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WTB - 21" Kelsey Hayes split rims

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:01 pm
by vping
Please email pics and price.

Re: WTB - 21" Kelsey Hayes split rims

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 6:53 am
by Allan
The rims are either Kelsey or Hayes, and they differ. The two were not combined onto one entity until after T production ceased. Sellers need to know which wheels you have to match the split rims.

Hope this helps.
Allan from down under.

Re: WTB - 21" Kelsey Hayes split rims

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 11:44 am
by Dan Hatch
Allen I used to think that too,till I came across this.
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May have been made after the T was just a used car, but it was made. Dan

Re: WTB - 21" Kelsey Hayes split rims

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:19 pm
by Mark Gregush
Wonder if that was a replacement rim made after the merged in 1927?

Re: WTB - 21" Kelsey Hayes split rims

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:26 pm
by Dan Hatch
Most likely is. But they were made. Dan

Re: WTB - 21" Kelsey Hayes split rims

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:53 pm
by vping
Mine say Hayes across the top above the hole. I assumed they were referred to as Kelsey Hayes.

So if they are just Hayes, that's what I'm looking for.

Re: WTB - 21" Kelsey Hayes split rims

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:54 pm
by vping
Here's one finished.

Re: WTB - 21" Kelsey Hayes split rims

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:00 pm
by vping
A close up

Re: WTB - 21" Kelsey Hayes split rims

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 4:13 am
by Dan Hatch
That’s a Chevy rim. Works ok, but started life on a Chevy.

Re: WTB - 21" Kelsey Hayes split rims

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 4:13 pm
by vping
Dan Hatch wrote:
Wed Jan 24, 2024 4:13 am
That’s a Chevy rim. Works ok, but started life on a Chevy.
Mine or the one "Kelsey Hayes" pic higher up in the thread?

Re: WTB - 21" Kelsey Hayes split rims

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:10 pm
by Dan Hatch
Yours. Chevy rims have a notch in one of the lugs.?

Re: WTB - 21" Kelsey Hayes split rims

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 6:29 pm
by vping
Interesting. So I just looked and I have the one pictured, 2 with a vertical "Hayes" on the left side of the lugs, and 2 others with no brand that I can see. The spare is decent as is the 1 we refinished and the other 3 are going to take a lot of work.

So I'm looking for 3 or 4, 21" split rims close enough match to what I have. If Chevy works, I'll take that too.

Re: WTB - 21" Kelsey Hayes split rims

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 6:51 pm
by RajoRacer
I understand that the tube stem hole isn't the same place as the Ford.

Re: WTB - 21" Kelsey Hayes split rims

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:06 pm
by Dan Hatch
You are correct. Chevy rims have stem hole in wrong place. Need to drill new one and weld up the old one.

Re: WTB - 21" Kelsey Hayes split rims

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:12 pm
by kmatt2
If I remember correctly, Chevy valve stem to the left (?)and Ford to the right (?) of the split as you look at the wheel. You can weld up and redrill the valve stem holes to switch from Chevy to Ford. That is why Chevy rims have the cut out lug , because the valve stem is close and to help with installing rim on the wheel.
I thought I got it backwards and changed left & right but maybe you fellow is also Chevy. In any case you can redrill to Ford valve stem and the Ford rims don’t have the cut out lug.

Re: WTB - 21" Kelsey Hayes split rims

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:18 pm
by speedytinc
kmatt2 wrote:
Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:12 pm
If I remember correctly, Chevy valve stem to the right and Ford to the left of the split as you look at the wheel. You can weld up and redrill the valve stem holes to switch from Chevy to Ford. That is why Chevy rims have the cut out lug , because the valve stem is close and to help with installing rim on the wheel.
So looking @ the wheel in question, was a chevy fellow used here? Ooops?

Re: WTB - 21" Kelsey Hayes split rims

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:45 pm
by vping
I just went out and checked again. We have 2 Chevy rims and 3 Ford. The rim my son and I just refinished, is the one pictured and was drilled for a Ford valve stem location and the hole welded shut. We were wondering why and this answers our questioning it.

Still on the hunt for new Ford rims and this is a fun learning exercise for me. I love the discovery and trivia!!