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Thanks Trent.

No not yet. I need to make bushings and some other parts first

I think the tag on that radiator was probably from a radiator repair company. They normally applied one whenever they worked on a radiator, so they could keep track of warranty claims. The scratched numbers would reflect the workorder of the repair, so they could look it up and confirm what they had done previously, and decide whether or not a...

You have to keep in mind, that this was still the day of Stationary Assembly , where teams of men put cars together one at a time. Even when moving assembly lines came along, only the large manufacturers could install and use them.

Companies like the Brush Runabout Co. with their tiny production, never did reach a moving assembly line, even as...

I would like to see it as well!

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I sure miss that car Rob!! I’d have kept it but when I got it , there was a beaver engine in it.

Ford Motor Co. was an immediate success financially. Within months of their first sale, the company issued stock dividends to investors. In many cases, the dividend actually paid a portion of some investors commitment (agree to stock purchase), as several had not paid actual cash, or their full commitment, but issued notes (loans) to pay in...

Hi!
My N needs a floormat, I have one but unfortunately it got trashed after a rally i went on. Also my friend who have aqquired a Model S needs one
If you get any more info on this please contact me! Or add me on the list :)

Best regards Alex
Sweden

Thank you!

Thanks a lot for the pictures, this helps a lot. Does someone has the small gear in the oiler for sale? Or eventually a complete mc cord oiler

Bill,
I’ve not found drawings yet, and agree that the Aerocar was probably under powered or at least underwhelming mechanically. Currently, I’m aware of a 1907 Aerocar touring car (Model D?) in Tasmania. It was in Nebraska years ago and I attended the auction, not knowing much of the marquee at that time. It’s beautifully restored and I just spoke...

Those are neat pictures Herbie.

One of my coffee buddies brought it to coffee. He is professional locksmith and found it in the bottom of an old box. It cuts like a real piece of babbitt.
I'll ask him to bring it again so I can get a picture on the back of it. It is not a piece of cast iron. My picture was not the best due to the Canadian Smoke overhead. I'll take a scale and...

Number Nine, Number Nine, Number Nine, Number Nine....

Thanks to Margaret Moore I have been able to access the drawings.

Thanks for the information.
I’ll post a picture when I get the spring back.

George,
I wouldn’t say early Ford expert. However, I doubt anyone has more research at their fingertips regarding Model K, and Model B to a lesser extent.
Cheers,
Rob

I find it interesting that the publication was Hawaii Territory and the British word bonnet was used as the hood over the engine. A lot of newspaper articles in that era got mixed up with automotive nomenclature. The automobile was still so new, and evolving quickly, that things like how the cylinders were arranged was often reported incorrectly.

I am shocked at our loss.
Geoff was a wonderful fellow to take over the Newsletter work sometime after I retired.
He was eager to learn and did a bang-up job from the get go.
God Bless his soul and be with the family.
Dave Dunlavy

Thanks Keith,
Henry Ford attended Port Hurons first ever auto races on July 4th, 1905. He drove a stripped down Model B Ford touring car to the fastest mile time of the meet, although a four cylinder Cadillac beat the 4 cyl Ford on a head to head contest. The Ford mile time of 1 minute 26 seconds equaled 41 mph on the half mile track....

Tail light located and purchased. Thanks MTFCA!

My pleasure. I tried to use Fords drawings. Most dimensions are fractional. So I did my best to understand what they considered critical. Let me know of any issues. I like happy customers.

Brian

Thank you Carl. Wish it was still there. Many key racing events involving Henry Ford and Frank Kulick occurred there. The 24 hour win in 07, Frank Kulick’s record attempt and near fatality in Oct 07, and Ford and Kulick’s victory over the Blitzen Benz in September 1911 are major examples.

Coil box sold

Welcome back to early cars in general and early Fords in particular….

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That 1917 date looks close as the rear fenders are not crowned. Nice wheels!

Made a vanity license plate for my model F.
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Bob,

I like that F! Thanks for posting!

As of this 1911 article, the Hanks own an Oldsmobile. In most cases I'v found, former Model K owners move on to other large expensive cars, as one might expect, although in a few cases they buy a Model T.

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All the drums are sold except the gear drum with the cracked pin holes.

I knew that several model Ks, both touring cars and roadsters, had had windshields back in the day, and that a couple touring cars have them now.
But I also like the wind in my face feel of open speedsters and other cars early enough to have had no windshield when new.
Just had to razz you a little bit.

Actually, the car looks quite nice with...

Fascinating historical insight! Ford’s early sales and advertising are impressive.

You can substitute an early Model T handle for the NRS handle. You will need to make a new crank handle bolt since NRS cars use USS course threads, but Model T’s use SAE threads.

Kim,
Yes. I have some ideas. Also, maybe another initially good location. Call, or I’ll try you. I’m driving all day tomorrow (to Salt Lake) and all day Friday returning. Maybe we can talk one of those two days?

Congratulations on the L to B acceptance!
I know you have been before, in a borrowed car. This should be an even better experience!

SOLD
Thank you to the buyer and MTFCA and HCCA
Headed for Australia

Email sent...

Well William May, hello to a fellow typesetter!

It sure looks light enough to be an N, maybe the wheel dimensions are a clue.

From the description of the event, there were two White steamers, a society lady in a yellow touring car and a young lady learning to drive her runabout. Must have been a great sight.

Wayne,
As always, thank you, and I appreciate your insights. History is an I testing, fluid and often changing (facts is facts, except what they aren’t 🫣). Working on a few other interesting “early Henry Ford” tidbits. Hope you have a good weekend.
Cheers,
Rob

I checked with Glenn Rand who made the last batch of new ones and he sold all of them. He has no current plans to make another run of them. Sorry

893 miles, divided by 25 mph, gives a total driving time of 36 hours, approximately. If they drove 10 hours per day, that would have been about 4 days total. Wonder if they ever had their trip written up in a newspaper?

I know the guy who took the Brush cross-country with his wife, drove every day from breakfast until dark. Those must have been...

Thank you!!!!!

Thank you, Rob!

Thank you! A VERY interesting post! I never knew a test track existed a the plant side on Piquette!

I know the powerhouse is long gone. Does anyone know what kind of engine and generator they had installed in it? Was it an Edison DC installation?

330 Michigan Avenue is now a municipal bus servicing building. Polack's bar is long gone, unfortunately!

Yes, THANK YOU ROB, for your work on this aspect of the Ford Motor Company. In my opinion, these earlier years are FAR more valuable and critical, than stuff found after the Model T went into production. Once the Model T commitment was made, the future of the company was basically locked on that course. But what happened in the years prior to the...

I note that the motion was carried anyway.

This must have been a VERY irksome situation for Henry Ford to get Couzens to write this letter to the Dodges. I know Henry absolutely detested the piece-work pay arrangement that the Dodges had with their workers, but this situation must have added fuel to the fire. Yet another jab to make Ford completely independent of any critical supplier....

Thanks David,
There was one “laundaulet reported sold in October 1907. I’ll start another thread on the prototype T and Laundaulet listed as sold in 1907 and 08.

Below is a copy of the October 1907 accounts receivable ledger:
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Very interesting Rob. Here is the rest of the letter on the backside of the photo. It’s dated December 29, 1905 IMG_2154.jpeg

Good article on the record run:

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Sale price was $43,000

Posted for when the link doesn't work.

Chris

You can even see the decal.