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Steering column and control rods

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:51 pm
by dmdeaton
Trying to figure out how to remove the rods. Don’t tell me all I need to do is bend these ears?
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Re: Steering column and control rods

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:53 pm
by dmdeaton
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Re: Steering column and control rods

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:55 pm
by Rich Eagle
If you anneal the ears they will bend easier with less chance of breaking.

Re: Steering column and control rods

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:59 pm
by dmdeaton
The gear box looks like one piece?

So bending them is the way it’s done?

If so,yes I will anneal

Re: Steering column and control rods

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:00 pm
by CudaMan
Since you have the later single piece gear case, yes, you have to bend the ears (after annealing them so that they don't break).

Folks with the earlier two-piece gear cases could grind off the rivets holding the two parts of the case together and slide the rods out without bending the ears.

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Re: Steering column and control rods

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:02 pm
by dmdeaton
K
Thanks guys

Re: Steering column and control rods

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:07 pm
by Scott_Conger
anneal, let it cool to room temp, bend a very little bit...repeat a lot of times

multiple annealings followed by thorough cooling during the process is mandatory, in my experience. It takes very little material movement for the metal to become very brittle again.

Re: Steering column and control rods

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:36 pm
by dmdeaton
Cut the rods off. Going to clean this stuff up. Sandblast the rust and then anneal
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Re: Steering column and control rods

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:36 pm
by dmdeaton
I love bringing this stuff back to life

Re: Steering column and control rods

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 4:08 pm
by Altair
To anneal a non-ferris metal, copper, brass, bronze heat to cherry red and quench in cold water, non ferris is hardened by cooling over long periods of time, the longer the harder. Non ferris will work harden and may require to be re-annealed during the working process. Iron is the opposite process, except will also work harden, they call it metal fatigue.

Re: Steering column and control rods

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 4:42 pm
by dmdeaton
We take brass sheet and anneal it so we can beat it into a buttplate for flintlocks. Easy to work but like you said, starts to harden back up after you work it.

Re: Steering column and control rods

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:00 pm
by Scott_Conger
Good that you are acquainted with working brass. Just know that you're used to working with brass that is alloyed for what you're doing, and this has a very different grain structure than you're used to. It will kick your butt if you're not careful. Knowing brass gives you a leg up but be careful to not get cocky! You'll be fine if you go slow.

Re: Steering column and control rods

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:15 am
by Original Smith
I assume you have a better pair of control rods to use?

Re: Steering column and control rods

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:48 pm
by dmdeaton
Yes, new set of rods and all the small parts. I will post more pics as I progress