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side curtains 1927 runabout pickup

Post by infotfordnl » Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:10 pm

Does somebody have pictures and details from side curtains for a 1927 runabout pickup.

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Re: side curtains 1927 runabout pickup

Post by DanTreace » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:32 pm

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Re: side curtains 1927 runabout pickup

Post by Original Smith » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:30 am

Pickup and roadster are the same. I'm wondering about Dan's photo above. I didn't know they put a flap on the RH side. Is this something the owner did?


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Re: side curtains 1927 runabout pickup

Post by Humblej » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:47 am

Curtain opens with door, do not know how you could reach the door handle without a flap.

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Post by DanTreace » Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:00 pm

Larry is correct the original curtains on the runabout/runabout pickup only have signaling flap or toll paying ;) flap on driver's side!

Passenger side didn't have one, the new curtains are from the old Carter's Cut and Cover Shop, and he put them on both sides, good for use anyway.

The attached pdf file contains sketch/ with dimensions, of the curtains for the '26-'27 runabout made from original pieces. See the note that no flap on passenger side. And see photo of original curtain on passenger side, no flap, but as the curtains fit loose at the door , and there are no snaps on the lower edge of the curtain, easy to lift the lower curtain edge and grasp the door latch!

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Re: side curtains 1927 runabout pickup

Post by Humblej » Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:51 pm

Nice picture Dan, that clears it up.

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Re: side curtains 1927 runabout pickup

Post by Mark Nunn » Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:16 pm

The shape of the window in the rear panel as shown in drawing matches the shape seen in this 1935 photo. The lead photo is different.
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Post by Original Smith » Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:23 pm

The small window (light) as Ford called it on the front side curtains is the same size as that on the rear curtain on a '25. I assume that is the case on a 1926 as well?
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Re: side curtains 1927 runabout pickup

Post by Original Smith » Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:25 pm

I failed to mention, I made these side curtains, as well as the top from the original Ford drawings.

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Re: side curtains 1927 runabout pickup

Post by infotfordnl » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:59 pm

I bought side curtains from Lang
Looks very good and fit also very good
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Can someone tell me how the origional connection is of the backpart of the side curtain
I have this on my T
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The clips are round and aprox. 11mm in diameter
The rear side curtaine should be between
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Re: side curtains 1927 runabout pickup

Post by Original Smith » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:51 pm

I'm glad the pictures of original side curtains were posted. As you can see, they are different from Carters. Also Ford did not use lift the dot fasteners.
They used Anzo fasteners, which are getting difficult to find these days.


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Re: side curtains 1927 runabout pickup

Post by Jim, Sr. » Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:29 am

Even though this NOS side curtain is labeled for 1925, I think that it is actually for 1926-27 roadsters. The "sockets" that are installed inside the rear top bows on 1926-27 roadsters and tourings must have the extra lip to project through the grommets on the rear side curtains. ( I think Larry Smith identifies these as ANZO fasteners.) A similar "socket" without the lip is used on the body panel between the doors on 1926-27 tourings and also on the doors of most 1927 roadsters and tourings. If you use the socket without the lip on the inside of the rear top bow, the fasteners that are crimped onto the rear curtain will not snap into the socket when the side curtains are installed. That lip is to allow for the thickness of the grommets in the side curtains when it is "sandwiched" between the top bow and the rear curtain where it wraps around the back and fastens to the top bow. I think this type fastener is only used on the 1926-27 Model T's, but maybe it was used on Model A's, too. I don't know. See the photos of the sockets an how the grommet fits snug on that lip. The grommets have to be installed quite accurately in the side curtains to match the sockets.
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Post by Jim, Sr. » Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:32 am

More photos.
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Post by infotfordnl » Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:22 pm

Thanks, now I know mine are origional, but who can deliver me this round holes Parts? The rings
Lang?
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Re: side curtains 1927 runabout pickup

Post by Alan Long » Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:25 am

Don’t forget us Aussies and our friends in NZ and Canada with RHD!!! We need the RH opening 😀👍
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Re: side curtains 1927 runabout pickup

Post by Original Smith » Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:44 am

I've seen those mis-labeled 26 curtains before. Owning a 1925, I've received 26 curtains before, and have not been able to use them. 1925 & 26 owners, take note! Thanks for posting Jim!

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