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Wolf's Head red grease, opinions
Anyone else use WH red grease ?
Positives/Negatives ?
I have had good results, as chassis lube and wheel bearings. Getting ready to pump my u-joint full of it.
Positives/Negatives ?
I have had good results, as chassis lube and wheel bearings. Getting ready to pump my u-joint full of it.
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Re: Wolf's Head red grease, opinions
any name brand grease will work just dont mix the colors stay with the same stuff. philip
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Re: Wolf's Head red grease, opinions
Pumping the u-joint full of grease is not good. It inevitably forces grease foreward into the engine and transmission where it can possibly cause issues. Many greases do not redily mix with oil and can prevent proper oil flow to bearings. I’ve seen first hand evidence of this on two failed engines that were brought to me for complete overhaul. One was an older rebuild that had a siezed piston pin. There were little specks of grease slung all over around the crankcase. The inside of the brake drum, clutch area, and drive plate were loaded with grease. I believe grease probably got loaded into the wrist pin lube holes and rings and starved it for proper lubrication and/or the inside oil line was plugged with grease. The owner claimed to have put only a couple pumps in a couple times a year, but cumulatively the grease built up until it damaged something. When you fill the u joint housing full of grease then drive your car, the excess grease almost immediately gets forced out the front & rear of the housing and the u-joint immediately forms a track in the grease. What is left over will generally lubricate the u joint just fine for a long time. The original FORD grease cups are an important “engineering feature” of the Model T. They insure that the proper amount of grease is applied at the proper interval.
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Re: Wolf's Head red grease, opinions
Appreciated Adam, it had been a while since I did it and who knows before that. I know the old man was a little lacking on upkeep in the last few years.
I put quite a bit in, but not till it came out.
The red grease stays pretty sticky and I am pretty sure the ball cap is a ball bearing, if that matters.
Everything else is still grease cups.
I put quite a bit in, but not till it came out.
The red grease stays pretty sticky and I am pretty sure the ball cap is a ball bearing, if that matters.
Everything else is still grease cups.
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Re: Wolf's Head red grease, opinions
I know it doesnt mix with oil, I found grease in my screen with the magnet. It had alot of the screen pluged.
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Re: Wolf's Head red grease, opinions
Top of the line stuff. Used it for years and still do. Of course if you misuse it you'll get the results listed above.
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Re: Wolf's Head red grease, opinions
I know this thread has taken a bit of a turn but everything I've been told says to pack the ball around the universal with grease. Supposedly the grease not only lubes the universal but helps prevent the migration of engine oil down the driveshaft to the differential.
Adam, your explanation is well-reasoned so I now I'm not sure which way to go.
Adam, your explanation is well-reasoned so I now I'm not sure which way to go.
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Re: Wolf's Head red grease, opinions
Adam and Others hit a nail square on.
This type of Super High Temp grease does not mix well with conventional motor oils. They use a different binder material thus keeping it more in it's seen state. As far as migrating to the differential 600W is a liquid grease in reality. I use just good ole brown chassis grease myself. To each his own.
All the Best,
Hank
This type of Super High Temp grease does not mix well with conventional motor oils. They use a different binder material thus keeping it more in it's seen state. As far as migrating to the differential 600W is a liquid grease in reality. I use just good ole brown chassis grease myself. To each his own.
All the Best,
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Re: Wolf's Head red grease, opinions
I have some other grease, but I think it has graphite in it.
Is the only reason not to use graphite because of the magneto, or are there bearing problems too ?
Is the only reason not to use graphite because of the magneto, or are there bearing problems too ?
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Re: Wolf's Head red grease, opinions
Dave that's a good question whether or not the polarity would assist in the migration is another. At the engine speed we run on the T's I really do not see any benefit of super high temp grease. Just my two cents. A quick test if you have an extra T magneto magnet and the graphite grease, smear some grease on a paper towel and from the other side attempt to attach the magnet seeing if it is trying to be pulled in (bleeding).
All the Best,
Hank
All the Best,
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Re: Wolf's Head red grease, opinions
I was thinking the thick high temp grease would stay put better...agreed not to over do it.
I have a Ruckstell BTW, so no 600W.
Once I figure out how my locking steering wheel comes off, I plan on using red grease to lube the gear. Lord knows when it was done last.
I have a Ruckstell BTW, so no 600W.
Once I figure out how my locking steering wheel comes off, I plan on using red grease to lube the gear. Lord knows when it was done last.