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Early Coil box identification

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2024 5:49 pm
by Junk poor
I picked these up recently. Just wanted to get a positive identification. The one on the left is narrower than the other one. Is it a Kingston and the other one a Heinz? What years?
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Re: Early Coil box identification

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:31 pm
by Junk poor
Bueller..Bueller…

Re: Early Coil box identification

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:54 pm
by KWTownsend
The box on the right is Heinze.

Re: Early Coil box identification

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 10:34 pm
by Junk poor
So the Heinz would be 11-13 and the other one would be a Kingston then? It takes a quite a bit smaller coil than the Heinz, even smaller than the Ford coils. That would make it 11-13 also. Does that sound right?

Re: Early Coil box identification

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 2:16 pm
by John kuehn
I think this earlier post will answer your question. Hope this helps. http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/59 ... 1465417725

I don’t know if both coil boxes you posted are Ford T coil boxes but the earlier MTFCA info shows the differences of the early T coils themselves.

You also can go the home page of the MTFCA website then go to resources and then the old MTFCA encyclopedia where you can see a detailed information section of the coil boxes from beginning to the end of T production. Lots of information.

Re: Early Coil box identification

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 12:35 pm
by Woody23
The box on the left with the vertical 10/32 studs is a Kingston box. The stud was to hold the coil in place. I attached a photo of the brass tab on the coil.

David

Re: Early Coil box identification

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 1:46 pm
by Junk poor
Ok that makes sense. I wondered what those were all about.

Re: Early Coil box identification

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 12:35 am
by Luke Chennell
The box on the right is a 1912 Heinze box with the coils arranged in mismatched fashion. The earlier Heinze coils in 1911 used a separate post to "ground" the top, and had combinations of more screws to hold the tops down. The Heinze company must have been a favorite of whoever was selling blueprint supplies to them, because the designs changed constantly.