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Ahh...I missed the part where you contacted the original owner...you may just make headway that way. Very best of luck to you.

On the bright side, this will teach patience which will prove valuable when you're in the process of shimming a mag ring some day

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do not fail to finally, install a felt "seal" at the top of the housing to slow the loss of grease when the grease cup is turned down. I do not see that in the article Dan referenced.

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You need a Bill of Sale You need a Bill of Sale You need a Bill of Sale You need a Bill of Sale You need a Bill of Sale If this guy is going to do you any more "favors", it should be THIS first. Anything more will be gravy, but I suspect, doubtful. With a Bill of Sale that includs the VIN on it (and...

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I have one word for buyers of vehicles across a distance, or "sight unseen": Escrow

https://www.carchex.com/research-center ... explained/

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That is some compelling evidence, I'll admit!

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Lovely work as always, Stan!
Thank you for sharing.

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Coming back to this thread and studying the photos at highest magnification, I would be inclined to rule out the teeth having been turned off of the gear post installation. First, it makes no sense as nothing is gained, second it would be all but impossible to turn off the teeth in a lathe (and it w...

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Thanks for info, Wayne!

much of your post is a new education for me and I appreciate it.

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Henry

the magnet keeper screws screw into the ring gear. If it was absent (and the flywheel was machined to accept one) there would be no method of fastening the keepers, so the "blank" or dummy ring gear serves a function.

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Adam I wonder in this case if it isn't the very definition of "transitional". Steve Tomasso pointed out the factory appearance of stippling-type peining...a feature that I too mentioned to Walter prior to his posting this interesting bit of mechanical history. I wonder if this actually predates the ...

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Do a search for "Bonded Title" and consider taking the steps there...

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Marvin those drums should just slide apart. If they don't, they are likely wedged together from bead/sand blast media, assuming from the photo that they were in fact blasted. If that is the case then that media may be permanently embedded into the bushings and render them useless, which would be too...

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I, too, agree with Dan's comments and will add my opinion/clarification to his message: The black silicone sealant to use is Ultra Black Gasket Maker RTV. This is far FAR superior to other springy/stretchy products on the market. They have a purpose and use in life; just not this one.

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Mark

lovely vehicle and great ad presentation.

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Frank

thank you for taking the time to post more photos. Simply, "Wow".

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I like Model T's for their primitive simplicity. Admittedly, this as well as the countless other gee-gaw accessories of the period are interesting for their sometimes brilliance and others for their whimsical uselessness. This device appears to be a solution in search of a problem. Myself, I would n...

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Frank

I'm not a speedster guy, but do recognize and appreciate style and design. That is one lovely speedster. Is it yours?

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Honestly, if you have a vaporizor that is working "just fine", I would be inclined to leave it alone.

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Well, you are for sure going to need that notarized bill of sale. It is a good thing the seller is still answering the phone and offering to work with you. Take him up on it and fast.

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While you're waiting for a cut-out, you might do yourself a HUGE favor and purchase a voltage regulator. Your battery will thank you, and if you bend the legs just right, the cut-out makes a great doorstop.

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Here is an outstanding thread regarding floorboards. Most importantly, numerous people show the edge reinforcement that is completely lacking in any reproduction that I have seen. Not your exact vehicle, but if you follow the methodology found here, you will have a hard time finding someone to pick ...

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I will reinforce what Dan said. These rarely come available and often are dull. An awful lot of rear ends have been damaged by folks who don't know what they're doing and use the wrong tap. If you ever intend to rebuild a rear end, you need this tap. Dan, I just talked myself into one...I have some ...

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I survived a case like this in FL. The actual original owner of a mint '73 Bonneville had signed over the title to a guy who intended to "flip" it. We bought the car and paid a fine to FL for the "delay in registering" the car (I don't remember the time limit). Subsequent to that, I discovered that ...

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Jim the data you're refering to is old data. I was amazed to find that (some) heat pumps will now work down to -4F with heat strips conditioning the coil and then switch over to pure resistance heat strips below that temperature. I am waiting a year or two to start getting feedback on their reliabil...

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if the cut-out voltage matches the battery voltage, the generator will provide the necessary voltage. It is the current you regulate within the generator

for info:
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/41 ... 1404708210

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Howdy Bob

I have sent you an email. Thank you.

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Wayne, if what you say is true, then my appologies to the OP. It's been years since I had a brass car down to that extent and my only history with this area recently is on the '23 I'm putting back together.

Frank, Sorry for promoting bad info if that is the case.

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So did you reply to their *agog* look, with: "What?"

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Frank generally speaking, the hood hood hold down latches can be fit to the shelf first. With proper small washers and cotter pins suitably curled back and trimmed, they will fit down through the frame and you can then simply bolt the shelves to the frame with the two long carriage bolts. Photo cour...

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Steve

indeed they are, but they're there:

https://www.summitracing.com/search/bra ... =Ascending

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PN 2907, fuel shutoff, is a separate part (you illustrated it as though it was part of the sediment bowl), and PN 2916 is not part of the assembly. I'm nearly certain it came later

Nice work...always appreciate seeing it!

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I'm always intrigued by the "jerked out of the hands" comment. The steering is damped 4:1. A motorcycle is direct. This is not a motorcyclist's greatest worry, by far. Regarding going to 5:1 and expecting great improvement. Unless you upgrade to the enormous later steering wheel, too, you will not g...

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Erik/Donnie

I agree with you. Definitly looks like they're changing a wheel and most certainly dragging home in last picture. Wonder if that was before or after the funeral?

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Really should be a round tank.

The bolts I've seen have all been top-down, nut on bottom.

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I doubt seriously that it's binding on the spider gears. Think about what you typed...when you tighten down the differential housing nuts, the axles lock. That's because you're squeezing the two axle shafts together end to end. The backside of the 2520 axle gears are constrained within the housing c...

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Brendan I'd strongly discourage the use of water as everything will corrode. These engines already have thin spots due to that very thing over the years. Coolant is doing you a great favor in not allowing that to continue. Additionally, if you believe that was coolant in the cylinders, if it had bee...

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OP

do you in fact have an original (or similar) timer, or are you running a distributor?

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Sure do.
The original part was fiber and was a tad more forgiving. It also tended to disappear over the years.

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True story: Age 15, I'm working with a clock repairman who I later apprenticed for. His friend loans him a Logan Lathe. I try to take the chuck off by jamming a screwdriver between gear teeth. Gear tooth and chuck are simultaneously liberated. *GADZOOKS DID I JUST DO THAT?????* A humiliating lesson,...

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That would be a deal, if I didn't already have one, Hank.

That and the fact that the tire business didn't exactly pan out, I'm down on funds.

At least this bumps to the top. Best of luck...that's a deal in that great shape!

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...and you can drive on battery in reverse, too

sorry...couldn't help it

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I came back to this thread because I double checked my 2 South Bend 9" lathes to compare some relative sizes. That said, I have to disagree with Jerry O regarding the Aloris-style tool post holder on your machine. It looks exactly like mine in size relationship and if it in fact is, it is an AXA siz...

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My guess is it is the very nice Coupe you have for sale. Rather than scratch up a bunch of stuff and suffer the damage and mal-repair a local mechanic will do, why not let the new owner take care of it himself? He/she will likely have the knowledge/tools to do this and will certainly be more motivat...

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So, with no stress analysis yet, our "gut" feel is that it's fine. The information is available on the interweb, including Ultimate Strength of materials, and calculators which can have a safety factor dialed in. I'm betting I'm not the only one who checked, but I'm betting also that it isn't many, ...

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The question wasn't asked, but I'll answer it. The steering shaft can be built up and machined back at wear points using spray weld, and then new 4:1 steering pinion and gears fitted. This way the feel of the car is retained. Personally, driving an early T with 5:1 steering simply feels wrong to me ...

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Adam

I'm with you
Have you spent a moment to even ask what it took to break the crank???

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This is a very thoughtful thing to do for the hobby and a nice gesture in your family's name.

Condolences to you and family. Leon helped me out years ago and I know I would not have been nearly as successful without plans.

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James nothing wrong with the belt you suggested...and I personally enjoy the quiet clickclickclick of the lacing (I know it makes some people nuts, but to me it's kind of soothing). Plus it will not likely stretch like leather will for the first few years...HAHA. Myself, I still like the leather...t...

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Tim

can't tell you how tickled I am to see that tool post holder at work!

(Finally!)

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That was an extrordinary purchase for the price. The large-dial cross-feed is worth $200 as parts alone. You're missing the compound for it, but are readily available on ebay, as is virtually every replacement part for that lathe That looks like a Model A which is a nice version of that size, with a...

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Joe

right on, on each point.

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You know, Tim, I had seen that too, but am wondering if that also plays any part in keeping the thing "square". If they were all in a line, I'm pretty sure that thing could become a parallelogram pretty easily.

That's a test of geometric reasoning similar to the old ASVAB test I took in High School!

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Tom

please send an email for info
thank you

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I'm not responding to this to defend the design...it is what it is, and it is inferior to a one-piece or two piece welded assembly. The responses thus far running against it, however are not addressing the stress area, though, so are clearly just "gut reactions" to the design. Well enough. Has anyon...

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First off: that's neat!
Second: Do you have different diameter brake bands on those things (larger ones for larger drum and mounted on rearward stud)

Finally: YOWSER! Those radius rods are slated for replacement, right?

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Sounds like you have come to a conclusion, then.

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Michael that is very good advice. Coolant will find a leak that water will not. If the car was prone to small weeps, often times with the new gasket and water for about a week will cause the weep to clot due to natural corrosion, and once drained and replaced with coolant, the coolant stays put. A c...

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starts runs rough smoothes out dies sounds exactly like a carb with a sticky float valve that is set a little too rich at start and then leans to proper mixture right before running out of fuel in the bowl. since this car ran fine 2 months ago, this problem is not particularly cosmic. Check the carb...

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I agree with Mark. I wouldn't worry about it unless there is something very obviously deficient in its assembly, and you're the only one that can conclude that, not us.

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Tim

I agree. That's cool.

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Michael

I have sent you an email

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Hank

I got your email, but I am the wrong Scott C.

Scott Clemens

Hank has some really good looking bolts for you

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Bill H

yes, they do.

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Bill you must be a very patient man! for me, ANY manifold in place taxes my patience! the reality is, to me at least, not only does it require less use of a scarce resource (patience!), is that the speed gained by removing the manifolds well exceeds the time spent replacing them, so for me it isn't ...

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Bob

I am receiving emails on this, but nothing from you. Sorry about that. Please try again. Thank you

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Bill
you're welcome

Mark
Yes, it fits the Ford version, too.

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Hi Bill They flow as much as the original Holley valves flow. Because of the design of the standard replacement valve sold by the suppliers, the flow is through about a .090 orifice and mine flow through .125" orifice which is the original design. There are other improvements, as well, to improve Cv...

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Folks on my waiting list have just been contacted, and I have several left over from the run, so if you're interested, now is the time to get them... I am still including a free lead washer with each valve, in case you have a particularly stubborn carb that will not seal with the fiber washer. The n...

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Bob

check your personal email

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Tim I ran one of the South Dakota Black Hills National tours in a 1919 depot hack with an engine with "0" miles. Not an ideal break-in but I did a lot of oil changes and maintenance on the car each day. That said, the car had stock rear end, was a very heavy car, and passed a lot of broken cars (all...

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30K miles would be low for a Mustang; it's a ton of miles for an original T.

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Chad

http://www.accuratescrew.com/catalog/fillister-head

Steve

they are used when you want a captured fastener

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Rich you're probably aware, but will tell you anyway: there are drill bit/countersinks that drill the correct hole for wood screws and the wood doesn't split. I have some and use them for any project requiring a wood screw...they're tapered drills...pretty clever. Here's an example of them: https://...

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Ken you ask the question as though no one knows the answer! Electric cars are coming, and power generation and infrastructure will increase to support it, that's for sure, but probably not without pain, as the folks who want these cars the most, tend to regulate power the most, and heaven forbid tha...

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And so, the prize appears to go to Tim. Good call Tim.

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Tim

you always do such nice work, and do it on some very interesting pcs. Not a buyer, but good luck linking up with folks with needs or forsight.

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Hank I just saw a great interview of Scott Adams, creator of Dilbert comic strip. He stated, "My opinion is, when you're young, stay away from drugs...when you're 50, your Dr. ought to give them away for free, and if you make it to 80, and you want LSD, mushrooms or whatever, you should be able to t...

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That's a nice looking, desirable car.

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It rides better with the single bracket, but given what I think you're doing with this car, it is an interesting oddity. When you get to it, you may a broken leaf or two and that may be the reason for the extra clamps. As an aside, my grandmother used to tell me that during/post WWII, lots of T's hi...

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Norm, that is a laudable idea, but we both know the CCC was set up for out of work, desperate-to-work folks, in an economy that had few jobs. Today we're at full employment and anyone that can fog a mirror and wants to work, can. Not only are you saddled with fires, but you have a system that thrive...

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Nikolaus

it would be interesting to see photos

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Dallas

our guys are Co-op, too. Serviced and employees are wonderful. Great isn't it?

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I will predict that you will have more in your car $$ after all is said and done, than if you just spend $6500 on a complete running car. However, if you just really want a wood-bodied car, good luck and report back with photos... Be aware, that if you build a complete body out of wood, you will be ...

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Pretty darn nice
Must get quite a feeling of accomplishment from such a project!

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I agree. I have seen very few of the early vents myself...maybe 2. They're out there, though...I even think I recall seeing that someone was reproducing the vent...

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Tim I'm as convinced of originality as you are of fakery, I guess. And I agree 100% with all of your reasons...this tag just shouldn't look this good...and yet I have leather products over 100 years old in the same great shape. And they spent most of their life in Florida which is about as hard on l...

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This pinion was typically used on heavier closed cars in the mountains. I think it would take a very healthy engine to get to 40MPH for any length of time, myself. A tired engine and a 4:1 rear end, more like 30MPH wound out. Would be great with a Warford and overdrive.

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Given that it's a fixed ratio of drive gear to driven gear, and the fact that there existed and still exists standard gear pitch and module values, I'm going to bet that the gears are going to be very similar regardless of mfg.

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Tim I would normally agree, but having leather material from WWI, myself, I am not so sure. The hole in the thing looks just like how very old leather degrades when stored, say, in a dresser drawer. Here's my take: if it was a repro, and I was making it, I'd have assigned a MUCH lower number to it t...

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Corey

I've never seen a straight-through NH that WASN"T inverted like Kingston. Just looked at 6 on my shelf for sanity's sake and all are as I remember.

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Rich

two super-talented artists in the same home is rarely a coincidence. Did you meet over art in some way?

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Jim Golden I have always been of a notion exactly as you have just described. Research today turned up this: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/331880/380624.html?1376366658 I have a lot of respect for Royce's opinions and experiences and as of the date of: Royce in Dallas TX on Monday, August 12,...

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That's just a stamped square hole. I've seen old wheels where the bolts were not about to come out and I've seen restored wheels that have had new bolts drawn in that would not easily come out. When on the road, it's nice to not worry about them falling out when changing a tire. It 's no different t...

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The longer keepers were designed to be used with round poles with widly spaced coils, of course, and the later short keepers were used with oval poles and very closely spaced coils. I know you know that, but am repeating for benefit of newer members here. I do not know for certain, but I really wond...

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The slightly elongated hole is the one by the valve stem Once those bolts become one with the felloe, you cannot swing the rim off to liberate the stem from the felloe unless that hole is elongated. It's one thing to have new loose bolts on a restored rim and quite another when they are no longer se...

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These work just fine. I keep a set for blocking fuel tank filler holes for cleaning/sealing fuel tanks, and sealing radiators for mild chemical cleaning (like vinager): https://www.petersenproducts.com/143-5-Series-Water-Line-Stub-Plugs-s/1901.htm Additionally, this style is particularly suited to f...

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You're welcome Burger

I had a pretty good handle on what/how this worked but still found the article illuminating in several areas. I'm guessing/hoping that I'm not the only one who learned something from the article.

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