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Gentleman , thanks for all input, I have drilled fill plug & installed vent hose over fuel tank w/ catch bottle, getting some fluid after some miles.
One additional question.. all photos show brass vent location at rear of shift tower. Can it be installed at front area of the tower?

The Warford offered by Layne Machine Works build up internal pressure & weep oil out of the shift rail area. Layne puts in vents in all of their units now.

Looking for information on best location on the shift tower of Layne warford to drill & install the Layne supplied vent.
Thank you in advance.
John M
Oscoda, Mich

We are going to attend also, lucky to get a room at the host hotel. Sounds like a good time as usual. Hopefully NO SNOW with the polar vortex doing its thing.
John & Gloria
Oscoda, Mich
24 "C" Cab Pickup

WTB Bauer Name/Data Tag & attaching pins for an original tilt away steering wheel. I know they were remanufactured some years ago, but are hard to find. Thanks
John M
Oscoda, Mich

Just tried a solution to clean parts ...
Hot Water & Dawn x5 Powerwash dish soap.
Spray parts with Dawn, let set for a minute then brush in the hot water. 2nd application might be needed, but ECO friendly & easy to dispose of.
Worked well on 40yrs of grease & crud.

John M.
Oscoda, Mich

Hey Dan, Thanks for using my C Cab ( nice photo ) in your explanation of Blockley's. They are working good for me so far!!!!!
John Monticciolo
Oscoda, Mich

Yes, I installed the 1924 cab on a 26-27 chassis, and lowered IMG_1235.jpeg IMG_1237.jpeg ] the roof so it will fit in a standard garage. All original running gear with some modern upgrades for safety & convenience. Tried to use up surplus T parts before they end up in the scrap heap. The truck Henr...

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Here's some photo's & measurements from my 24 C Cab floorboards. Ordered from Lang's a few yrs ago. Waited over a year for their vendor to deliver, opted for hardwood but got 2 different types of oak. As you can see I added a foot throttle notch. The hinge in the middle helps installation. Hope this...

For got my number
586- 481- 8616
John Monticciolo

I will take the fat man steering wheel. Thank you. Please text me or call with address and info.

John Monticciolo
Oscoda Michigan

Sorry for the typos, search WOSP starter oil leak correction in the forum.
John M

I purchased a WOSP starter for my 24 T, from Snyder’s T parts. Installation was easy, works great with no problems with bendix. Only a slight problem with an oil leak ,see my correction in past posts , by looking up WOSP oil correction. I worked with Snyder’s on fixing the issue and I think the comp...

Snyder’s T parts in Ohio is where I purchased mine, fair price & fast delivery. Works great also.
John M
Oscoda,Michigan

The 12v LED Headlamp bulbs w/ adjustable base that Snyders sell , a little pricey but work very well, excellent lighting reach in front of vehicle.
John M
Oscoda,Michigan

Hey Folks , Thanks for the reply’s , I agree PayPal is the problem. But I want to confirm that Blockley Tyre is NOT the problem. The tires I ordered yesterday morning will be on my door step Monday afternoon. THANKS BLOCKLEY for the great products & service.
John M
Oscoda Michigan

I just want to update everyone on my experience ordering tires & tubes from Blockley. I went to their website and placed an order for 2 tires and tubes, got a shipping quote and proceeded to use a new Pay Pal account for payment. What a nightmare, it wouldn’t let me change the shipping address, then...

Gentlemen, just a question about Blockley Tires.. what mode of shipping do they use to send to the USA ( Fed Ex, UPS, US Postal Serv )
Thanks
John M
Oscoda, Michigan

I have WOSP starter with original magnets w/o a mag . No problem’s

John Monticciolo
Oscoda, Michigan

Don’t know about this year, but the last 2 years are :
Thursday - 95 miles
Friday - 75 miles
Saturday - 65 miles

Hey guys, why are you all responding to my message that’s “ 2 YEARS OLD “ !!! I’m sure there is a lot of important info out there that you can share. By the way the U-Haul works well, but I purchased a flat bed trailer after that.
Thanks for your advice on all other topics.

John
Oscoda Michigan

Thanks Everyone for the advice, it gives me some food for thought.
John
Oscoda, Michigan

Does anyone know of a stone guard available for tall T radiator? Did they ever use one?
With the price of a radiator these days it might be a good thing.
John
Oscoda, Michigan

I have a marine GPS speedometer from Cabelas approx $90.00. It is a 12v unit, just power & ground to install. Running with dist ignition, no issues.

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John
Oscoda Michigan

Sorry should have been posted on discussion page!

I purchased new seat spring assembly from Lang’s, then sent to trim shop for material installation. Very good results at a reasonable price. 1924 C Cab

John M
Oscoda Michigan

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Thanks Jeff, my top works good and the spacing of the north/south ribs align with our heads, you have probably seen me at the Michigan Jamboree.
John Monticciolo
Oscoda Michigan

Here is pictures of my C Cab roof before & after installation. It was built from scratch with white oak.

As a active Model T owner and Harley owner, I installed Pingle motor cycle wheel chocks on my wood deck open trailer. Purchased xtra hold down brkts so I can install 2 to line up with front T tires or just install 1 when transporting the motorcycle, or remove them all together for a open deck, No pr...

In previous posts it is mentioned that the high/low function doesn’t work because of socket & pin orientation. Snyders are selling LED headlamp bulbs with an adjustable base so contacts & socket pins line up. Has anyone purchased this bulb? Thanks John

Thinking of new LED headlight bulbs also, has anyone had any experience with the ones that Snyders’s are selling.
Thanks John M
Oscoda Michigan

I purchased a WOSP starter from Snyders’s to install on ‘24 T. I agree with all the positive comments from other posters, it doesn’t sound like old Mopar starter. The only problem was an oil leak thru the starter body, 2 starters installed with same problem , ( search WOSP starter oil leak correctio...

Thanks for all the replies, I have made up my mind and decided to leave my engine stock. “ Don’t fix it if it ain’t broke “

I was told Chevy piston’s… maybe not the case, but they are modern aluminum flat piston’s. Don’t know if the bore diameter has been changed, but I can check it.

Re: flat top pistons…
Aluminum modern piston (350 ci Chevy)

Thinking of installing a Prus head on 24 engine that is stock except for aluminum flat top piston’s - also running a Warford w/ standard gearing at rear. My vehicle is slightly heavier than most, extra power would help on hills but I don’t want to shoot my self in the foot here. Crankshaft & lower e...

I purchased a WOSP starter from Snyders, an oil leak at starter was noticed. Contacted Joe at Snyders.. a fresh starter at my door in 48 hrs. Replacement starter leaked also, contacted Joe, he in turn contacted WOSP. They provided info how to index the case on the 3 surfaces, remove the 2 Allen head...

POR-15 has exhaust manifold paint & other paint’s for engine’s, chassis also, they work very well. Web site is very helpful.
John M
Oscoda Michigan

Towing on an open trailer, a cover will beat the vehicle to death. I remove the hood and floor boards, & anything that you think will come loose. Purchased a cover made of evolution fabric to use overnight at tours. Have good results.
John M
Oscoda Michigan
1924 C cab truck

Jeff, my phone will be dead soon.. sending you a pm with my info & a alternative phone number, until I can replace the phone.

Sent PM - John Monticciolo
Oscoda, Michigan

I removed the front wheel spokes from the wheel. Didn’t remove the rear spokes from the wheel. Hand scraped all black off, light sand, stain w/golden oak, then coated with West System Marine Epoxy w/ slow activator.To keep the epoxy off the mating surface and the tips of the spokes, put Play Doe on ...

I will give you a call the beginning of February, Frostproof is only 20 minutes north of Sebring.
John Monticciolo
Oscoda, Michigan

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Howdy Dan, I am in Frostproof FLA for the winter, but sadly can’t bring my T south. John

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Built from swap meet parts & mostly all from Lang’s & Snyders. An experience too be sure, would do it again in a minute.
John Monticciolo
Oscoda Michigan

I agree with the other opinion’s. My vehicle is comfortable at 35 - 38 mph, over drive after 35 mph. I have standard gearing, aluminum pistons, original high head, w/12 volt distributor ignition.
John
Oscoda Michigan

Professional auto painter’s that I know have told me… paint the background color first , then put the color of the numbers in a flat pan and lower the plate just touching the face of the numbers and remove it, probably will take a few try’s to get it right.

Try Semichrome polish, old & trusted product and leaves a protective coating to slow oxidation. I believe it’s in Lang’s catalog.
John
Oscoda Michigan

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Started out as TT I am sure, got cab only at Daytona swap meet, then built from there with other swap meet and vendor parts.finished up June 21.

This sounds crazy but to keep stain & varnish from the flats and nipples on the spokes.. buy some PlayDough .. color doesn’t matter, spread it on the nipple and flats then put on the products , after everything dries just scrape off the play dough.. it will keep the surface clean for assembly. Belie...

Thinking about installing a hand wiper, already have the hole in the upper windshield frame. Is it worth the bother.. how’s the quality and fit of the repop parts available. Thanks for any opinion’s
John
Oscoda Michigan

Northern Michigan.. coolant protection to -20 degrees below, stabilizer in fuel w/85% full tank, battery on battery tender ( 1 amp max output ) & Cab Fresh Botanical Rodent Repellent..under hood and interior.
John
Oscoda Michigan

Warford not too noisy in 3rd, engine rpm drops some, but a original non balanced engine & drivetrain is noisy anyway. I am using 3.6 axle ratio w/ 80-90 gear lube in warford. I have had mine 41 - 42 mph, but the wood wheels hold speed down, balance beads smooth things out also. John 4BC901B7-2DBE-4F...

I wait until near 35 mph to shift into 3rd and flat roads only, mostly running in 2nd… top speed in any case is 35 to 38 mph. Works very well but still trying to get used to the short shift pattern, just will take time.
John
Oscoda Michigan

Had the same problem.. I used roll pins instead of cotter pins, smaller washers and enlarged holes in the frame - worked better. Also cut 2 loops off each spring.. still have plenty of tension to hold your hood during normal operation.. but I remove hood when on my open trailer at highway speed. Joh...

Tim, just ordered my replacement 12 volt alternator from Buckeye Antique Auto Electric $235.00 — they supply Langs, Snyders’s etc.
John Monticciolo
Oscoda Michigan
1924 C Cab

Tim, nice to meet you at the jamboree..
I had gear driven type, a nickel’s worth of lock tite could have saved me grief.

Needed a new alternator after the Michigan Jamboree, case bolts loosen up because of vibration on a T engine. They need lock tite ,didn’t get any at time of manufacture, originally purchased from LD Becker Norwalk Ohio. He is no longer in business.. his son’s took over the business, but are closed d...

Everything is new.. wheels,bolts, nuts, tires w/ balance beads. Thanks for the info

Does anyone use a mild locktite product on wheel lug nuts. I always check mine before driving, I find one or two slightly loose, less than a 1/8 turn. Just trying to keep things safe. Thanks

I used the large resv as you can see, tried Dot 5 fluid but could not keep it from leaking around the bleeder screws..using Dot 3 w/no issues.

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I am running a 12 volt system, no mag. I tried modern Motocraft plugs w/adapters, always getting a lot of soot. Installed Champion #25 plugs w/ .025 gap, runs & starts well,with very good color on plugs. I think the heat range is closer to original specs. Hopefully this helps you.

The problem with the Rajo oil indicator was just air trapped, everything working fine... nice quality accessory. Thanks John

I installed the Rajo oil indicator from T. Mosher, put in 4 qts of fresh oil - no movement of the indicator, how much xtra oil needs to be added? Thanks

I built this 1924 “ C “ Cab from swap meet parts, also lowered the roof line to 7ft. C Cabs of this time did come with a choice of high or low roofs. I hope this helps .
John
Oscoda Michigan

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Looking for ideas for locking down my “ C “ cab while on a tour, when vehicle is parked in hotel parking lot overnight & loading on trailer isn’t an option. Thanks for your help!!

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Finally finished varnishing & assembling the rear bed. Still waiting for rear fenders in September Ready for the July 4th parade today!
John Monticciolo
Oscoda Michigan

Welcome to the hobby, I am also a newby. Built my T from spare parts, chose to use a distributor, alternator, 12 volt, overdrive w/ hydraulic brakes. Everyone has an opinion, but the forum has excellent info. Just finishing up the build, waiting to go to the Michigan Jamboree in Bad Axe 8/25. John M...

Has anyone shortened the shift lever on a Layne Warford. If so what length is good,can it be done with out removing the shift assembly? This will make climbing in & out a bit easier. Thanks in advance for your help. John Monticciolo Oscoda, Michigan 24 C Cab Truck 0704093D-DF59-42B7-9003-82BED1844CE...

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Here’s a few pictures of my 1924 C Cab (early 24 ) I mounted on a car chassis and lowered the roof slightly so it would fit thru a 7ft door. Also the rectangle switch plate w/GPS marine speedo.

Well here’s an update on my McLaren wheels purchased around 2007. After dismounting the spare I found the lug was welded on the inside. Thanks Mark McLaren for a professional product! I really did need the practice breaking down the tire anyway!!!!! John Monticciolo Oscoda, Michigan 5E1ECF61-2344-45...

Hey thanks for the input, going to start dismounting all the tires & finding a good welder to fix things right soon. POR 15 should have a coating that could work, have used their products for years with excellent results. Will post the results when finished.

Kevin, that thread is exactly what I am referring to.. I purchased the wheels in the 2007 time frame, just got the T on the road last summer. Now that I am back home for summer, just had opportunity to look at the lugs and I think I have the same issue.
John

Just examined my McLaren wheels, they need the lugs welded to be safe. Has anyone taken the next step and had the welding done? Back side of wheel or both sides? Also what have you done about the galvanize that gets removed during welding. Thanks
John Monticciolo
Oscoda, Michigan

I had same issue... I used West System Marine Epoxy, need to use the SLOW activator. Also spread old fashion PLAY DOE around the top nipple & the flats of the mating surface of the spoke. The play doe won’t let stain or epoxy in that area, simply chip away after it dries.

Another great tribute to Jack a wonderful gentleman. Too bad I couldn’t make it this year, looks like everyone had a great time. I hope to participate next year with my recently finished C cab truck.
John Monticciolo
Oscoda Michigan
(formally Clay Twp)

24 C Cab almost finished,just stain & rear fenders next.. built from loose parts-20 yr project
John
Oscoda Michigan

Floor boards & seats removed for transport. Going to remove trans cover today and check band conditions. This vehicle is a fresh build with more driving in the last few weeks than before, with no problems. The next day after unloading, let vehicle idle on driveway, then normal reverse and forward op...

I do have a warford, but have been driving around for a time, no problem. Can oil level in sump change because of bouncing during towing & oil level stabilized during warm up on level surface.

After a 400 mile transport on flat bed trailer, no reverse, had to push off trailer. Reverse working the next day after a slight warm up in drive. Any thoughts? Thanks
John Monticciolo
Oscoda Michigan

Like I posted , using POR -15 on my spring leaves before assembly the smooth surface is working very well with no squeaking . It’s the closest product you can get,short of power coat & it brushes on. They offer chassis, engine, heat resistance coatings in many colors. Can’t say enough about this pro...

When I assembled my springs, I painted them with POR -15, will last for years and NO SQUEAKING.

Thanks everyone for all information . Will be renting a U Haul open car hauler.
John

Has anyone had experience towing a T on a U Haul open trailer? Comments welcome!
Thanks
John Monticciolo
Oscoda Michigan

Corvette Guy, I have a brand new repop Moto Meter that I purchased to install on my 24’ C cab. Decided not to use it...Smooth Chrome Jr Meter w/ Ford logo & small wings. $ 80.00 includes postage in 48 states of USA
John Monticciolo
Oscoda, Michigan

Just installed a new Bergs radiator in my 24 C cab does anyone have any ideas for a radiator grill, like the ones on model A’s. The new rad’s aren’t getting any cheaper. Thanks in advance
John Monticciolo
Oscoda, Michigan

I used POR 15 with very good results, but you need to follow the directions. Sand blasted frame,then prep with their cleaner and used their prep to etch the metal, brushed gray base coat,then brushed on their chassis black, both products flow out well. Did the same on engine and trans, the engine pa...

I used a heavy flat file & air die grinder with a coarse 3M pad. Installed rear hdy disc brakes, had to cut and true drums along with grinding linings to get drums to slide on and turn freely.
John
Oscoda Michigan

I have the same problem, it took a lot of time sanding down the lining .. got a sweet spot at the lever w/ the rear levers position correct. Hope the conditions improve over time, but the hand lever doesn’t have the travel that is normally observed. Thanks for opinions..
John
Oscoda Michigan

I am sure this topic has come up before, what original type spark plug would work best in 1924 engine with electronic distributor 12 volt ignition,aluminum pistons. Rock Auto has Champion 425 & 525 available . Thanks for your opinion.
John Monticciolo
Oscoda Michigan

Darryl, I am also in need of a TT jack handle, if the price is good.
Thanks
Nunsio1 - John Monticciolo
Oscoda, Michigan

Just another option for speedometer...
12volt marine gps speedo, pos & neg hook up only. Purchased at Cabela’s - $90.00
John Oscoda Michigan

I have a 24 C cab with a wood roof, tried kits but they didn’t fit, made it from scratch. Covered it with convertible top material. Have pictures of wood top before covering with material only.Photo’s upside down (first attempt) Sorry!

John
Oscoda, Michigan

I am running disc brakes w/safety hubs, the install of hubs easy. The install of brakes straight forward,except the drums were warped badly because of heat during welding. Had to have drums turned quite a bit, and shaping the new brake lining and trying to find some one that still have the equipment...

Scott:Thanks for the information-very helpful.
John..Oscoda Michigan

I have hardwood floor boards for my 24 C cab on back order with Langs for almost 2 years. All ways have had good service and parts from them but wondering if there is a different option, or someone that has prints so I can make them myself, when I need them in spring. Thanks for any help.

I have used POR -15, very good product, brush on, or spray on, bulletproof, flexible, etc- used by auto restoration pro’s.Web site very informative

I have used both products for years, Sea Foam is very good but is used as a fuel cleaner, also can be used in oil to clean crankcase. Sta Bil is used as a fuel treatment for off season storage, but it will only last 1 season & needs to be redone for the next season.

I installed a foot throttle ,after warford also - works very well & easy to install , purchased it form Texas T Parts at the time , I think it is still available through Bird Haven supply.

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