disc type.
Thanks.
Craig.
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Re: WTB Watts clutch
I'm not all that familiar with the product but I have one that came with a garage full of parts I bought a while back - drop me a note & I'll get you some photos. Richard Gould seems to have some knowledge regarding these clutches.
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Re: WTB Watts clutch
I might still have a new RV Anderson 26-27 Watts clutch with the modified push ring. I'll check if you're interested. The material he used is different than the original Watts clutch. Price would be what I paid, $250.
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Re: WTB Watts clutch
OK I picked up Watts clutches. I have some questions about the installation of the different ones made. There is a video and a set of
instruction on the original Watts clutch. I seem to have picked up a RV Anderson clutch that may or May not be from the run that was
not very successful. I'm looking for info on how they where installed. The genuine Watts clutch was installed with out a Ford disc on
either outside of the pack??? Was the latter installed the same way? the one I picked up appears to have had a small disc on both ends.
This would make it far to thick to get a good disengagement. even with the pins on the pressure ring ground down. Any info would be
greatly appreciated. And to all the people that have emailed me on this Thanks.
instruction on the original Watts clutch. I seem to have picked up a RV Anderson clutch that may or May not be from the run that was
not very successful. I'm looking for info on how they where installed. The genuine Watts clutch was installed with out a Ford disc on
either outside of the pack??? Was the latter installed the same way? the one I picked up appears to have had a small disc on both ends.
This would make it far to thick to get a good disengagement. even with the pins on the pressure ring ground down. Any info would be
greatly appreciated. And to all the people that have emailed me on this Thanks.
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Re: WTB Watts clutch
I have a new watts clutch that came in a motor that had never run or had oil in it. It is stenciled on the fiber discs "Watts" Clutch. It has one used steel disc on the end and not one on the other end. I can count the discs if that would be of help to you. I have run Watts clutches for years and always had excellent results.
I for one never understood why Anderson thought he could improve on a perfect part to begin with. Whenever I contacted him his excuse was to make it better. After running Watts clutches for many more years than I can remember as well as most model t's in the Portland area, it was simple trouble free and gave you a true neutral.
just sayin'
brasscarguy
I for one never understood why Anderson thought he could improve on a perfect part to begin with. Whenever I contacted him his excuse was to make it better. After running Watts clutches for many more years than I can remember as well as most model t's in the Portland area, it was simple trouble free and gave you a true neutral.
just sayin'
brasscarguy
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Re: WTB Watts clutch
The reason John Watts quit building the clutches was because one day he went buy the. Friction material the supplier was closed and never reopened. He gave RV all his drawings and specs. I was unaware that actually made a few sets. The Watts clutch was very reliable , and once broken in you had a better neutral and did not slip. It took usually about two adjustments for break in. John supplied a heavier spring. You had to shorten the push ring pins a little . John or David Watts can be contacted for installing directions. Ted
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Re: WTB Watts clutch
I don't believe RV was attempting to improve it - it was simply find a suitable friction material available at a moderate price - the material Watts used went up like 300 percent !!! What model T guy would pay south of $3-4 hundred for a clutch pack ???
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Re: WTB Watts clutch
Check with Langs. If RV had any made up, Don would have received them.
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Re: WTB Watts clutch
Regardless of the material, the friction disks MUST have at least one large disk at both ends of the stack to prevent the friction disks from rubbing on the push ring or the brake drum surface.
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Re: WTB Watts clutch
Hi Frontyboy,
Yes that would be of help if you have time. Thanks. So far I have 2 used what I'm sure are RV Anderson clutches they seem to have been
installed completely different and the thickness of each does not seem correct. To thick (even with the push pins cut down) or to short.
The Watts Clutch that I have picked up appears to be new and in perfect shape and is the best candidate if installed as per the youtube
video and the printed instructions on line, all measurements come out very close. If some one has knowledge of a difference in the
RV Anderson instructions I would appreciate you enlightening me. Dan may have the answer but I'm afraid that will not let the clutch
release fully. None if the examples I have used a large disc ( may be why they where taken out)
Thanks everyone.
Craig.
Yes that would be of help if you have time. Thanks. So far I have 2 used what I'm sure are RV Anderson clutches they seem to have been
installed completely different and the thickness of each does not seem correct. To thick (even with the push pins cut down) or to short.
The Watts Clutch that I have picked up appears to be new and in perfect shape and is the best candidate if installed as per the youtube
video and the printed instructions on line, all measurements come out very close. If some one has knowledge of a difference in the
RV Anderson instructions I would appreciate you enlightening me. Dan may have the answer but I'm afraid that will not let the clutch
release fully. None if the examples I have used a large disc ( may be why they where taken out)
Thanks everyone.
Craig.