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And just when I thought I'd seen or heard everything...

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Kind of makes you want to slap your forehead, doesn't it?

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Mark, an advanced gear will give you a little more torque at lower speed, but if the cam is worn, you might not get a noticible boost. That said, Chaffin's performance cams already have that advance designed/ground in, so make sure if you go to an advanced gear, you're not putting it onto one of the...

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Is the oil line working? Pull the passenger/front inspecion pan bolt and start car. If oil flows, it's working. Is it the transmission/gears? Jack the car up, blocked well, put in high gear with engine running. Howling go away then it's transmission problem. Still howling? Pull radiator and timing c...

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Just for clairification, I only posted the video but had nothing to do with it's creation and can take no credit for it. I believe it is one of our other posters, though I do not know which one.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnlCCugAC3Y

Housing straightening, real time

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Wayne, that's nice. What a treasure to live long enough to be a friend. My dad and I still have a similar relationship, though I'm sure he'd tell you that I was the difficult one!

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Yeah, my first choice would be generator. Could be a bad generator or a too-closely positioned generator. Sometimes you need to shim the generator mount casting out to get proper gear mesh, particularly if an oversized cam gear is used to make up for a worn crank gear. Doesn't need to be fancy plate...

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That made my day

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Wow Les, indeed he did!

That's a lot of pricey bling on display. The engine's not so bad, either!

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Robert I'm going to enclose a link which pretty much explains the cutters and how they work and how one or more posters felt that they worked. The set purchased by the OP in this thread purchased the valve resurfacer also. I would recommend sending valves to a shop to be finished even if they are ne...

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Yes, they are the best fittings. Now, how many have seen the proprietary wrench(s) and gap gauge available for them and when should it be used and when should it NOT be used? Just a little trivia from someone who spent much of their career using them... Les nice work and no small task working with t...

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Taking our first drive in the '15 on our property

Taking the '19 for a drive into Clark's Fork Canyon on a calm day (only 30MPH winds). Years ago, wind out of the canyon rolled up the asphalt like a shade on a window.

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Ryan

glad to see you taking the long view of this. Welcome to the affliction, and so very sorry you're experiencing this so early in your tenure of ownership

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Stephen

you are not the first to report such an occurence and it is good to bring the experience to the fore for the sake of completeness in deciding band choices.

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Ryan

you must not have done enough research if you are continuing down this line of questions. Take a look at this thread and ask yourself if you will be as lucky as Jared, and not at least lose a foot or leg when it finally goes.

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/70 ... 1505852037

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Hank

how much for the shoes?

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Kevin

It might be just as simple as having a more modern ignition like you mentioned. I was attempting to start on 12VDC through original rebuilt coils FWIW.

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Nice John!

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There have been some "too-thick" glands in the past. Norman is probably right in that assesment. That's sure where I would check. If this is a rebuilt engine, the port area may have been planed a little to remove rust pitting and exhaust erosion. If this is the case, all the more to suspect the glan...

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I confess: I used to be a non-believer

I was a non-believer until I was a believer.

It will happen to most everyone eventually

Believer or not, it is always wise to store fuel tanks full, and not give condensation any area to form upon

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I don't know if it was the lack of reach, or what, but I once fell into the trap of using adapters and modern plugs in a standard T head on a stem-winder. After spinning for an hour with rest breaks interspersed, I barely got a "chuff" out of it. I put a cleaned up set of 90+ year old plugs and it l...

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JOHN!!

it's PERFECT!
I just read the thread through top to bottom and was laughing hysterically by the time I got to the bottom!

BTW, it should be an "o", not an "a".

I guess I'm easily amused. All the best.

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Thank you very much folks. Can't say I'm particularly surprised...it is pretty useless as-is. I guess this is the first useable Model T part I've ever thrown out. Probably won't be the last. I used to collect American Cut Glass and pay really good money before 2008. Those pretty pieces aren't even s...

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the only thing harder to find in Wyoming than virus, is a resident that wants to leave right now.

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well, I get your point, but Dade City will be surprised to hear that they are a big retirement location (though admittedly it is really nice and probably growing). as for working to support us old folks, you keep it right up. I will be dipping my beak very shortly and assure you your effort is great...

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So, what's it worth?

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back to the top again

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Under 3" in diameter, a standard ID of a cast bronze bushing is plus/minus of nominal diameter by .001" and the OD is .002-.003" over nominal diameter. After pressing one into a 100 year old steering arm of unknown exact size and and dubious roundness, the only sure way I could fit a tie-rod pin wit...

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That's definitely an odd duck

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Jeff

sounds like you need to move!

Actually the Fun T's of Central FL have some east coast folks. Contact them and ask for info. Something or someone will turn up. Welcome to the affliction.

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rereading again about the rocker requiring the rod to swing is exactly what I didn't understand. DOH! Reading comprehension 101...

my last post is pretty much pointless in the discussion...sorry about that.

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And as predictable relative to my last post, hundreds of thousands of people are engaging in an illegal mass migration and as of right now at least 22 people in India have died of exhaustion and/or malnutrition while trying to get home or wherever now that all transportation has ceased and they are ...

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Steven I hear you and I think your point is well taken...in theory my experience has been for better or worse, unlike Deusenberg or Mercedes Benz or nearly any other collector car you choose to consider, Model T owners tend to do the very least necessary to keep the car on the road, and for the lowe...

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What am I missing here? All T's have leaks at the pushrod and valve guides. You are probably aware, but others may not be, that excess clearance/wear at the guides is the primary reason that some Model Ts smoke so profusely at idle after a good run, but do not appear to smoke when out on the road. I...

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Leo If you purchased the two-piece emergency brakes, consider removing material at about 1/2 degree back slope on the face of the brake show where it contacts the cam. This will throw the shoe "back" toward the backing plate when the springs are installed and will stop rubbing on the brake drum.That...

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https://modeltfordfix.com/replacing-the ... g-harness/

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/truck-carryi ... 44429.html

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Fun

https://www.macsmotorcitygarage.com/vid ... -vinyolas/

More fun:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31gtBbGRPcQ

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Perspective: : the capacity to view things in their true relations or relative importance 1,339,000,000 people in India. Thats BILLION 1,269,000 square mile country 1251 Coronavirus cases. 32 deaths due to the virus Average Annual deaths due to Malaria: 205,000 Country locked down for 21 days Crops ...

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I know. I tried to make it as hard a choice as possible.

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Everyone of us is but one or two generations removed from some ancestors' vile, (by today's standards), acts or beliefs. Each one of us will be viewed by our grand or great-grandchildren as having obviously ignored, overlooked, denigrated or abused someone or something or missed an opportinity to "f...

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A valve guide reamer is $61
A valve is $8
Measure the hole and buy a valve that matches that size
Done

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Metric vs. Imperial

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Perhaps that was used as a sound-effect in "The Grapes of Wrath" movie.

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Brake levers at rear wheels should be pretty much laying backward a little when hand brake lever is all the way forward. If little to no wear anywhere, the brake levers should be approaching verticle when hand brake is verticle, and you have "neutral" and so forth. If the clevis' are so slack, then ...

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There may be more Sibley/Freuhauf's now than originally...or not...who knows?

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Wayne, your last sentence sums it up pretty darn well.

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That little '15-16 Form-a-truck got around! Originally published in Motor Age, July 8, 1917 and reprinted in the Old Motor April 30, 2015:

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Steve Jelf has or had a '24 non-starter TT. Hopefully he'll chime in soon with some answers re: bell crank etc.

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Per below, the HF lists it as an '11 already fitted with the Form-a-Truck kit before being married to the trailer, and that due to demand, this eventually became the Freuhauf Brand. As linked by Rich, the Museum lists an entirely different year, likely being the year of the truck's addition of the t...

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Clear side view. It's the "L" shaped metal on the firewall which, through pivoting, changes a 45 degree pull at the dash, to a vertical pull in the engine compartment as well as slightly increasing the choke lever lifting movement relative to the "pull" movement Someone will have a very rusty firewa...

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Robert, part of your self-description to "do it right" included valve seats. All of that takes a machine shop of course. Trust me a Neway cutter and new valves is a very good step in the right direction and is short of a major rebuild, (compared to lapping), "doing it right". A very credible job can...

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- New valves are not all that expensive...buy 8 - take the new valves to a good shop and have them kiss them incase one or more has shipping damage (they only come in a little paper sleeve) a cheap can of clover valve grinding paste is one of the most expensive things you can buy for your car. I lea...

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JB

contrats on the 50 years, and by the way...you're welcome.

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James

are you single?

or just trying to be?

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Jerry and by scaling, one can even see what has to be a 2" or extremely similar pipe rising out of the sloped panel. It was visible in further distance shots, but with the photo blown up it is quite evident and easily estimated as to size. Childs construction paper trimmed and laid at that angle wit...

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#3 above can be augmented by a very slight schmeer of high-temp silicone sealant on the engine side of the copper gasket. I would guess somewhere near 10+% of all old T motors could benefit from this, though probably less than 1% actually get treated with it. Poor running seems to be almost a braggi...

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My county: over 6,900 square miles within it's boundarys. 4 people per square mile. One case. Businesses closed and friends going bankrupt. STUPIDITY. New York City: 302 square miles. 28,525 people per square mile. Tens of thousands ill. Remain home. Not so stupid. We are not a homogeneous people li...

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David

appears you're really passionate about the subject!

(one for each post)

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Marshall with due respect I'd say that if you want to do it ONCE and RIGHT, none of your plans would really meet that criteria for me. If the engine is all over the floor it isn't like some $$ are not going to be spent on this thing even if it is on a budget. And who right now is NOT on a budget? FW...

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there is no circuit from the burning bulb to the unlit one...isn't even getting there to go to ground...Like Dan said, it's grounded at the first bulb through the base.

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You may not need to, either. An awful lot of very early cars never saw the service necessary to wear out a transmission.

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The Russians and Chinese must be giving themselves a dope-slap thinking about all $$ they spent on all of the nukes they built to bring down the Free World. Who would have thought that a virus would have nations willingly give up their freedom, their wealth and security all while living in a state o...

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Mike

I believe that you have solved your problem. Good for you.

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Neil, there is just no end to the benefits to aligning the front end correctly!

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Dan, glad you made that clear. I sure didn't and am sorry that I didn't. It makes complete sense as you control the finish, toughness and size that way, which is important in that you are supplying a "system" that would be incomplete otherwise. I hear nothing but good stuff about those things, and f...

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John gives good advice now for a little more advice: 1. have two people raise it the first time; lifting a tight windshield by only one corner, on an early car is a nearly guaranteed cracked glass 2. Always raise or lower the windshield from the CENTER once it is free enough to be manipulated 3. Nev...

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Should pins with 1 1/2 thou be replaced - My opinion: From an engineering standpoint, the answer is "yes" If you're paying an enormouse amount of money to have it remanufactured, the answer is "yes" If you're doing it yourself, the answer is "it depends" I have had excellent success using pins like ...

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Keith

that's a great photo and good of you to post.

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If you have opened the link I supplied, you have seen an original version of a very similar spring, doing the exact same thing (sitting on seat bottom and extending over the top edge of the body), on an early car. I think somewhere you stated that your spring cannot go lower and yet in the picture i...

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Well, I cannot believe that I missed the note on the drawing AND Dick's pointing it out, but apparently my brain substituted "gas" for "dash. There was quite evidently some sort of tank with access through the firewall. It would be perfect for time trials or anything related to limited duration runn...

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Henry, he and his family and all of our first responders will be in my prayers

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Law enforcement is in a terribly difficult position with this. The Constitution, under the Privileges and Immunities Clause, and Case Law is clear that they may not ask you "where you are going?", restrict your movement with regard to travel nor detain you unless for suspicion of a crime. You are NO...

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I'm with Jerry to your queston, no, the side view does not indicate that it was mounted vertically. It is a standard side view of the direct view, whose primary purpose is to indicating which direction the "pooch-out" goes in relation to the straight on view...meaning that the viewer looking at the ...

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Les I would bet that it's fair to say that you invented the two piece shaft as an answer to excessive runout of tail shafts and based on other older posts from you, you had extremely small runout on your tail shafts when installing your ball bearing 4th main (even prior to the two piece transmission...

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Mike SO glad to hear this follow-up from you. I was frankly shocked to hear the claim on Wearever bands and didn't intend to pursue it without seeing it with my own eyes. Thank you for clearing this up for the company as well as their customers. Kind of surprised they didn't jump in with this info t...

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If you can get tail piece TIR to less than .001" or use a modern two piece transmission shaft it would probably be fine. Since you do not know the condition of the transmission, TIR of tail piece or if the transmission has a modern 2 piece transmission shaft (my assumption) I personally would not us...

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Jim my '23 project is just like you suggest. However, that spring is vastly different than the early-type spring that Mike is dealing with. Take a closer look at his spring and see that it has far fewer coil rows than the later springs and is far taller than later springs, and if lifted off the seat...

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I don't think you're paranoid at all. Those are very good questions for almost anyone reading this but me at this point. The cash I handle hasn't been touched by anyone for years and very little is needed right now What's a newspaper? I'd have to drive 35 miles to find a vending machine, and then I'...

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looking harder at it, I think you simply need to drop the spring assembly down to sit on or nearly sit on the bottom seat frame (like Allan said now that I reread his post) and then everything will look fine when stuffed. Don't over stuff the bottom portion, though. The bottom seat cushion needs to ...

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I posted this on another topic where this related. I feel that it deserves its own thread and while I believe it is of importance and use to members, it would surely be taken down if put in general discussion heading if placed there: I am going to make a suggestion to everyone: get "Informed Deliver...

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I am going to make a suggestion to everyone: get "Informed Delivery" from the Post Office. You will register YOUR address and email account with them and every day you will receive an email with a PICTURE of all of your mail. You will also receive notification of delivery of any packages. ANYONE can...

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Well, I like to do things right...whatever right is :? I know that Marshall and others came up with the definition of "right" for cam lobes vs cam gear "o" mark SOMEWHERE and I wanted to find it's source. Enter the trusty Dyke's Manual. Very clearly under the section of valve timeing and cam rotatio...

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Back up to the top

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Back up to the top

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There is but one reference in the entire Ford Manual related to actually installing the large gear onto the cam shaft, and the reader is sent to this instruction a couple of times in the course of normal work regarding gear mesh, gear wear, cam straightness and cam bearing wear and gear installation...

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I think I get what you're saying but will not go further as while this sounds "on topic" for the OP it is not and can lead to much confusion for him and everyone else.

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"Shorten"

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There could actually be two timing marks on the cam gear 180 apart and either one would work.

If all other things are equal, you might want to rethink that.

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Marshall you are still asking the correct way to do something that cannot be done wrong (so long as the timing dots/marks on cam and timing gear mesh). If you had to walk around your house from the front door, is turning right or left the correct way to navigate around your house? It simply does not...

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Personally, I'd swap front for rear and drive 'em for as long as they last. I would not replace that tire. Unless you drove in the rain all the time...and maybe not even then. It really isn't much less adhesive to the road than a tire with tread, and the only time I ever slid was in Largo, FL when c...

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Steve, you are absolutely right about that! Excellent point and advice.

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Or at least come with an obvious warning that further work was needed and priced accordingly...which admittedly is a less than ideal product for the average guy or gal. Personally, my next set of bands will be done with the Dykes/Kohnke method and will need to be both shortened AND dipped/sealed so ...

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Dick trading has shut down automatically several times already. That would be a closure. I think what you expected to happen in fact happened. Stocks trade based on their earnings and expected growth. The more potential for growth, the higher buyers are willing to drive the P/E ratio withoug getting...

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Gear goes on either way. The gears certainly don't care. Put the front cover on and stop worrying about "0" or "180 out". Set cam manufacturer's clearance for valve lash with pushrod on the heel of the cam. Crank engine over to #1 compression and 12-15 degrees ATDC and set the timer. Be done with it...

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Was this causing the wear? Didn't help, that's for sure How loose are your kingpins in the axle and how loose are the spindle bushings on the kingpins? The top axle hole should be a very close fit to the kingpin and the bottom axle threads should be "no shake" when the castle nut (lock nut) is slac...

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Herb thanks for posting If it has a leather belt and goes clickclickclick when running, it's my passion. For me, this was a very disheartening video knowing that this will all be broken up and the building likely leveled. The roof appeared to be in great shape and machinery preserved in place. So sa...

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That body has been brought up for sale regularly, for years, for pretty much the same price. It's future is still that of it's past: unsold. I can't speculate on what it's worth, but am certain that whatever it was really worth 2 months ago, it's worth less than that today and will be worth even les...

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Wayne, your search for the $$ tap made me chuckle. They say money cannot buy you happiness, but I have found that it does a fine job of financing the illusion. The lack of money is frequently my inspiration to look harder in dark corners for stuff I know I have but cannot find. We are kindred spirit...

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