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u-joint socket is the only way to go, in my opinion, and depending on the bolts/nuts on the rod, the FORD wrench may not even be the correct size from my experience.

What ever works for you is the way to go, though.

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Don check wheels very carefully for loose spokes (do I remember you rebuilt them, or not?) anyway, the bolts are not peened over the nuts...bad news if original spokes am wondering if they "clocked" over a little and the bolt gave up Like I said...looke everything over carefully and invest in new, q...

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Hal yes, there is The FORD tool is this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-walden-worchestor-5-8-spanner-wrench-no-5810-ford-model-T/123901415267?hash=item1cd9198f63:g:Mq8AAOSwOSVdapxe Or is a brace style wrench with a universal joint (cannot find a picture) There was a gentleman on the Forum just th...

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Dave it can be done each nut can be accessed if the crank journal is offset right/left make sure rags are used to catch anything that you don't keep control of. You'll undoubtedly have a fist full of loose shims come out. I ALWAYS mike them and put in a single, new, solid pack of shims so as to not ...

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Don

I'm thinking that Bob has a nice shell for your radiator.

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Very good of you to post the epilogue. Your problem is not really as rare as you may believe. That much movement is a very large part of the total movement of the pedal to get low gear locked up. You are very lucky to not have had serious problems crop up in the transmission with that much slack mov...

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A very expensive electric off-road vehicle will compete well against equally high priced Mercedes and Cadillac off-road vehicles which never take on anything more challenging than traffic jams.

If you actually intend to do any Sports/Utility work with it, be sure to buy the extra-long charge cord:

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Henry

that would be a spec related to crankshaft.

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Thomas good luck with the project. Having done some rewooding, I have found that often the drawing discrepancies fall within the ambiguities and peculularities of the different body manufacturers. I don't doubt that you've found some real problems, but just don't assume that what didn't work for you...

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Lee I am glad you're on a path toward progress and completion. There is considerable misunderstanding regarding the structural "belt rail" and the tack strip. I had to go through anguish and agony to discover the difference, and correct application of each, and hate to see others suffer through what...

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Keith

that is good background info and a generous offer.

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I buy and sell, and use a cell phone with a FL phone number. I now live in WY. I've had the number for years, it is an easy-to-remember number, many people have it ID'd as me, and due to these facts, it's use is convenient for me. There is no reason for that fact to cause one to suspect fraud just b...

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John In general, Copyright lasts for 75 years. To all: creation of plans, for free, is an admirable project. Remember, though, if I copy someone's novel in longhand, and sell it, I still have violated copyright law. So simply copying Mel's work to a new format doesn't seemto me to make it a legally ...

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Ever notice that when dealing with people like this, the grammar is usually that of a 5th grade dropout?

I do not do anonymous business with any one that cannot spell, or makes words plural with a "z".

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Like all T's, your car has a bowed frame. The only true fix is to re-arch the frame

Read this: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/80 ... 1240978095

as well as the rabbit holes it takes you down.

On the bright side, friends have had success at friendly frame shops, with body attached.

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Most if not all of Leon's plans were actually Mel Miller plans and were copyrighted. To this, you might wish to see Russ Furstnow's reply on this thread (last reply prior to closure of the thread): http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/50 ... 1207884220

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If you're 1/2 way through the intersection and not in high by then, you waited too long. That said, there are some aftermarket clutches that can be darn harsh and a real pisser to get a smooth shift out of. My dad's hack is that way and it takes a knoweldgeable experienced driver, and 1/2 day's tour...

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Yes, it should spin freely. Like all used Model T starters, it was started too many times with spark advanced and the backfire of the engine has bent the output shaft. In some lesser cases, the cast iron has moved ever so slightly out of line. This is a partial account as to why starter repairs (cor...

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Dan

thanks SO very much for making things such as this available to the hobby! I doubt these will last long, if owners care about keeping their cars on the road and will jump on rare parts when they are available.

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this: https://www.modeltford.com/item/6208B.aspx
and this: https://www.modeltford.com/item/6208B.aspx
and maybe this depending on what comes with your choke rod assy: https://www.modeltford.com/item/4131.aspx

assuming you are running an NH

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Thanks Andre

I could not for the life of me locate that on the website

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AMEN to that, John

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John yours is a common question...Google "MTFCA Magneto bulb" and see the results. Our '15 starts easily on mag, yet because of bulb problems and varying voltages when on MAG, I took the opportunity to use the (incorrect) battery carrier that was in the car and have rigged 12V bulbs to run off the b...

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Art, I got that exact same email once, too.
I avoided it like the plague.

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Mark

thank you. I stand corrected.

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Joseph I very much enjoyed looking over your tools and tooling, as well as reading about some of your techniques. Your tooling design is very good and well executed...lovely welding work! We would all benefit from your sharing more and more often on the Forum. Thank you for this look into your creat...

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In your last photo, where the clevis is not attached to the transmission arm, it looks like the arm is quite rotated, as though the throw-out is going very far forward (and the bolt/nut that contacts the parking brake arm is screwed all the way out?). I'm wondering if you have too few clutch disks i...

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Take a good picture of the driver's side with linkage hooked up and pedals "in position". Take a good clear picture of the notch mating with the support, through the top door on the hog's head so as to get good confirmation from the peanut gallery as to where things went wrong. don't yank that thing...

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I seem to recall you had trouble with getting the notch off of the pedal shaft and had to go to a machine shop? If the notch rivet hole is not in the correct location rotationally, the pedal can be thrown forward too much already, while at rest and result in a too-short clevis? Something is definite...

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Actually, the correct description is "belt rail". "Tack strip" is a small cross-section, flexible piece that bolts to a flange pressed into the top of the sheet metal that performs the function it describes As I had no wood for my car and only a "shadow" of the wood on the metal, I had a terrible ti...

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I think the great part of the story and the value, is that your husband FOUND it. Not all treasure must be AU to be valuable to the finder.

regards to you and your treasure huntin' hubby

Dig a little deeper and maybe find the car?

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Sounds like a plan...

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Sorry 'bout that Marv

there is no quick fix, unfortunately

Langs sells what you need...it's a Ron Patterson mfg'd part

I don't see it now, but they used to sell them...show Ashley the picture I sent and ask if they have that part on the shelf.

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and that's where the strap resides. Like it or not, your starter is coming out and coming apart.

The stud has all but certainly twisted and broken the copper strap

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And store your car with a FULL tank of ethanol-free fuel to ward off condensation

Not a problem where I live now, but was a significant deal when I was in FL. I suspect you're not a whole lot drier than FL, I am guessing.

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There is only one fix. Break out your American Beauty 250W soldering iron and replace the stud/strap.

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1/4-18 is a pipe thread and is WAY larger than a 1/4". I am going to assume you meant 1/4-20.

Why not take the hinge to a hardware store and fit machine screws (stove bolts) that match the hole in the hinge?

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Tim with modern driving, you want a new/perfect shaft surface. Loose belt to the point that the fan will spin when engine shut off (it does no work when driving, and simply pulls air when stopped at a light). The grease cup must be kept full, and a twist given to it each morning of a tour to the poi...

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1. is the fan a greased fan hub or an aluminum fan hub with oil plug?
2. has it been rebuilt?

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I am really really pleased for you.

I've followed your tale since the beginning, and have enjoyed every minute of it. Good for you!

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Get experienced eyes to go over everything very carefully. Simply changing bands should NOT have required all of the adjustments (and now maladjustments) that you've gone through. Under the assumption that the car was running prior to the band change, and now new bands are installed. Only very minor...

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I would strongly suggest that once you change the oil, that you crank the engine over slowly by hand, about two complete revolutions and let sit. Doing this a couple times a day for 3-4 days will get the connecting rods into the troughs and pick up some oil to run down the crank throws and start to ...

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Keith

there is no spring in the backrest of a '13. Just padding. If you went to grade school and were made to walk with a book on your head, you'll find it to be just fine. If you've spent your life slouched, texting into your phone, you'll be very uncomfortable.

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Jesse

yes, you can push the car around without the key in place, but it is very very very (very!) bad practice.

I would make a suggestion regarding this but will not due to the appearance of remotely condoning this idea.

Particularly with a new rebuild with new axles. GADZOOKS!!!!

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Good for you, and thank you for updating the forum of your success.

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This will give you key tolerances (parallel keys) for shaft and hub: https://www.cnccookbook.com/keyseat-cutters-easy-guide-to-keyway-key-keyseat-cnc-work/ The key stock tolerance is (for up to 1 1/4" key stock) is +.001/-.000 Ideal fit would be dead fit to slight interference on the shaft and sligh...

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And now I have to ask: Why on earth did that thing have to come out? And if everything was brand new, why didn't you SAY so??? Procedures for a brand new axle and a rusted up hulk would be VASTLY different.

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I have never had a key that would NOT come out, but given that this is the status of this one, I'd be inclined to get out my handy MIG welder and run a bead down it's length. Once cool, I would be very surprised if it did not come out, and the amount of heat transfered up the axle shaft will be negl...

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Allan...thank you According to Trent Boggess, the oilers were an integral part of the bolt in the beginning, and then were similar to the cheap spring-cap oilers in that they were self-contained and were driven into a recess in the kingpin/tierod bolt. This design went into early calendar year 1917....

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Please contact me via email (not PM) for details.

thank you

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I am offering to make Manhole-cover Kinpins and Tie Rod bolts for '15-'16 cars, for a limited time, on a case by case basis as they are ordered. I know that demand will be limited, due to the limited number of cars needing these parts, so I will not be stocking these items, but will custom make as r...

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Mark

you gave credit to Dan for the photos. I think you did just fine and I doubt very much that Dan has any problem with his photos being used in a continuing educational format.

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That is a piece of material called Fish Paper

I more often see them in generators than starters. Typically a point of the triangle is wedged down between coils and housing, directly insulating the post from anything inside.

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Up

http://www.cimorelli.com/mtdl/servicema ... ndexed.PDF

see figure 395

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Thanks, Dave

It was an interesting project and a natural variant to the kinpins I did a few weeks ago.

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Yes A friend of mine had a '26 with the remains of a vaporizer exhaust and an upside down manifold. He ran an old leaky carb which used fuel fast enough at speed, but ominously dropped raw fuel onto the hot exhaust when parked. It resulted in little gassy "puffs" of smoke when dripping. Scared me to...

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Martyn I think the "two" refers to the double clip that makes up the single assembly. I believe your drawing is complete as-is. And one final point and I'll quit. The last job I did used a new packing nut. The hole was slightly too small (not quite 1/4") and had to be opened up (I used 17/64 to allo...

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Congratulations and best wishes for many pleasant miles behind the wheel.

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Thanks Hank

We just got 3-4 inches along with 45MPH winds. It appears to have all blown to Denver

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David you are absolutely right!! that is a point I failed to make, and one that stymied my job of replacing my dad's fuel line during a very short trip to TN. There seemed to be NO place in his town that had the proper wall thickness of pipe. The thickness of pipe available at Lowe's, etc., was frig...

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Carriage bolts on all my cars' fuel tank straps are drilled for a cotter pin

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Vibration will not work harden Copper. Repeated stress will work harden copper. Vibration does not have to equal stress. If you use the original elbow and felt or neoprene packing that is supposed to be used, and use support clip(s) as originally installed, stress and risk of breakage will be all bu...

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A good project while the snow was coming down

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One word takes care of all of these problems: ESCROW

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Rather than suggest not to buy from a supplier, why not contact them and let them make you whole? Chaffins is an absolutely top notch operation and will NOT make a customer eat a bad product. Besides, if they aren't told, they may have more stock on the shelves that they will inspect rather than dup...

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I am guessing the ad above the jewelry ad garnered as much or more interest.

After all, inquiring minds want to know!

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John you will likely not find a better quality switch than what came with the car. As Susanne stated, the contacts must be clean and bright. This will involve a teardown of the switch to access all contact areas. Just crimping the contact is not enough if there is corrosion...and corrosion that inte...

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Any suggestions where to start to try to get more power? Buy a Mustang. Seriously, it is a T. Steep hills of any length are going to require low gear in a stock T. As far as performance, 93 octane is only draining your wallet. The lowest octane you can buy will burn just fine. That said, if your 93...

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Why did you not contact the state DMV and simply pay for a duplicate and then hire a lawyer? I do not doubt your story one bit. Have seen similar, but there didn't seem much of a fight on your end based on what you have stated. None of my business, or anyone else's of course. Yours is one of several...

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Simple
Just amend the Constitution

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That would make me very nervous. Additionally, the clamping surface is badly worn, too.

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Looks like a fun trip!
Thank you for sharing.

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https://www.mtfca.com/suppliers/Suppliers.htm

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Very nice work, Steve.

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https://www.orau.org/ptp/collection/consumer%20products/sparkplugs.htm and from Wikipedia: Polonium spark plugs were marketed by Firestone from 1940 to 1953. While the amount of radiation from the plugs was minuscule and not a threat to the consumer, the benefits of such plugs quickly diminished aft...

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Bands must be ROUNDROUNDROUND! Linings should be installed like this: with about 1/4" of lining projecting past all metal parts of band: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/331880/399418.html?1384450759 see Anthonie Boer on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 09:15 am. He has done it right. Pedal suppor...

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Dick

I have a product that will fix the problem with your Huff. Please visit my website.

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Jed what I am about to type is in no way meant to demean or belittle your abilities or desire to do the best job possible. The question you are asking leads me to believe that your best course of action is to purchase the MTFCA Transmission Repair book and read it. It may save you thousands of dolla...

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Jeff several lengths of these were made...installing the wrong one can be problematic. Simply showing a picture of it is like me telling the world I have tires for sale, but not saying what size. Try to show dimensions like this and maybe you'll have more luck with the sale: Pitman Arm Dimensions.jp...

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1. Regarding colors, body styles and dates, you have been misled. See: https://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/1914.htm "color"

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Mike good luck with your tool at Hershey and beyond. You caused me to peruse the rules and I believe that the rule you may be referring to is: No business advertisements or lengthy descriptions of your product or services It seems to me that No Business Advertisements means you may not say: SHOP AT ...

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If you do not believe it is valve related, then put a vacuum gauge on it and rule it out for certain: https://www.modeltford.com/item/T-VAC.aspx

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David

https://www.amazon.com/Allstar-ALL78241 ... B006K8VIAM

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Jack

it's nice to see someone that gets it!

I like your flag a lot!

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Matt

I am guessing that you don't realize that people pay good money for those things and that they cannot be purchased new.

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David

I have found those in earlier demountables, too. If I remember correctly, they were always Kelsay wheels. It is a nifty design.

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Glad you took Dave and Charlie's advice. I think you have found your problem. A T will start with a starter with that compression, but a stem winder is a LOT easier with better compression. I will bet that a leak down test will show burned exhaust valves following that trip you took. Kiss the valves...

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This is John Mays' car

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I have found that (many of) the repro shafts have the pedal rivet hole and the notch rivet hole to be too close to each other by up to 1/16". This often causes the pedal to bottom out on the hog's head well before the pedal has rotated (and shifted over) fully. I do not doubt that this has led to so...

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cannot tell from your picture, but am hoping you are actually on/in the rivet. sometimes they need heat at this point to encourage the pin to separate from the shaft. followed by more force from hammer and punch start this process by filing the notch and pin face, so that the outline of the pin can ...

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Drill it out. Insert rivet. Pein over.

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Darel, sarcasm is dead.

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Further reinforcing my theory...

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Proof again that only the heading of a thread is typically read, and that the original posting/words are meaningless.

Kudos to Darel for a clever posting that is going badly awry

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I select a punch that is smaller than the rivet body...then select a # drill that is just larger than the punch. Drill both ends of the rivet about 1/3 of the way through. You can typically beat the rivet out with the punch when thus relieved. You MUST support the notch and not allow the pedal boss ...

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Mark this is an exact copy of the original I had. It differs from yours in that it screws down into the seat frame. I thought a lot more about these than probably warranted as I was leery of putting a seat frame down on it, but that's the way I found it and that's how I replaced it... My car is a lo...

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Philip I would expect that limiting their use would work to maintain the value of both repros and originals. The last thing you'd want to see is a bunch of repro open valve engines hit the market to mate up with all of the Torpedo clone bodies out there, if you were serious about mainting the value ...

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Hi Bob

I think you called my wife and she didn't know about this. I am still interested, but if that nixed the sale, then that's the way it goes! If so, then nuts, it's my fault for not letting her know. I have sent another email explaining.

thanks much

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My experience in repairs is that that type of seal will soon be damaged by axle flexing...even with a good Hyatt bearing and new sleeve. Any number of miles on the car after installation and I've found that the seal is shot. If you are getting better service from them, that's good. The housing is al...

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