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T-3456 Park Pawl.

Post by George Hand » Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:49 pm

Parking Pawl striped it's tooth this week, went to check Snyder's Model T because they will not let you order something not in Inventory. So are the T-3456 Pawls the Latest T part made from "unobtainium"? I checked Sunday afternoon, do not believe other parts suppliers will confirm availability online as you Order George

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Re: T-3456 Park Pawl.

Post by Oldav8tor » Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:54 pm

It takes a telephone call to verify if something is available. Some vendors have parts "in the back" that they don't list in their catalogs or online.
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Re: T-3456 Park Pawl.

Post by John kuehn » Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:17 pm

You may already know but Lang’s has lots of good used or NOS parts. They advertise to call and ask. Or they use to.
If you have a good eye and can weld you can build up a worn pawl end. Also Chaffins may have one.
Bobs use to have a supply of older NOS small parts but he may have sold most of his parts that he had.

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Re: T-3456 Park Pawl.

Post by Pep C Strebeck » Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:22 pm

If not available through the regular vendors, here is one from an "alternate" vendor (Ebay). I have no connection to the seller, I only remember seeing it listed.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/154780953684?h ... SwLvFh1M1P
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Re: T-3456 Park Pawl.

Post by Moxie26 » Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:24 pm

The handbrake quadrant usually wears out faster than the handbrake pawl.


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Re: T-3456 Park Pawl.

Post by John kuehn » Sun Feb 27, 2022 5:20 pm

Yes the quadrant will wear faster if you drag the handle back and hear the “ratcheting sound” of the pawl clicking on the quadrant teeth. Pushing on the thumb lever on the handle will slow the wear.

You can look at T frames that have the quadrant really worn and others not so much. The drivers of years ago had different handbrake techniques I guess!


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Re: T-3456 Park Pawl.

Post by nicklm » Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:05 pm

Our 1926 touring needed the quadrant and pawl replaced, i thought. I bought both and went to a workshop for a couple of our clubs here in Florida, and they thought it was easier to bolt the quadrant to the frame after grinding off the rivets (only 2 on the 26) and welding up the worn pawl (as we did not have the rivet to attach it to the lever). The weld was ground down to match the teeth on the quadrant. The quadrant was bolted to the frame and works great. It was required to take the pipe across under the car to each side break rod to be removed and reinstalled. Also. time to oil the pivot point of the pipe thru the frame, that had never been oiled i think. Good for another 90 years. Thank you. Steve, Charley and Phil.

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Re: T-3456 Park Pawl.

Post by TWrenn » Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:28 pm

I got a new pawl this week from them plus a quadrant "for future needs".

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Re: T-3456 Park Pawl.

Post by TRDxB2 » Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:51 pm

The part number for t he pawl is T-3458
Not sure who all you tried but S&J or even Birhaven/Texas T/Fun Projects (they may have one, its something they don't make :? I think)
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Re: T-3456 Park Pawl.

Post by TRDxB2 » Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:55 pm

George Hand wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:49 pm
Parking Pawl striped it's tooth this week, went to check Snyder's Model T because they will not let you order something not in Inventory. So are the T-3456 Pawls the Latest T part made from "unobtainium"? I checked Sunday afternoon, do not believe other parts suppliers will confirm availability online as you Order George
9 available, new, on eBay https://www.ebay.com/itm/154780953684?h ... SwLvFh1M1P
They are selling off the old inventory from the Ford Barn. there will more listings coming
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Re: T-3456 Park Pawl.

Post by Scott_Conger » Sun Feb 27, 2022 10:11 pm

Frank

I've mulled your astute observation some and can only shake my head at the fact that it is a sad situation when a vendor is more likely to have something in stock if they do NOT make it themself.

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Re: T-3456 Park Pawl.

Post by Moxie26 » Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:31 am

John kuehn wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 5:20 pm
Yes the quadrant will wear faster if you drag the handle back and hear the “ratcheting sound” of the pawl clicking on the quadrant teeth. Pushing on the thumb lever on the handle will slow the wear.

You can look at T frames that have the quadrant really worn and others not so much. The drivers of years ago had different handbrake techniques I guess!
Where's the thumb lever ¿?.???


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Re: T-3456 Park Pawl.

Post by Moxie26 » Mon Feb 28, 2022 9:04 am

George Hand wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:49 pm
Parking Pawl striped it's tooth this week, went to check Snyder's Model T because they will not let you order something not in Inventory. So are the T-3456 Pawls the Latest T part made from "unobtainium"? I checked Sunday afternoon, do not believe other parts suppliers will confirm availability online as you Order George
Give a call to your vendors today Monday since most of those are closed on Sunday


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Re: T-3456 Park Pawl.

Post by Allan » Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:06 pm

Before the vendors had RHD panels, I rebuilt originals with weld and oil hardened them.
I'ts not hard to do.
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Re: T-3456 Park Pawl.

Post by Jack Tarlinton » Tue Mar 01, 2022 1:24 am

Allan wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:06 pm
Before the vendors had RHD panels, I rebuilt originals with weld and oil hardened them.
I'ts not hard to do.
Allan from down under.
Hi Allan,

Do you happen to have any spare right hand drive pawls? Mine is not much good and I'd like to replace it.

Best regards

Jack

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