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Lift-a-dot nos?

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:06 am
by FATMAN
Looking through some old boxes and found some of these but not like re pros, are these lift-o-dot in original forum ? Bob

Re: Lift-a-dot nos?

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 2:48 pm
by FATMAN
Anyone have one to compare? Bob

Re: Lift-a-dot nos?

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:01 pm
by Allan
I doubt they are lift-a-dots. They may have been made by the same company, but they are definitely for a different application. About the only difference I have seen in lift-a-dots is the spacing of the prongs and the backing plates on the female receivers. There were some round ones made early on, but they may have been made by others, and made that way to get around trade marks/patents.

Allan from down under.

Re: Lift-a-dot nos?

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:19 pm
by TRDxB2

Re: Lift-a-dot nos?

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:33 pm
by Allan
Modern common sense fasteners have the legend "dot" on the squared-off end of the turn buckle, which suggests they are made by the same makers as lift-the- dots. However, that does not make them lift-the-dots. Lift the dots have that legend stamped into the face of the female receive
Allan from down under.

Re: Lift-a-dot nos?

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:42 am
by DanTreace
Looking through some old boxes and found some of these but not like re pros, are these lift-o-dot in original
Bob

Those pieces are the male portion of an ANZO fastener, (also known in the old time trade as 'glove' fasteners) those were used on the earlier Model T side curtains, that threaded post is placed in the top iron, and the fabric received a split like cup as the curtain retainer. Used on the 1923 One Man tops until the Improved Car in 1926.

Nice find, they are not made anymore so good to have some of those for others to use.


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Re: Lift-a-dot nos?

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 9:13 am
by DanTreace
By the way, all these type curtain and top fasteners were made and patented by Carr. They supplied the industry, the ANZO style was patented and trademarked in 1920 and they also made the Lift-the-Dot, that became the most popular, as it was easy to use and lasted.

Most twenties cars used Lift the Dots, and same is in use even today. The ANZO fell off, but think it was still used in military up to WWII. Probably because it may have been cheaper than the Dots, for Ford waited until 1926 to begin using Lift-the Dots! Of course Ford also used the earlier Common Sense fastener that Carr also made.



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Re: Lift-a-dot nos?

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:02 am
by Original Smith
Those were screwed to the top sockets on late T's. Three on each side. They mate up to the Anzo fasteners posted earlier.