Starr overdrive or two speed ???

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Starr overdrive or two speed ???

Post by Michael Davis » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:38 am

I have a overdrive or two speed model T rear end. It is built by the Starr transmission co. I consider it an overdrive Some call it at two speed. Any information about would be Great.

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Re: Starr overdrive or two speed ???

Post by tmodeldriver » Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:07 am

Hi, Michael. What you have is a Starr Planator two speed auxiliary transmission. Starr is earlier, later built by Jumbo. It is not an overdrive, it is direct and 50% underdrive. Works the same as a Ruckstell axle. Nice accessory.


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Re: Starr overdrive or two speed ???

Post by Michael Davis » Mon Jul 29, 2019 12:59 pm

Thanks. Nice to know

Mike


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Re: Starr overdrive or two speed ???

Post by Michael Davis » Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:04 pm

tmodeldriver Any Idea what year this would be ??


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Re: Starr overdrive or two speed ???

Post by tmodeldriver » Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:31 pm

'Fraid not, Mike. My Starr is in my 27 touring but is obviously a later installation 'cause this would be well after they were being made by Jumbo. Uncle Stan and others are well versed on these things and hopefully will chime in here with some details and perhaps manufacturing dates.


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Re: Starr overdrive or two speed ???

Post by Dallas Landers » Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:33 pm

Looks like after 1923 by the patent plate.

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Re: Starr overdrive or two speed ???

Post by DanTreace » Mon Jul 29, 2019 6:04 pm

Some detail on the Starr on this older thread.

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/59 ... 1476588394
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Re: Starr overdrive or two speed ???

Post by Michael Davis » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:01 pm

Thanks everyone. Lots of info Thanks Now I know what it is. I will probably be listing it on the parts for sale. Forum

Thanks Again

Mike


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Re: Starr overdrive or two speed ???

Post by autoneer » Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:15 pm

I just traded for one of these that was all apart, and was told it was complete. On closer examination after getting it home, and looking on prior threads,its missing the inside brass housings and the input (driveshaft) gear and shaft. There is a good photo of one all apart at the below link. Does anyone have any extra parts for these for sale? Obviously the input gear is the same as a T axle gear so that's no biggie, but the brass housing is another issue. If anyone even has one I could borrow, I could glue a thin piece of plastic on both flanges to account for shrinkage, and get some more cast up. Send me an email autoneer@gmail.com
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Re: Starr overdrive or two speed ???

Post by Michael Davis » Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:26 pm

Again thanks for all the information about this 2 speed. A couple of people have asked what I want for it. I have no idea what it is worth? Can someone give me a ballpark number ?

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Re: Starr overdrive or two speed ???

Post by Dropacent » Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:55 pm

These type questions are always hard to answer. I bought a jumbo planatar last year. By the time I got it home I had less than $500 so pleased with that, however,after taking it apart it had some serious damage. If I had to pay someone a wage to fix it, I would have been way under water , but this stuff is a challenge and labor of love for me. If you cannot assess or guarantee the mechanical condition, it’s like buying a pig in a poke.
I think they are a really neat device but doubt I’d ever buy another one in unknown condition.
It’s similar to the ruckstell or unknown motor question. If you buy one for $500 you could hit a home run( unlikely) or you could have just thrown the money out the window.

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