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Lamps. The one on the right (with magnet) has unusual steel top but otherwise complete with brass top font and burner. No cracks in glass or brass. The other, left side 110, has a dent in black painted top of chimney and back panel. This one has no burner an no cracks in glass or brass Best offer ov...

Pat’ Dec 9, 1908…Original paint and perfect condition. Complete. No cracks in glass or brass. Believe for 1913-1914 Ford. Only $200 + shipping.
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No name. Beautiful brass & glass. No cracks or dents. Has burner. Entire chimney nickel plated brass as is entire font
Beautiful multifaceted glass in rear. Only $125 + the ride.
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I know what the are !! They’re $10 @ pair Swap Meet brackets

I think the only way to have your question answered is to either research Accessions on your own at THF or pay a volunteer there $35. I’m fairly sure this hasn’t previously been discovered. Pat will surely offer his conjecture. Personally I’ve restored my ‘14 windshield frames to glossy black. Then ...

Rob,… now thats a hobby exit with panache ;o)..Sorry to see you go however. You and Winnie were great tour compadres and our great friends. With advancing age I’m also nonselecting my ‘14 runabout’s crank handle more often and enjoying my ‘50 Ford tudor on bucolic rural roads.

Yes, and fairly unusual windwings

Last photo: Rare example of all brass painted black. Thank you Tom. These are jewels.

Interesting 4th from the bottom roadster. There’s something about that cowl that doesn’t look right and the hood looks newer. ‘15-‘16 ? due to flat LR fender ? And the windshield & brackets are unlike anything I’ve ever seen…..”Hub dust cover ? I don’t need no stinkin hubcap”

Good choice colonel. Plan the work and work the plan. A ‘17 engine is valuable (especially if spark plugs were installed). Even Alan from Down Under admitted to using JB Weld to change casting date on a late teen T engine to use in a brass T. …….

White wonderland - black RPU… beautiful contrast

Yep. Tractor w/ front end loader, chains and chain saw is all you’ll need. Once the frame is on jackstands at my house, I’d love to be the one to get the “newly rebuilt engine” running. OP said the deceased T owner was his friend so, in my estimation, theres no getting around his brother’s request.

Respectfully speaking John; I cannot align with your confusion. The A.I. monster told me there was 7,000 Ford dealerships in the US in 1912 so we may assume that number increased over the next 3-4 years. So if Wayne states “quite a number of Ford dealers were switching the electric lamps out” and St...

That’s about a 1907 Ford model N with a very unusual mother-in-law seat. First one I’ve seen on an N. Quite ubiquitous on the Rs and Ss. Also the poor fitting top was an accessory and thats the only N I’ve seen with landau arms. Photo #6 is another N. I think; judging by lack of runningboard in the ...

Is photo # 9 a ‘15 or ‘16 touring with retrofitted hood and radiator of the ‘black era’? And the 2nd to last photo of the 2 ladies in a roadster appears to be similar ?? Thanks for the photos and this puzzlement Tom.

Yes Bill, there is a Santa Claus…It’s called Heartland Ts of OKC… e-mail David Powell at dpowell929lb@hotmail.com
…Also; consider joining MTFCA

French side curtain ad ?

That’s an early Form-a-Truck style extension of a pre ‘23 roadster, you can clearly see the left rear chain and sprocket by that child’s store bought toy car.

‘Gasoline’ is written on the tank and it appears a metal box in the rear contains the valves…regular, mid grade and Premium ??…

Thank you Greg; and may I take this opportunity, on your thread, to wish you, yours and all our Forum friends a very Merry Christmas !

…and my coffin won’t have a trailer hitch.

Wow ! That was cool ! Fords thru the years 1896-1909 driving thru Greenfield.

That’s a mighty big “if” Mark. Any evidence out there of a Ford dealership of the era Also selling aftermarket wood TT cabs ? I believe they only sold TT chassis until Ford offered the C cab.

That thang just needs a starter, generator, water pump and distributor !!………….

…Just funnin, of course. That’s the most beautiful T I’ve ever seen and could stand and look at it for hours. Thanks for sharing.

… and an outside oil line ! ;o)

I think that fenderless touring in the fifth photo invented the first ‘burn out.’ If the next photo (6th) is actually a Ford dealership, I find it odd that an aftermarket wood body TT is there.

Oooops… forgot the photo.

Allan, I respectfully submit that your ‘replacement’ theory is leading to misinformation. I’m 2nd owner of this roadster and performed meticulous research on various components before restoring. Besides, there has been much previous discussion on this Forum attesting to the originality of that slot ...

Howdy Brent,… Sorry but I can’t help on your New and Improved touring question :roll: But I can share how i meticulously restored my New and Improved roadster. The 5/16” bolts are 3/4” long and the heads (like your picture) are a little less diameter than hardware store offerings. See the machine sc...

SOLD!..thank you Chris and MTFCA

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Vendors sell petcock for >$30

Tom,

If I take “around” to mean on the horizontal, we call it the ‘belt line’.

And 7th from the bottom. The pair of 1913s. Both toneau covers are tight - but, is that a homemade turtledeck ?

Third from the bottom ‘16 touring could be titled ‘Girls Gone Mudding.’ Nice fit of splash apron to LR fender tho.

Ya sure, you betcha Erik ! That wood body is a Schurmeier from Minnesota by golly !

…Original, polished up, with operable petcock and intact glass.
Only $25 + free shipping in lower 48
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I’m amazed those white smooth tires didn’t give a “hitch” in 4200 miles…

Thanks for the era photos Tom. I don’t usually care for speedsters but the white speedster 8th from the bottom is interesting. The windshield, I believe, was salvaged from a Dodge open car and only the top half frame was used. And see how they patched up between cowl curvature and stanchion ? Is the...

Here you are Art. Like Jerry said. The elongated ‘rivet’ appears about 1/8” from both sides of the hinge - with the pin evidently being inserted from the left and right side.

Oh, now I see the pictures ! It looks a whole lot nicer than what I pictured in my mind’s eye. Wood wheels look nice / tires hold air. I agree with $500.

Depends….if it transitioned from a 1914 or before T, I pay $600. If from a ‘20s something, I’d pay $50. But, if it fits in with another hobby (old tractor), I’d pay up for it. I once bought a Model T hay wagon maintained outside in a fairly arid climate. Bought it for the man’s price - $25. Had nice...

I’m halfway to you from the Left Coast. I’d sell one for $30 but it would cost the same to FedEx it.

That’s it Dan ! That’s exactly what I need ! I’ll definitely get those CDs if that kind of information is found. April 4 and June 11,1914 was the Accessions I was looking for. Many thanks

Thank you Dan. I’ll send for Bruce’s set of 2 CDs. I used to have the Accession dating the end of aluminum crank handles in 1914 and the introduction of cast iron crank handles. I believe it was in April 1914. Bruce’s Encyclopedia on our site is vague when it states for 1914, “Aluminum formed handle...

Henry Lee said “The rounded trim is actually for boats.”
Not so fast Hank. Here is an example of quite a bit of rounded trim I acquired off a salvaged 1910-1911 REO.

Friends,… I’ve researched to the best of my limited ability to find Accession ‘scriptures’ on the I Net - to no avail. Specifically I/we should be interested in production changes during the Model T era. How difficult must it be to computerize this ? Or has it already been done ?

Don,… There exists a number of “TT experts” on this Forum. I’d recommend you start a new thread here titled something akin to ‘Heres What We Have, Whatsit Worth’? Then describe the TT -With Pictures- and you’ll receive many ‘expert’ replies.

Price reduced to $32.50 !!

Very good.. thank you Kurt and Larry. Now to go to the little brass screw drawer. Don’t worry; they won’t be those horrid Phillips head screws….

Spoken for pending payment. Thank you Wayne and MTFCA

I love the wind wings.. an no stinkin isinglass.

Thank you Kurt. So they’re vertical on the right side and horizontal on the left side ? I received some good information from Larry Smith too. Anybody else ?

Welcome home Dave. I’m very sorry you’ve lost quite a bit of family, but gladdened you’ve come back to your Model T family…….

Now thats exhibiting discipline- to not sit on the hood.

Also restored and installed a ‘Thermador’ “swamp cooler” on my ‘50 Ford. Given to me by a TX Panhandle friend where climate is arid and they worked well. Now in a more humid climate and it’s just for looks.
Who remembers these ?

SOLD… thank you David and MTFCA

Thats someone’s beautiful trophy Corey. And it’s been test run on a T engine !

Pat’d Dec 9, 1908 Original Black paint. No chips or cracks in blue, red or clear glasses. Complete with operable burner. Panel just below lamp square and above font is painted over brass. Doesn’t appear to stand erect but should mount well. Only $85 + FedEx
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Nice shape. Only $40 + FedEx.
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Believe later “boot scraper” style. See elongated carriage bolt hole. Others are good. Only $32.50 + FedEx
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None are “pairs”. Burners on left and right $40 each. Burner in middle $50. Free mailing in lower 48 in bubble envelopes. gwhouse731(at)gmail(dot)com

Believed never used but black rubber hose is rotten. Air valve and PSI dial is operable. Handle is 2 piece. Only $40 plus ‘the ride’. gwhouse731(at)gmail(dot)com

….precise placement of brass Murphy fasteners on a 1914 firewall. I have sheet And cast Murphy fasteners. Presume the latter.. Many thanks

Broke a tooth off 1911 Hupp pinion. Decided to replace rear end internals & driveshaft with Model T ‘guts’. Went from 4:1 ring/pinion to 3.63:1. A new Hupp friend in OR made the adapter plate enabling the T ring gear.

I used 5 dabs of Permatex - 2 at the bottom 2 ends of the rope and 3 spaced evenly. I liked the idea of scotch tape temporarily.

Some KW. Some Ford. Only $50 Gently used. + free delivery lower 48. gwhouse731(at)gmail(dot)com

William, I might have the front socket you’re looking for. It’s part of a broken set and it’s 33” like Mark’s diagram. Heres 2 photos of it leaning against a down pipe on my roof water catchment system. Comments ??

I wholeheartedly agree Michael ! But why won’t you trade Greenland to us for California ?

… for your project. Excellent 2 piece frames and glass channels are 39” long and 21” high. Plate glass removed (recommended) upon request and 2 frames shipped for only $75 + FedEx.
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Frank is educating me/us again ! I didn’t even know there was numbers and letters on the back. Most have a much higher mileage than your illustration tho. But here they are hi-speed wire brushed.

Spoken fer pending $$. Thank you Noel and MTFCA

Once again, see the ‘Diving Helmet’ reflector and vent holes at chimney base ? But this lamp includes a font and operable nickel plated burner WITH a wick. Change out the rim and chimney top to brass to make it a 1915. Only $70 + the ride.. gwhouse731(at)gmail(dot)com

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Its been a week since first posting, so this’ll be the only **btt** until this ad falls into obscurity

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Price lowered ! Lost storage !

Price lowered to $105 each

Price lowered to $40

I’m perplexed by photo #12. The coupe with fancy wire wheels that has rope woven through the wheels and tires. The rear wheel has a greater amount of rope and the runningboard baggage implies the T is on a trip. But is it for winter traction ? Thanks for the most interesting photos Tom.

I guess it was back in ‘94 when the wife & I enjoyed the SE corner of Colorado. As I’m a live steam fan, we rode the train from Durango to Silverton. Was told the fireman shoveled nearly 2 tons of coal for the train to increase in elevation into Silverton. No wonder his shoulders seemed 5 feet wide....

Spoken for. Thank you COL Russ and for all your advice and restored components made available to the hobby.

Spoken for… Thank you Bill and MTFCA

Swivel not cracked, swollen or chipped. Rotating the great condition small gear rotates other end of cable that attaches to Speedo ‘head’. Cable sheath is steel.
Only $ 115 + USPO medium flat rate….
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Good information Frank. Thanks. Here’s a photo of the ‘profile’ of a few. Need more ?….Have several 2846 B also. Anyone need em ?

…..in original leather case. Model A style I think.
Must sell. Need the room. Only $30 freight included
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Glossy black spiders and meticulously restored Fordite rims
Only $105 each + FedEx actual. Have TWO !
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No manufacturer ID. Would welcome identification.
Only $40 + USPO small flat rate for all 6.
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Captured nut. See ‘K’ upper left every unit - Kelsey ?
Only $30 + USPO small flat rate.
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…. see the correct ‘diving helmet’ reflector and vent holes at base of chimney. In excellent shape. Steel chimney top makes it a ‘16 but replace it w/ brass for a ‘15. Sandblasted and in primer. For inexpensive ‘restore’, simply mask hamp and paint reflector with Krylon chrome. Only $40 + shipping. ...

… old reproduction. You drill holes. Presumably for 1911-12 but would look great on a speedster or depot hack. Only $40 s&h included lower 48. gwhouse731(at)gmail(dot)com

Interesting era side curtains on that touring in the 2nd photo..
I didn’t realize they offered such visibility back then. Perhaps
‘Canadian sourced’ ?

That was a fun run

Thanks ! And pretty scenery

I’m with you Bryant

I probably have 8-9 frames, rear ends/driveshaft/torque tube/radius rods that I’d let go for $25-$45 each but Won’t scrap them. Wonder how many 1909 engines went into WWII scrap drives ?

Sorry Todd….. I deleted the photos soon as his check cleared.

“I have lost a lot of time waiting to do things the proper way.”

Duncan OK swap meet seemingly had good buyer with cash traffic last March. I made good money there - but mainly on small parts I could sell in USPO flat rate boxes from home. Also drove 6 hours to get there with 7 good T fenders and only sold 1. Also had restored rear taper leaf spring for $200 and ...

And that same wrench is useful in adjusting an NH straight thru. Might even work on an NH humpback too. When I’m ready for a drive, I turn on the gas. Hand crank/choke it 2-3 times, grab my trusty T 2335 out of the toolbox to tap the carb 4-5 times until the stuck needle loosens up. ;o)

…… and chose Here because MTFCI has no Forum (and I’m not on Facebook). Specifically, the excellent and informative article on the 1915 sedan. As a 45 year owner of a ‘19 centerdoor and nearly 60 year Model T hobbiest, I learned a whole lot ! Was surprised to see a dome light this early….magneto lig...

Awww… thanks for the recognition Steve. But I can’t find my calendar now.

Beautiful Springtime rally

I love the multi colors - and the uncommon (to me) body styles. Thanks Allan

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