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The spark plug controversy
"How many Facebook group members does it take to change a spark plug?
1 to change the spark plug and to post that spark plug has been changed.
14 to share similar experiences of changing spark plugs and how the spark plug could have been changed differently.
7 to caution about the dangers of changing spark plugs.
27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing spark plugs.
15 know-it-alls who claim *they* were in the industry, and that "spark plug" is an electrical device threaded into the cylinder of an internal-combustion engine to ignite the fuel mixture by producing timed sparks between electrodes.
6 to ask what is the correct gap setting.
2 to ask what is a 'feeler gauge'
2 to post that this group is not about spark plugs and to please take this discussion to a spark plug group.
27 to defend the posting to this group saying that we all use spark plugs and therefore the posts *are* relevant to this group.
16 to debate which method of changing spark plugs is superior, where to buy the best spark plugs, what brand of spark plugs work best for this technique, and what brands are faulty.
2 to post URL's where one can see examples of different spark plugs.
12 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot handle the spark plug controversy.
4 to suggest that posters request the spark plugs FAQ.
16 to post wtf.
4 to ask what is a wtf?
4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?"
3 to say "do a Google search on spark plugs before posting questions about spark plugs".
14 to post photos of spark plugs they own.
1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and start it all over again...."
1 to change the spark plug and to post that spark plug has been changed.
14 to share similar experiences of changing spark plugs and how the spark plug could have been changed differently.
7 to caution about the dangers of changing spark plugs.
27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing spark plugs.
15 know-it-alls who claim *they* were in the industry, and that "spark plug" is an electrical device threaded into the cylinder of an internal-combustion engine to ignite the fuel mixture by producing timed sparks between electrodes.
6 to ask what is the correct gap setting.
2 to ask what is a 'feeler gauge'
2 to post that this group is not about spark plugs and to please take this discussion to a spark plug group.
27 to defend the posting to this group saying that we all use spark plugs and therefore the posts *are* relevant to this group.
16 to debate which method of changing spark plugs is superior, where to buy the best spark plugs, what brand of spark plugs work best for this technique, and what brands are faulty.
2 to post URL's where one can see examples of different spark plugs.
12 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot handle the spark plug controversy.
4 to suggest that posters request the spark plugs FAQ.
16 to post wtf.
4 to ask what is a wtf?
4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?"
3 to say "do a Google search on spark plugs before posting questions about spark plugs".
14 to post photos of spark plugs they own.
1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and start it all over again...."
The inevitable often happens.
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Re: The spark plug controversy
The best way is always the simplest. The attics of the world are cluttered up with complicated failures. Henry Ford
Don’t find fault, find a remedy; anybody can complain. Henry Ford
Don’t find fault, find a remedy; anybody can complain. Henry Ford
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Re: The spark plug controversy
Boy! Is that the truth!
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Re: The spark plug controversy
Steve,
You have very articulately described the reasons I am NOT on Facebook.
You have very articulately described the reasons I am NOT on Facebook.
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Facebook ? LOL ... that sequence happens here on the Forum for certain topics! Thanks Steve. Reminds me of a series of line drawings my father had of the evolution of marketing a rope swing. He was in advertising.
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Re: The spark plug controversy
Better not ask about oil.
That is why I am not on FaceBook.
That is why I am not on FaceBook.
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Re: The spark plug controversy
Be sure to clean out the area of the head around the sparkplug so dirt doesn't go down into the cylinder when you remove the sparkplug. Also remove the nut holding on the wire and place it away from the head so it doesn't fall in. Don't break off the spark plug in the head when you try to remove it. etc. etc. etc.
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Re: The spark plug controversy
A literary "allusion" no doubt.
The past is a great place and I don't want to erase it or to regret it, but I don't want to be its prisoner either.
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Re: The spark plug controversy
Looks like about a 30’ gap will do...
My wife spends time regularly in Facebook Jail, I do not participate !
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Re: The spark plug controversy
You have very articulately described the reasons I am NOT on Facebook.
Guess where I found it.
The inevitable often happens.
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Modern Media with Technology..., Hummmm, I will take the beatings at the ole' skool.
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Steve: Are the 27 defenders the same 27 who correct grammar and spelling, etc? If so, I'd say you are doing well with this interested group of people who want the information and are also willing to spend their valuable time to make you a better writer. Keep the sparkplug posts coming! jb
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Re: The spark plug controversy
1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and start it all over again...."
LOL
On one forum I look at, people do that all the time. Pull up a string that is like 2 years old then ask a question that has nothing to do with the title! Of course the helper type say start their own string, others don't even bother to look at the date and add more info because they can or think it will help, of course none of the NEW info answers the new question that has nothing to do with the original question in the first place.
LOL
On one forum I look at, people do that all the time. Pull up a string that is like 2 years old then ask a question that has nothing to do with the title! Of course the helper type say start their own string, others don't even bother to look at the date and add more info because they can or think it will help, of course none of the NEW info answers the new question that has nothing to do with the original question in the first place.
I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas!
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Re: The spark plug controversy
.......I thought Spark Plug was a horse!
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Re: The spark plug controversy
I mounted the coils direct to the cylinder head and eliminated the spark plugs and wires altogether.
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Re: The spark plug controversy
Am I logged on to the MTFCA Forum or Facebook
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Re: The spark plug controversy
This looks like Steve is bored and needs a new project LOL Cheers from the getting more snow great white north.
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Re: The spark plug controversy
I dont do facebook and I refuse to get into this discussion . Everone knows the easiest way is to remove the head to really inspect or change the spark plugs!
Oops.
Oops.
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Well I had some time so I visited Facebook. I didn't find my way into it very far and decided I didn't need the aggravation.
We often like to find the fascicles in the way others look at and respond to things. I try not to impose my wisdom as things that work for me often seem odd to others. I'm fairly sure my spark plugs will still work even if I don't investigate this further.
As Kalamity Dick said "Better Late than Sorry".
We often like to find the fascicles in the way others look at and respond to things. I try not to impose my wisdom as things that work for me often seem odd to others. I'm fairly sure my spark plugs will still work even if I don't investigate this further.
As Kalamity Dick said "Better Late than Sorry".
When did I do that?
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Steve just needs to be playing with his TT.I have not saw any post related to it in a long time.
speaking of plugs,these were pulled from the head of the 26 I am working on now back in 07 or so when I first got it.
speaking of plugs,these were pulled from the head of the 26 I am working on now back in 07 or so when I first got it.
If you can't help em, don't hinder em'
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Someone got their money's worth out of those didn't they?
When did I do that?
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Re: The spark plug controversy
It was told to me that the car was parked still in running condition in 1945 when the owner was drafted.He came home to find the body,and radiator missing and it sat right where it was parked until sometime in 06 when it was sold to a club member for 20 dollars.He only wanted the steering wheel,which he later found he could not get off of the column,so he gave me the whole shibang when he sold the building it was stored behind. You could say he got his moneys worth out of the tires to.
If you can't help em, don't hinder em'
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I Joined FaceBook years ago to look at a picture of a model T that was for sale.
I haven't logged in since and have been trying for years to figure out how to de register.
I haven't logged in since and have been trying for years to figure out how to de register.
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Re: The spark plug controversy
Bar-rney Goo-ogle, with his goo- goo- googley eyes!
My Linda has signed up for facebook a couple of times because of something family does, gets mad at facebook and the way they do things, and tries to "un-join". They do make it tough. She signed me up for it about ten years ago. In those days, our internet could handle them (not anymore!) I never bothered to "un-join". I guess it must still be there? I don't much care. They keep sending me reminders of some friend's birthdays and such. But I haven't been able to use it on our "not quite a DSL" internet connection for quite a few years now.
My Linda has signed up for facebook a couple of times because of something family does, gets mad at facebook and the way they do things, and tries to "un-join". They do make it tough. She signed me up for it about ten years ago. In those days, our internet could handle them (not anymore!) I never bothered to "un-join". I guess it must still be there? I don't much care. They keep sending me reminders of some friend's birthdays and such. But I haven't been able to use it on our "not quite a DSL" internet connection for quite a few years now.