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- Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:56 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Buying/bringing a T from Canada T into the USA
- Replies: 10
- Views: 661
Re: Buying/bringing a T from Canada T into the USA
Canada/US land border crossing are presently closed, with the exception of essential workers, due to COVID. Even in normal times you cannot cross without a passport. Consult with a Bonded Customs Broker re the correct procedure to have a vehicle cleared through US Customs
- Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:35 am
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Parts ID
- Replies: 18
- Views: 1056
Re: Parts ID
Looked it up on Steiner Antique Tractor Parts and you are right. It has the same size threads as the one I have .
- Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:26 am
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: 26/27 patent plate
- Replies: 6
- Views: 291
Re: 26/27 patent plate
Does anybody know of a source for the Canadian version of the 26-27 Patent Plate? Mine is so corroded it is unreadable.
- Sat Feb 13, 2021 8:21 am
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Parts ID
- Replies: 18
- Views: 1056
Re: Parts ID
Thanks Mike. Sure looks like it. Do you know the thread size for the 8n axle? My tractor experience is pretty much limited to a Farmall Cub and more recently with a John Deere 40c Crawler. Different animal altogether especially when it comes to final drives.
- Fri Feb 12, 2021 1:19 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Parts ID
- Replies: 18
- Views: 1056
Re: Parts ID
Allan, thanks for your usual knowledge and insight. I took a closer look at both jacks today and it appears that the "flip-top" jack that I have is not the heavy version used for TTs. Both jacks are about the same weight and similar structure. The handles on both have "Auto Specialties Mfg. Co." on ...
- Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:48 am
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Parts ID
- Replies: 18
- Views: 1056
Re: Parts ID
I thought you would probably comment on this Allan. This jack was in our 27 Canadian Touring when we bought it but is not in very good condition. One of my future projects. The jack I keep in the car is what I think is a TT jack with the "flip top". I was surprised to see the CANUCK name on the car ...
- Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:33 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Parts ID
- Replies: 18
- Views: 1056
Re: Parts ID
You're right RajoRacer. The gear is a perfect match for the one on my jack. By the way the jack I have is from Auto Specialties and has the name CANUCK on it. Is it probably a Canadian only jack?
- Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:32 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Parts ID
- Replies: 18
- Views: 1056
Re: Parts ID
RajoRacer. I'll check my 27 Touring again tomorrow. Do you know where they would be located?
- Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:49 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Parts ID
- Replies: 18
- Views: 1056
Re: Parts ID
Hey Dan. I think you are right. I will check tomorrow against one of the jacks that I have. Makes sense with the spiral groove in the center.
- Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:30 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Parts ID
- Replies: 18
- Views: 1056
Re: Parts ID
RajoRacer. You're right. I had forgotten about that. I bought some a few years ago for the cutting edge on my dozer blade. They were a little bigger than these but same idea.
- Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:52 am
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Parts ID
- Replies: 18
- Views: 1056
Re: Parts ID
More pics
- Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:50 am
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Parts ID
- Replies: 18
- Views: 1056
Parts ID
I started sorting through a bucket of what were supposed to be Model T bolts, nuts and misc. hardware. Mostly trying to salvage any useable castle nuts, thick head bolts, square nuts, etc. Pretty rusty but the molasses is doing a great job so far. I can't identify the items in the pictures below. Th...
- Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:50 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Nickle Plated or Not
- Replies: 4
- Views: 505
Re: Nickle Plated or Not
Yes. On my Canadian 27 Touring they are nickel platted Robertson head.
- Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:38 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: NOS???
- Replies: 17
- Views: 908
Re: NOS???
There is also a difference between NOS and NORS. NOS is a never used part manufactured by the original auto manufacturer. NORS (New Old Replacement Stock) is a never used part manufactured by an aftermarket manufacturer. Some overlap here because lots of times the aftermarket manufacturer may have b...
- Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:50 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: 1927 Steering Column Attachment
- Replies: 4
- Views: 371
Re: 1927 Steering Column Attachment
OK. That's what I thought. I'll go through my box of T bolts. If I can't find one, I'll cut and drill the long one. Thanks for the info
- Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:51 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: 1927 Steering Column Attachment
- Replies: 4
- Views: 371
1927 Steering Column Attachment
I am just reinstalling my steering column after repairing the loose rivet situation at the top. Guess I wasn't paying attention when I removed the column. There are 2 different length bolts that are used to attach the mounting flange on the column to the lower flange on the frame. I don't see any re...
- Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:43 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Shipping T parts
- Replies: 51
- Views: 2623
Re: Shipping T parts
Sent some manuals from Canada to Mass on Dec 8, arrived on Dec 14 via Canada Post/USPS. Great Service! Didn't even have to self-isolate. Recipient could read them right away. Merry Christmas everyone, from the great white north. Pretty good weather so far up here. Some friends of my grandson's were ...
- Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:53 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: How well will a carport protect our Ts?
- Replies: 21
- Views: 1270
Re: How well will a carport protect our Ts?
The other thing to think about is critters. I used to keep my Touring outside with a cover in the summer, here in Canada, until mice ate a hole in the upholstery and then hornets made a nest in the hole. Not fun. Not on a T, but I once had a porcupine chew through a rubber propane hose on an RV. The...
- Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:52 am
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Battery carrier tool...old school
- Replies: 16
- Views: 910
Re: Battery carrier tool...old school
Dan, I have one like that as well. I didn't keep the sales receipt but I know it's at least from the 1960's. Great design and well made. I misplaced it for a while and bought a newer version that isn't nearly as good.
- Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:43 am
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: #115 Lamp
- Replies: 1
- Views: 252
#115 Lamp
I am looking at a "black and brass" lamp marked Ford 115. It has three round lenses, clear, red and blue. Am I correct in assuming that this is a Jno. Brown manufactured lamp and is intended as a tail lamp? Only the font is brass. What years would it have been used on?
- Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:42 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Model t as a daily in the early 40s?
- Replies: 50
- Views: 2060
Re: Model t as a daily in the early 40s?
When my Dad and I bought our 1927 T Touring in the early 60's, it had 1947 plates on it and we received the 1944 Registration with it so I assume it was still on the road in the 40's. Both the owner and his brother were listed as owners on the registration. I was told that the reason for doing this ...
- Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:42 am
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Model t as a daily in the early 40s?
- Replies: 50
- Views: 2060
Re: Model t as a daily in the early 40s?
I was born in 1939 so I don't remember this but my Dad and grandfather told me that up until about 1940, a gentleman in our summer cottage community used his Model T to commute back and forth from the city. It would have been about 7 miles each way. They said they used to laugh at the way the car bo...
- Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:22 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: 1930 Model T ad in North Carolina
- Replies: 6
- Views: 668
Re: 1930 Model T ad in North Carolina
According to the spec information I have this would be a Model LS, late 1930 1 1/2 ton Chev which came with either single or dual rear wheels. There is no Model T listed for any year Chev trucks or any 1 ton models for 1930, only 1/2 ton and 1 1/2 ton. Looks like a nice truck.
- Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:46 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Did bumpers come with the car originally?
- Replies: 8
- Views: 628
Re: Did bumpers come with the car originally?
Just to confirm what Mark says, I have a 1927 Canadian touring car that came without bumpers. I also have the remains of another 1927 Canadian Touring which has original front and rear bumpers. Both cars came with Kelsey wooden spoke wheels so I guess upgrade packages weren't offered like today.
- Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:37 am
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Steering gear case play
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1676
Re: Steering gear case play
Thanks everyone for the information and suggestions. Allan, I tried the hacksaw approach as a temporary? fix and was able to drive in one piece of blade and that seemed to eliminate all the play. No room left for a piece of blade on the other side. Anyway, I'll see how it lasts and if I have any mor...
- Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:39 am
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Jiggling spokes
- Replies: 6
- Views: 1331
Re: Jiggling spokes
Just a tip. Make sure you know where your wheels, or your car, were manufactured. My car is Canadian built with Canadian Kelsey wheels, and spokes for US wheels will not fit. Your best route may be to find a wheelwright in your area who can rebuild your wheels using your old spokes for a pattern. I ...
- Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:34 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Steering gear case play
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1676
Re: Steering gear case play
Thanks to everyone for all the great info and advice. Looks like the original rivets for the 27 are .155" steel which Big Flats lists as 5/32" so I assume I should get some 3/16" rivets and drill the original holes to fit. I will also remove the column to do the job so the riveting can be done prope...
- Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:33 am
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Steering gear case play
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1676
Re: Steering gear case play
Thanks guys. "squirrel", I didn't use anything sophisticated to set the rivets, just a hammer and a steel block. Column was in the car at the time so difficult to do anything else. Maybe I will try larger rivets as suggested by humble j. Any idea of the correct size to order? What's the best way to ...
- Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:20 am
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Steering gear case play
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1676
Steering gear case play
What is the best way to cure play in the steering gear case to steering column. I have replaced the rivets but that didn't improve things much. I suspect the holes are worn. Are oversize rivets/bolts the answer? By the way it's a 27 if it make a difference.
- Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:19 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Calimer's Wheel Shop
- Replies: 9
- Views: 1526
Re: Calimer's Wheel Shop
Another happy customer. Bill did four 27 wheels for me a few years ago. Natural finish and they look great. I dropped them off to him at Hershey in Oct and picked them up at his shop in January. Great guy and terrific work
- Mon May 25, 2020 10:50 am
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: OT Ford Barn
- Replies: 3
- Views: 736
OT Ford Barn
Anyone know what happened to the Ford Barn? I haven't been able to access the site for several days. It had a great forum for Model A's which I have used many times for help on my current 31 Roadster project.
- Fri May 22, 2020 7:14 am
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Muffler installation
- Replies: 10
- Views: 1403
Re: Muffler installation
Thanks for all the great ideas. Alan, I didn't know about the cotter pin in the original Canadian pipe. Just one more thing that is unique to cars here in the great white north. By the way, snow has all but disappeared so no more snowmobiling for this year!
- Thu May 21, 2020 12:27 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Muffler installation
- Replies: 10
- Views: 1403
Muffler installation
I have an ongoing problem with keeping the (reproduction) muffler attached to the exhaust pipe in my 27 Touring car. I understand that a clamp is not required and that the muffler should just slip on the pipe and be held in place by the rear bracket. However, I have resorted to a clamp because of pr...
- Mon May 18, 2020 2:07 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: 15 millionth radiator question.
- Replies: 19
- Views: 2189
Re: 15 millionth radiator question.
Our 27 Canadian Touring had the 3 row "cold climate" radiator with the long fan hub. When I replaced the rad a few years ago with a brassworks 4 row, I had to install the shorter hub as well. When we bought the car 60 years ago, it had an original nickel plated rad shell. Don't know if this was stan...
- Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:31 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Unknown starter
- Replies: 8
- Views: 1424
Re: Unknown starter
If you can get access to a Dyke's Manual for the "teens", there is usually a chart that lists the make of generator/starters for each popular car. Westinghouse systems were used on several cars but it may be difficult to narrow down the exact car that this particular one was used on unless you can g...
- Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:50 am
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Diferences between 26and27
- Replies: 15
- Views: 2081
Re: Diferences between 26and27
Canadian made had different rules. Mostly black I think and wire wheels were an option. Rear seat cushion (bottom) was also shaped differently on 27. Not sure about 26
- Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:32 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Vaporizer carbs
- Replies: 5
- Views: 939
Re: Vaporizer carbs
I think vaporizers were stock from some time in 26 until end of production. My 27 is still running the stock vaporizer. I can't compare performance as it has had the vaporizer for all of the 60 years that it has been in our family. It appears that they are a little harder starting when cold than a c...
- Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:06 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Top socket rivet source?
- Replies: 1
- Views: 554
Re: Top socket rivet source?
Try Jim Dix www.bigflatsrivet.com I buy Model A rivets from him and he lists various length 5/16" solid rivets in his catalog
- Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:09 am
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Vaprizer outlet gasket
- Replies: 1
- Views: 539
Vaprizer outlet gasket
Does anyone know if the Vaporizer outlet tube gasket (Ford # 6270) is available anywhere or has anybody used anything else as a substitute? There is none on mine and it seems to work ok but thought maybe I should put one on. Maybe a proper size o-ring would work ok?
- Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:07 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Kelsey split rims
- Replies: 11
- Views: 1936
Re: Kelsey split rims
These are exactly like the rims on my 27. There are no fasteners on the pin, they are just friction fit and never seem to move once in place.
- Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:00 am
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: 26-27 Canadian and Ausie Bumpers
- Replies: 11
- Views: 1852
Re: 26-27 Canadian and Ausie Bumpers
I have the remains of a Canadian 1927 Touring with bumpers. No center clamp
- Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:53 am
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Interesting video
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1150
Interesting video
A video found by a member of our local T club. He doesn't know anything about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXoOFPjOBRI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXoOFPjOBRI
- Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:47 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Door Wood Kits
- Replies: 11
- Views: 1971
Re: Door Wood Kits
Ricky at Classic Wood is a good guy. ricky@classicwoodproductsllc.com
- Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:56 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Setting 3rd Brush
- Replies: 9
- Views: 2144
Re: Setting 3rd Brush
Just an update for the benefit of those who would like to try to repair their own generator. After many conversations with Ron Patterson and some trial and error on my part, it turned out that the insulation on the brush plate had failed the last time I tried to tighten the third brush adjustment ca...
- Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:32 am
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Setting 3rd Brush
- Replies: 9
- Views: 2144
Re: Setting 3rd Brush
Sorry, I made a mistake in my last post. The apparent short happens with the key off. The only way to stop it is to turn the battery disconnect switch off.
- Fri Aug 09, 2019 5:45 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Setting 3rd Brush
- Replies: 9
- Views: 2144
Re: Setting 3rd Brush
No, I didn't run the engine with the cutout disconnected. I know that can be disastrous. I could smell smoke so I turned the key off, removed the dash and turned the key back on. Wire from ignition switch to cut-out started to get hot. Shut key off and disconnected wire running to cutout. Turned key...
- Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:12 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Setting 3rd Brush
- Replies: 9
- Views: 2144
Re: Setting 3rd Brush
Regardless of how I adjusted the 3rd brush, output was still well in excess of 10 amp at road speed. Then suddenly, I think I discovered my problem. I have the notorious "smoke leak" in my wiring. I don't have a supply of smoke on hand to refill it so decided I had better find the problem. Pulled th...
- Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:40 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Setting 3rd Brush
- Replies: 9
- Views: 2144
Re: Setting 3rd Brush
Thanks guys. That's what I was hoping for. I'll post how I make out.
- Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:56 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Setting 3rd Brush
- Replies: 9
- Views: 2144
Setting 3rd Brush
On pursuing my problem with headlight bulbs failing as outlined in my earlier post, I have discovered that the nut holding the third brush plate is slightly loose, apparently allowing the brush to move, increasing the output to 10-12 amps. Can I just move the plate back to obtain a lower reading and...
- Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:27 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Headlight Bulbs Failing
- Replies: 10
- Views: 1930
Re: Headlight Bulbs Failing
Checked all wiring and connections as suggested. all good except one terminal on starter switch was a little loose. Won't seem to tighten without turning the bolt. I will take the switch off tomorrow and hopefully can fix it. If generator is still charging too high I will attempt to adjust 3rd brush...
- Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:23 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Headlight Bulbs Failing
- Replies: 10
- Views: 1930
Re: Headlight Bulbs Failing
Now that it has been brought up, I did notice lately that the ammeter has been showing a higher reading than normal. It used to run slightly over 5 amps with lights off and near zero with lights on. Now runs 10 amps and near 5 amps respectively. I haven't changed the 3rd brush adjustment. What would...
- Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:47 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Headlight Bulbs Failing
- Replies: 10
- Views: 1930
Headlight Bulbs Failing
I have never driven my 27 T much at night so have never had a problem with bulbs failing. However, our province just implemented a new law that if a car is not equipped with DRL (daytime running lights) then the headlights must be turned on whenever the car is being driven. In the past 2 weeks, 2 of...
- Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:54 am
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Gas Cap for 1924
- Replies: 17
- Views: 2651
Re: Gas Cap for 1924
Just another bit of useless info. The gas cap on my 27 is a brass rad cap from an early 1950's English Ford (Anglia or Prefect) identical to the original cap except brass with no vent hole. Has Ford script as well. I say useless info because these are probably harder to find now than original T caps...
- Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:34 am
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Have you had a drum failure ? POLL
- Replies: 47
- Views: 5667
Re: Have you had a drum failure ? POLL
Had a cataclysmic failure of a drum years ago in our 27 T. Just driving into the garage to store the car for the for the winter when there was a crash and everything locked up. Dragged it in and took it apart. I had never taken a T transmission apart before and I don't even know what drum it was but...
- Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:27 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Battery vs. Magneto
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1243
Re: Battery vs. Magneto
Still 6 volt. Field coil was new a few years ago and rebuilt coils from Ron Patterson. Car seems to run as well on battery as it ever did on magneto. As I mentioned in my original post, performance was originally better on mag than battery. It used to feel like it was holding back on battery and wou...
- Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:57 am
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Battery vs. Magneto
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1243
Battery vs. Magneto
I have had a 27 T for over 50 years. When we first got the car, I noticed that it would run noticeably smoother and have more power when switched over to mag. Over the years, everything on the car has been rebuilt-motor, trans, electrical system, etc. At some point it started running as well on batt...
- Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:05 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: "Asleep on the running board"
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1632
Re: "Asleep on the running board"
My Dad could never understand why they did away with runningboards in the late 30's. "Where do they expect you to sit to put your rubber boots on when you are going fishing?"
- Mon Jun 17, 2019 5:47 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Interesting tinny sound at startup
- Replies: 11
- Views: 2338
Re: Interesting tinny sound at startup
Loose through bolt allowing baffles to rattle?
- Tue May 21, 2019 1:46 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Model T accessory??
- Replies: 7
- Views: 1928
Re: Model T accessory??
Absolutely right Steve. These work very well as evidenced by the very precise grooves cut into the tie rod on our 26 Touring when we bought it.
- Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:15 am
- Forum: Forum Support Questions
- Topic: Icons
- Replies: 5
- Views: 2083
Re: Icons
Jeff, Thanks for the quick reply. You are right, if I click on "reload this page" the icons that I have read change color. A bit cumbersum but I assume if I just do this before I leave the forum each time the icons will get updated or do I have to do it each time I leave a particular topic?
- Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:48 am
- Forum: Forum Support Questions
- Topic: Icons
- Replies: 5
- Views: 2083
Icons
Icons don't change color to indicate topics that I have already read. All postings remain red. I am signed in What am I doing wrong?
- Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:57 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Top
- Replies: 3
- Views: 1343
Re: Top
Have you checked with Classtique? https://www.classtiqueupholstery.com/im ... en_Car.pdf
- Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:31 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: foot throttle
- Replies: 30
- Views: 5202
Re: foot throttle
Had one of the Fulton units on my 27 when we purchased it from the original owner. Removed it because I found it sloppy and difficult to regulate. Maybe it was worn out. I'll dig it out sometime and take another look at it.
- Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:22 pm
- Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
- Topic: Model T Shop Mule Tractor
- Replies: 14
- Views: 3255
Re: Model T Shop Mule Tractor
A little bit OT but in the early 50's my Dad used a model A based roller in a small paving company that he owned. I have a picture of it with me seated on it,