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This was trucking-Old Photos
I at one time had a book entitle "This Was Trucking" I just about read the ink off of the pages.
I thought that it might be fun to post some photos of trucks similar to the ones that were in that book.
Her are a few.
I thought that it might be fun to post some photos of trucks similar to the ones that were in that book.
Her are a few.
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Does anyone else have any photos to share?
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It is one of my favorite books too. The guys who drove those were some tough characters to navigate the roads they had back then. A wonderful Lady at White Motor Co. sent me a couple dozen truck photos when I was researching my YPC Bus. Here are a few of them.
Nice idea Herb!When did I do that?
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Heavy haulers for sure. Can you imagine the bone jarring ride these could deliver empty? Keep em coming, I like trucks.
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Another one:
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Wouldnt it be fun to find one of those? I would have the cleanest shop floor!
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About ten years ago, I had a job assignment in the Seattle area and during off hours,
would cruise around to old haunts. One such revisit was an early teens White flatbed
that hid behind some buildings, unvisible to anyone who might pass by. Sure enough,
it was still there, and just like on the previous 40 tries, I was told it was not for sale.
I took some photos and there it rots. When I first saw it in the 1960's, it looked like
it could be fired up and driven anywhere. The wood C-cab was beautiful and ornate.
The last time I saw it, there was no longer any paint showing, the cab had all but crumbled
around the frame. But that familiar White hood/radiator and those big headlights still
begged someone to give the owner a folding chair shampoo and take it home and save
it from becoming nothing more than a dirt lump.
would cruise around to old haunts. One such revisit was an early teens White flatbed
that hid behind some buildings, unvisible to anyone who might pass by. Sure enough,
it was still there, and just like on the previous 40 tries, I was told it was not for sale.
I took some photos and there it rots. When I first saw it in the 1960's, it looked like
it could be fired up and driven anywhere. The wood C-cab was beautiful and ornate.
The last time I saw it, there was no longer any paint showing, the cab had all but crumbled
around the frame. But that familiar White hood/radiator and those big headlights still
begged someone to give the owner a folding chair shampoo and take it home and save
it from becoming nothing more than a dirt lump.
More people are doing it today than ever before !
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The book "This Was Trucking" contained several pictures by Darius Kinsey, a noted photographer of the period. He spent some amount of time in the Pacific Northwest documenting the logging industry. Here are two of those pictures. I think that the trucks may be Morgans.
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These pictures are of a few more heavy haulers of the period.
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These pictures are of a few more heavy haulers of the period.
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Darius Kinsey lived and had a studio in Sedro-Wooley, Washington. He made
a career of traveling to logging operations and taking photos, which he sold to
loggers and other staff. He was unique in this, and his photos document an
amazing slice of NW history.
Kinsey's wife Tabitha did much of the work at the studio in support of the
work Darius did in the field.
a career of traveling to logging operations and taking photos, which he sold to
loggers and other staff. He was unique in this, and his photos document an
amazing slice of NW history.
Kinsey's wife Tabitha did much of the work at the studio in support of the
work Darius did in the field.
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One of my favorites is this utility body built on a White chassis:
and this one
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Call me a "bigot", but I totally discriminate between the later truck with those
"ugly" rounded "Model A" fenders and that super-sexy earlier truck with the fenders,
as God meant fenders to be !
"ugly" rounded "Model A" fenders and that super-sexy earlier truck with the fenders,
as God meant fenders to be !
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Fantastic photos! Gotta love old trucks.
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Herb, I bet the side mount boxes on the Kroager storage truck is full of oul and cans of grease to keep that beast running trouble free. Great photos guys.
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These are from a 1913 Baker Electric catalog. They were located in Cleveland.
There seemed to be a thriving market for electric truck at that time.When did I do that?
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These surprised me. I had seen pictures of the large electric trucks and the cars but not these little guys.
What would one be worth today?When did I do that?
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I'm not sure what that one is. The spotlight and bare front forks is an interesting option.
It's an splendid pose isn't it?
It's an splendid pose isn't it?
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The pictures of the Baker electric trucks reminded me of this:
https://www.thedrive.com/sheetmetal/178 ... k-for-sale
apparently it was built in 1912 and used right up to the mid60's
the cab is an addition done somewhere around the end of its working life judging by the style and looks like it was put on without much modification to the original open 'cab' so could be easily reversed.
Anyone knows where it ended up ?
https://www.thedrive.com/sheetmetal/178 ... k-for-sale
apparently it was built in 1912 and used right up to the mid60's
the cab is an addition done somewhere around the end of its working life judging by the style and looks like it was put on without much modification to the original open 'cab' so could be easily reversed.
Anyone knows where it ended up ?
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A couple aren't that old but interesting
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A few more photos
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the frist pic in this post is a f.w.d. ww1 vintage. i have one in my pile of junk.charley
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I see an electric tail light. Oul light is probably not a good idea on this one!
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I had not thought about the kerosene tail light problem. Oil lights on trucks were the norm well into the twenties.
Here are some more Whites. Note the White logo on the boxcar.
Here are some more Whites. Note the White logo on the boxcar.
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The McPhaile fuel truck that Pairy keet posted,It appears to be a TT, BUT look at that dropped axle on the front.Never saw that on a TT. What would have been the advantage?
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its a tt but heavy duty see springs in back,frame rail extension .heavy tires & wheels.charley
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it looks like the house in this one needs painting (Wink wink).
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Yes but look at the pride. Flowers in the box and tended ivy on on the porch. I really loke the top on the TT.
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Yes Herb, those old houses are inviting and what a great photo.
Here is another Electric. It makes me want to work for Peabody. Not a bad house in the background there either.
Here is another Electric. It makes me want to work for Peabody. Not a bad house in the background there either.
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Nice! And a fold up visor to keep the rain off your knees!
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This one looks like an Avery on the side.
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I see that "AVERY" just like that on several old photos and a recent one of an unrestored one. Several other features like the cog tires and bucket seats far apart are very similar. That is a great addition to this fantastic thread. I haven't run across my "This is Trucking" yet. I think Avery is in there too.
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How about one from the Pancho Villa expedition.
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The radiator guards are disguising White trucks in that photo. They are probably Model 20s previously purchased for WWI. A variety of other vehicles were used for the expedition including FWDs and Harley Davidson Motorcycles. The hood profile, fenders, dash/floorboard supports and even the spark/gas control quadrants are unmistakably "White". (ref the "White" photos above)
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=====================Rich Eagle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:53 amThe radiator guards are disguising White trucks in that photo. They are probably Model 20s previously purchased for WWI. A variety of other vehicles were used for the expedition including FWDs and Harley Davidson Motorcycles. The hood profile, fenders, dash/floorboard supports and even the spark/gas control quadrants are unmistakably "White". (ref the "White" photos above)
Just picking nits here, but the Pancho Villa expedition was 1916, predating U.S. involvement in WW1
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My mistake, thanks for the correction.
Great Firetruck. You could see in the second story from the driver's seat.
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Great Firetruck. You could see in the second story from the driver's seat.
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Buick made a 2-cyl truck that looked very much like the one on the right. Even the one on the left has a radiator similar to some of the 4-cyl Buicks. Someone will surely have a better guess.
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the one on the left could be a overland.charley
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A Republic I believe.
Great pose and a single headlamp. I'll bet there's a story there.
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/jacksnell707/6246711697
Great pose and a single headlamp. I'll bet there's a story there.
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/jacksnell707/6246711697
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I concur. The one above looks like it has solid rubber tires.
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Yep! A nice looking Avery on Feb 1st! I've wiggled into a '12 (I think). Beautiful trucks with their wooden plugs in the wheels and plush looking upholstery but not very user friendly for anyone around 6 feet tall. Look out for the fan, they like to spit a blade out Avery now and then...
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This shows a similar existing Avery truck. It shows the wide seat spread and those cog wheels.
https://iowa80truckingmuseum.com/exhibi ... ylinder/1/
If you Goggle Avery truck several other images of that same truck come up.
Interesting.
https://iowa80truckingmuseum.com/exhibi ... ylinder/1/
If you Goggle Avery truck several other images of that same truck come up.
Interesting.
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the ice& coal truck could be a maxwell looking at the rad shell.i know they made some large trucks. charley
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I believe that is correct Charley. The radiator shell and hood are identical to my 1915 Maxwell Model 25 down to the lower mounts. It probably has the same engine but everything else looks beefier. The second truck in the Photo is also a Maxwell. It looks like a Model T windshield.
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Rich if you mean the second truck in the same picture, I agree.
The second picture, I believe is a TT, sure looks like a T transmission and wishbone under there.
The second picture, I believe is a TT, sure looks like a T transmission and wishbone under there.
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The vineyard truck looks like a REO, but not really. There are a few inconsistencies.
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I think it is another of those Buick trucks. The second photo looks like a Packard.
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i spent 10 years in so, calf. in the late 60 and 70s there were a lot of these big trucks siting on farms.this one of course is about a 1915 packard. charley
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I think you are right about the vineyard truck being a Buick.
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FWIW here are some chassis shots.
I haven't seen many of these. One was at a 1&2 cyl tour in the 70s. They called it a "Plumbers Truck". It uses the same engine as the model F and Gs and the steering controls like a '08 -'10. The Weston-Mott rear axle is moved from the rear wheels to drive the rear wheels by chains.
This was taken in McCall, ID.
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A few years back, when I was last able to go to the Bakersfield meet, there was one of those Buick trucks there. I have seen it pictured in the Gazette a few times, and was listed for sale for some time after I saw it. It was a beautiful restoration and ran quite well!
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thanks to JIm Thode I have this picture of my granfathers wreck.He was driving a chain drive Mack and the train took the trailer off!
The paper says the truck stalled.Being Moss was a big company,the news paper probably said that to help with insurance.Truth is,the track was between 2 long brick mill buildings,curved,when grandpal crossed,the train was not visable until he was half way across.He bailed out of the cab!
Of course the damned ol train was able to go right along it's merry way shortly therafter!
Moss trucking is the same company that moved Tweetsie the train to the mountians back years ago.My grandfather and his brother Boyd-worked there.Boyd built some of the specialized trailers they used because they were not common back then as they are now.
The paper says the truck stalled.Being Moss was a big company,the news paper probably said that to help with insurance.Truth is,the track was between 2 long brick mill buildings,curved,when grandpal crossed,the train was not visable until he was half way across.He bailed out of the cab!
Of course the damned ol train was able to go right along it's merry way shortly therafter!
Moss trucking is the same company that moved Tweetsie the train to the mountians back years ago.My grandfather and his brother Boyd-worked there.Boyd built some of the specialized trailers they used because they were not common back then as they are now.
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thats a liberty also usa,there were some of them in joplin.charley
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These specialty trucks are on display at the World Museum of Mining in Butte, MT. I don't know their propose but someone will. (I guess I should have read the plaques.)
When I mentioned I had been there my friend Bill asked if I had seen the welder his Father had built with a Buick Six engine. I had.
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The first two pix read B.A.&P. on the side. This was a Butte, Ananconda, & Pacific Ry.
It ran between the two former names, hauling ore from the mines to the smelter. It was
an electric RR and this truck serviced the catenary. The second truck is a pole setter,
used by power and phone companies. The paint suggests this is also a BA&P truck too ?
It ran between the two former names, hauling ore from the mines to the smelter. It was
an electric RR and this truck serviced the catenary. The second truck is a pole setter,
used by power and phone companies. The paint suggests this is also a BA&P truck too ?
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That Buick Six grew an extra two cilinders in the years since the build
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This one has a lot to look at. I think it is quite the classic pose.
Can you say what the truch is being loaded?
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Behing the trucks looks like shocks of possible wheat or oats. Quite a nice photo of harvest time with the trucks, tractor, threshing machine and auto. Really like this one!
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That is a fantastic photo Herb.
A Chevy truck in the foreground? Perhaps a TT behind the Chevy? The view of the cab is partially blocked by someone in white.
I can't tell which of the two is being loaded. Perhaps the far truck?
One guy pitching bundles. Could be barley, rye or flax too. Dad was raised to "grow a little flax also" but he was a carpenter.
He taught me what he knew but I work best with steel and iron. THAT's already "square". That wagon is LOADED and the pitcher misses the feeder. That must be why they say one man pitching is a heckuva lot of work. A fella out in South Dakota said barley was really itchy.
Look at the rear wheels on the ?McCormick-Deering 10-20? These days we might call them parade rings! Road rings then?
I'm thinking IH as we can see the right hand clutch pedal across the platform. ?
I see 5 people. You?
Good thing I don't staccato type for all of these fantastic photos! I was gonna go-off on the Baker trucks since they are far simpler/far cooler than the modern 80 Volt electric's (my baby's) at work. No "computer"/no AC converter. Just simple. I'd bet a cold beer or good cup of joe that those old Bakers went about as far on a charge...
Very cool thread. Very cool.
A Chevy truck in the foreground? Perhaps a TT behind the Chevy? The view of the cab is partially blocked by someone in white.
I can't tell which of the two is being loaded. Perhaps the far truck?
One guy pitching bundles. Could be barley, rye or flax too. Dad was raised to "grow a little flax also" but he was a carpenter.
He taught me what he knew but I work best with steel and iron. THAT's already "square". That wagon is LOADED and the pitcher misses the feeder. That must be why they say one man pitching is a heckuva lot of work. A fella out in South Dakota said barley was really itchy.
Look at the rear wheels on the ?McCormick-Deering 10-20? These days we might call them parade rings! Road rings then?
I'm thinking IH as we can see the right hand clutch pedal across the platform. ?
I see 5 people. You?
Good thing I don't staccato type for all of these fantastic photos! I was gonna go-off on the Baker trucks since they are far simpler/far cooler than the modern 80 Volt electric's (my baby's) at work. No "computer"/no AC converter. Just simple. I'd bet a cold beer or good cup of joe that those old Bakers went about as far on a charge...
Very cool thread. Very cool.
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Just in case you don't know, you can click on the photos and they will become larger and show more detail. The one with the tractor becomes more detailed for me.
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Definitely Ford power but I don't recognize the hubs. Maybe REO or Republic truck rear end?
The passengers look moderately pleased to be included.
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The passengers look moderately pleased to be included.
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that one is shaft drive,i think one of the attachments was shaft drive?? charley
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Yes, perhaps the Tonford. This has that rounded hubcap. (after some more searching)
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right on rich. thanks charley
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Wow, Hadn't been here .
Great collection of working photos
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24-28 TA race car, 26 Canadian touring, 25 Roadster pickup, 14 Roadster, and 11AB Maxwell runabout
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Would like to see it without the decorations.
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Thanks again Herb for picking something I can identify. I believe it is one of these. The floorboard riser and controls on the steering quadrant were much the same throughout White's early production. Also the running board brackets are the same as the ones I cleaned and painted for my '23 Bus.
The wheels, hubcaps and drive all seem to match. However the lack of a wraparound channel frame front may make it a different model or variation.
They certainly did disguise it didn't they?
The wheels, hubcaps and drive all seem to match. However the lack of a wraparound channel frame front may make it a different model or variation.
They certainly did disguise it didn't they?
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yes i can see the shock on the side of the rad.if i remember right the frt bumper wes bolted on. i dont see side levers.i had one and parts long ago. charley
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Good point Charley. I wonder if the photo was reversed and why the levers don't show. This is a later version of the floor risers with the White script. The front section may have been riveted but does look to be separate. This one also has a sprung radiator rather that the typical shocks. The screen side hood rather that louvers is a novelty too. They made thousands of those trucks and many survived the scrap drives but don't show up today like they did in the 60s and 70s.
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A little related drift:
This thread brings back a vivid memory. When I was a kid we had a neighbor who was a trucker. He started trucking in the 1920's and continued until retirement in the early 1970's. One day he was helping my dad and me load some stuff on Dad's pickup. I was very unsuccessfully trying to tie the load down. He laughed and said, "Pay attention", and taught me to tie a "truckers hitch". I use that knot to this day, often to the surprise of younger folks.
I bet knowing that knot was a job requirement for most of the guys in these photos. I imagine today only a small percentage of truckers would even know what we're talking about.
This thread brings back a vivid memory. When I was a kid we had a neighbor who was a trucker. He started trucking in the 1920's and continued until retirement in the early 1970's. One day he was helping my dad and me load some stuff on Dad's pickup. I was very unsuccessfully trying to tie the load down. He laughed and said, "Pay attention", and taught me to tie a "truckers hitch". I use that knot to this day, often to the surprise of younger folks.
I bet knowing that knot was a job requirement for most of the guys in these photos. I imagine today only a small percentage of truckers would even know what we're talking about.
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the sigen is ok, if it was reversed the letters would be backwards.charley
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Sure appears to be RHD to me ?
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Right hand drive would explain it. I haven't ever seen evidence any were made even thought thousands were sent to Europe for the war and various enterprises. I did run across this: "A low Number right hand drive 1909/1910 White (GA 135 on Motor)....purchased from Bill Harrah in 1967. (2017)
https://forums.aaca.org/topic/295909-19 ... -projects/
So it does stand to reason some could have been made.
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So it does stand to reason some could have been made.
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Hey there Henry P ! Yeah, that trucker's hitch is a marvel! An Italian friend of mine saw me tying a load down one day and called it a "farmer's" hitch. Guess it just depends on who and what one grew up around. My dad taught me how to do one, said it was one of the most important knots to learn. I use it more than anything except a square knot, even more than a bowline (which I use often!).
Many years ago, I offered to help load a car that wasn't running onto a friend's trailer. He didn't have any sort of winch, come-along, pulleys, nothing. I happened to have about a hundred feet of 3/8 inch polypropylene rope in my truck from a tower job I had done earlier. There was NO way the two of us were going to push that dead weight up the trailer ramps. So I said hold on a minute, grabbed my rope, and laced about four trucker's hitches (like pulleys, but not quite as effective) to achieve a multiple purchase. Took a bunch of rope, and I had to re-lace it a couple times. But I alone pulled that car right up the ramps while my friend watched, totally stunned.
Many years ago, I offered to help load a car that wasn't running onto a friend's trailer. He didn't have any sort of winch, come-along, pulleys, nothing. I happened to have about a hundred feet of 3/8 inch polypropylene rope in my truck from a tower job I had done earlier. There was NO way the two of us were going to push that dead weight up the trailer ramps. So I said hold on a minute, grabbed my rope, and laced about four trucker's hitches (like pulleys, but not quite as effective) to achieve a multiple purchase. Took a bunch of rope, and I had to re-lace it a couple times. But I alone pulled that car right up the ramps while my friend watched, totally stunned.
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I would guess a Republic on that one. It looks like it is earning it's pay.
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Might as well plug my favorite brand! Twin City.
“Built to do the work not to meet the price.”
Minneapolis Steel and Machinery.
The 2 ton truck used a 4 x 5-1/2 Buda engine.
The 3-1/2 ton truck used the same four cylinder, twin cam, 16 valve, 4-1/4 x 6, 340 cu. in. engine as the
12-20 and 17-28 tractors.
A pair of 1928 17-28‘s (10 serials apart) live here. About a handful of trucks exist.
“Built to do the work not to meet the price.”
Minneapolis Steel and Machinery.
The 2 ton truck used a 4 x 5-1/2 Buda engine.
The 3-1/2 ton truck used the same four cylinder, twin cam, 16 valve, 4-1/4 x 6, 340 cu. in. engine as the
12-20 and 17-28 tractors.
A pair of 1928 17-28‘s (10 serials apart) live here. About a handful of trucks exist.
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I believe the photo above is another Republic Truck.
This is a FWD. Charley says late teens. FWD "was founded in 1909 in Clintonville, Wisconsin, as the Badger Four-Wheel Drive Auto Company by Otto Zachow and William Besserdich." The Nash Quad was a similar four wheel drive truck.
This is a FWD. Charley says late teens. FWD "was founded in 1909 in Clintonville, Wisconsin, as the Badger Four-Wheel Drive Auto Company by Otto Zachow and William Besserdich." The Nash Quad was a similar four wheel drive truck.
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Rich, the truck is a FWD model B, of First World War fame, many were used for all kinds of jobs after being sold of as surplus after the war. The Nash Quad, (first the Jeffrey Quad) also had four wheel steering !
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A short history of the Jeffrey/Nash through the years from the first inventions by Mr. Jeffrey, I never knew he was a big inventor cum businessman before the Quad, never too old to learn
Another fun fact: his top salesman was a Mr Willys.... yes of later Willys Jeep fame, he made so much money selling Jeffreys stuff that he was able to buy the Overland company lock stock and barrel and start his own business !
found it on allpar.com
https://www.allpar.com/SUVs/jeep/jeffery-quad.html
Another fun fact: his top salesman was a Mr Willys.... yes of later Willys Jeep fame, he made so much money selling Jeffreys stuff that he was able to buy the Overland company lock stock and barrel and start his own business !
found it on allpar.com
https://www.allpar.com/SUVs/jeep/jeffery-quad.html
When in trouble, do not fear, blame the second engineer !
Leo van Stirum, Netherlands
'23 Huckster, '66 CJ5 daily driver
Leo van Stirum, Netherlands
'23 Huckster, '66 CJ5 daily driver