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Toe in question
How much front end toe in should there be on a 27 with wire wheels?
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Re: Toe in question
Never come agross anything saying other wise, all should be 3/16" to 1/4"
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Re: Toe in question
Toe-in (gather) is the same for all T's. 3/16"--1/4"
On the Improved Car, with lowered spindles, the pitch (camber) will be different (1 15/16") pitch on each front wheel.
Earlier have (1 1/2") pitch on each front wheel, or approx. 3".
The pitch or camber is set by the spindles. Can't be adjusted, and is off only if axle is damaged or spindle body bushings are worn out.
On the Improved Car, with lowered spindles, the pitch (camber) will be different (1 15/16") pitch on each front wheel.
Earlier have (1 1/2") pitch on each front wheel, or approx. 3".
The pitch or camber is set by the spindles. Can't be adjusted, and is off only if axle is damaged or spindle body bushings are worn out.
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Re: Toe in question
Thanks for the information, fellas. I did notice the pitch was more on this car than the earlier cars I ve worked on and wondered about that.
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Re: Toe in question
Sorry -- I can't help myself!
When I saw the title of this all I could think of is a song and dance that starts with the left toe followed by the right toe.
After that you do the arms, Etc.
At the end you jump right in, turn yourself around and do the hoochie koochie.
When I saw the title of this all I could think of is a song and dance that starts with the left toe followed by the right toe.
After that you do the arms, Etc.
At the end you jump right in, turn yourself around and do the hoochie koochie.
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Re: Toe in question
It's The Hooky-Poky, because that's what it's all about!
I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas!
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Re: Toe in question
It's HOKEY POKEY !!
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Re: Toe in question
OH Ya!
Old age is horrible. I am forgetting things.
We did the hoochie koochie by the lake on a summer evening.
Old age is horrible. I am forgetting things.
We did the hoochie koochie by the lake on a summer evening.
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Re: Toe in question
In the Model T Ford Service Manual, Alignment of Front Wheels, fig. 120, section 150 is dimension A greater than dimension B by 1/4 inch?
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Re: Toe in question
The way I set toe in is to put a piece of tape like masking tape in the center of each front wheel. When that tape is perpendicular to the floor which can be determined by using a carpenters framing square. Lay one end on the floor and the other end against the tire. The place where it touches the tire, you make a mark on each side. Then measure the distance between the wheels. Next roll the car forward or backward till the tape is perpendicular to the floor in the back of the wheels. Measure again. Make the adjustment until you get the same measurement both in front and in back. At that point, you have zero toe in. Then lengthen the tie rod just enough to install it in the next position the pin will fit. That should get you within the correct range.
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