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1914 spare tire carrier

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:30 pm
by Steve King
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Brought this double spare tire carrier yesterday for $40 for my 1914 touring. Assuming that it is correct because it has a narrower spot for the 3" and wider for 3.5" spare. Are there any brackets I'm missing? On my survivor car, you can see where one used to be attached to the top side of the drivers false door. I'm sure it was a different brand from this one.

Re: 1914 spare tire carrier

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:32 pm
by Steve King
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Another shot of the double carrier.

Re: 1914 spare tire carrier

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:33 pm
by Steve King
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Last shot of the 14 carrier

Re: 1914 spare tire carrier

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:01 pm
by Rich Eagle
WOW! Great find. I would think it would have brackets front and rear to support it. There are some holes for them.
Here are some similar ones that show their supports.
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/80 ... 1234713993

Re: 1914 spare tire carrier

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 2:10 pm
by Rich Eagle
Here it is Steve. I believe this has "Adjusting Bolts" just like yours. Its rear support bracket looks to be mounted by the three holes your pictures show on the left-hand side.
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The illustration even looks like a '14 T.
Sadly, the price went up in recent years. :lol:
Rich

Re: 1914 spare tire carrier

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 2:12 pm
by Steve Jelf
That's a swell thing. The one I made is attached to the carrier for the running board cans and holds the two spares above the cans.

Re: 1914 spare tire carrier

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 2:30 pm
by Rich Eagle
This discussion shows the same kind. Simplex?
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/59 ... 1474380711

Re: 1914 spare tire carrier

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:10 pm
by Randy Mock
Sorry
Limited parking.
I will try to get better pictures soon.

Re: 1914 spare tire carrier

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 2:26 am
by Wayne Sheldon
All of those were after-market items during those years! So there is a lot of variation in brands, styles, and quality, as well as where and how they were to be mounted.
That looks like a really good one!
A lot of that type had a simple metal belt loop that mounted near the top of the fake door for a leather belt to loop through and around the outside of the tires. Something simple and easily made of of a scrap of strap steel. Others simply used gravity or a belt or metal bracket over the inside of the tire to hold the tires down inside the cradle.

Re: 1914 spare tire carrier

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:27 am
by Allan
On our 4 door cars, it makes sense to fit the spare at the tear just like the later models. The best mounting I have seen was really simple it was made of 1/2" Steel rod. To a circle of approx.25"diameter, two arms were added to link it to the L shaped arms that carry the top saddles, and a third arm allowed the bottom of the circle to be attached to the underside of the body.

The saddle end arms of the two top mounting arms had simple eyes.The saddle L arms had a black smithed flattened section drilled to take a bolt to fasten the eyes. The bottom arm had a small plate to take two large wood screws.

Two spare tyres could easily be carried, strapped to the carrier with leather straps.

Allan from down under.

Re: 1914 spare tire carrier

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:32 am
by Steve King
Think I will mount the carrier on the running board since you don't exit the car on the drivers side anyway. If you mount spares in the rear you make the car longer. Might make a difference between hauling 2 T's versus 1 in my enclosed trailer because I DIDN'T make the car longer. However I could concede that a spare at the back might protect the car's body if you bumped something

Re: 1914 spare tire carrier

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 10:59 am
by Plankhill
Steve That looks like the one I have on my 16.

Re: 1914 spare tire carrier

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:27 am
by got10carz
I like the running board mount, but I don't like moving the generator.

Re: 1914 spare tire carrier

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 3:27 pm
by Rich P. Bingham
The inflation calculator reckons the $5.50 "duplex" carrier for 3-1/2" tires at $164.85 in today's dollars.

Re: 1914 spare tire carrier

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 6:54 pm
by Wayne Sheldon
Steve K, your particular spare tire bracket was probably intended to be mounted on the running board. Although bolting the sides directly through the rear body might have also been done. Many rear mount spare tire brackets had metal to extend under the rear tub as part of the bracket mount.
You might be able to mount yours far enough forward between the running board and front fender and not need to move the carbide/acetylene generator. Give it a trial fit and see?

Re: 1914 spare tire carrier

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:17 am
by Steve King
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Here is my 14. I actually have the prestolite tank to deal with rather than the generator to make room for the tire carrier. It is a problem too.

Re: 1914 spare tire carrier

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 11:30 am
by Steve Jelf
I actually have the prestolite tank to deal with...

Can you make some legs to raise the spare carrier above the tank?

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Re: 1914 spare tire carrier

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:18 pm
by George House
Heres my 1914 runabout cast iron spare tire carrier. Will strap in both sizes. Don’t know if I want to mount it or sell it 🤔

Re: 1914 spare tire carrier

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:53 pm
by Wayne Sheldon
I knew when I first saw the OP, I had seen a very similar one in an era photo before. However, looking through about a thousand old photos stored on my computer failed to find it.
So last night I was looking through some stuff that I did not have on my computer. And found this on one of Tom Rootlieb's many wonderful (thank you Tom R!) past threads.
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The car is a 1920ish runabout with an interesting large trunk and several after-market accessories.
The spare tire carrier doesn't have the "J" bracket the OP one has, but otherwise looks very close to the same!