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Good job !

They’re OK. I’ve received texts from both of ‘em. They rode out the hurricane in Destin and only suffered “minor damage”. They were even able to help a friend push a Model A into a trailer. LOTS of rain and 92 MPH winds...

I have. It’ll lift 1914-1925 frames. Even with bodies and spare tire carriers. I’m through restoring. For sale $60 + shipping

“Now people are searching for them” Dan ?
I have 3 gorgeous square fellow wood excellent rims 30x3 wheels in primer with hubs I’d sell.....

Howdy Scott,
Yeah, the body is standard size but all the rest of the sheet metal is wide track wider. It’s s very unique maintained original brass T.

Here’s a ‘15 Ford wide track. Note the spring perches are 4” from the spindle yokes making the tread 60” instead of 56”.

Why deny a 40 HP engine to the Model A guys. Go for a Pinto engine. Nobody wants them....just sayin’

Good story Terry. Thanks for sharing....

You might have something there Dan. I removed the spare tire on my centerdoor and it does indeed have a rectangular ‘notch’. We may assume the wheels, rims and tires were installed before the STC was bolted (8 bolts !) onto the frame. Whether it was Highland Park or River Rouge an astute assembler h...

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Does your coilbox have a little sliver of metal between #2 and 3 coils thats use is to pull the front and rear of the box together ? It’s surprising to me how many coil boxes have lost this essential piece in the last 100 years. Even if its present in your box warpage might’ve kept the coil ‘buttons...

Pre-tattoo days ??

Well I’ll be darn. Never seen that repro in the catalog or ever heard of this accessory. Twice in my 54 year Model T hobby I’ve had one engine rebabbited and another 3rd main replaced. Thanks guys !! Mark, you’ll get yours tomorrow

I should also have said I removed the 2 bolts fastening the cam gear cover but still couldn’t remove the cover. Finally used a screwdriver to pry up the bronze accy....

I dismantled a November 1919 engine to free it up for sale and found this. Removed the manifolds, head, tranny cover, crankcase, tranny and field coil. Problem was evidently in the 4th main. Anyway, was annoyed I couldn’t simply remove the cam gear cover. Upon further inspection I found this bronze ...

And while we’re in the STC subject....I either read or heard a long time ago that the circular STC for 23” rims was reserved for sedans only ??.. using this tidbit of (mis)information, I Restored one for use on my ‘19 centerdoor. Would this be anatomically correct ?

😂 Excellent informative reply Steve...That’s a 2 part spare tire carrier made available in late ‘25 for the ‘New and Improved’ models. The curved round part is commonly called the “gooseneck”. See where it mounts to the rear spring hangers with 4 holes. The other part, commonly called a “Y”, is fair...

OK.... the ‘Ayes’ have it.... actually first responder has it

....with bubble wrap credit to Mr. Treace. Thanks everyone !!

....its fairly light but ungainly and awkward. I have to send it several states away. ... .any ideas ? box ?

2 big, long U bolts. Ford Truck lengths that run parallel w/ frame rests on rear crossmember between 2 sets of 2 boltholes. Nuts tighten on long U bolts under crossmember.

Yes. They work very well. But ensure your pitman arm ball is perfectly round. For a tighter fit - with a round pitman arm ball - you may want to consider filing on the cap or the drag link itself...

Very interesting that the engine is a ‘27 model year but the absence of a headlamp bar places the T in early ‘26 model year. Interesting Cowl lights too !

How many and what size castle nuts do you need Ignacio ? I’ve made it a point to collect and set aside T castle nuts over the years. Stop by on your next trip to SA...

I’m very sorry for your pain and suffering Mark but I must seek the causation of it....spark lever advanced ?...incorrect commutator linkage causing a too far advanced timer ? You using a distributor ?

Thank you for posting this very timely and important reminder Mark. I say timely because of the many recent new ( and sometimes young ) new Forum members. Model T s are inherently dangerous for “newbies” but are also the source of great fun when techniques are adopted. When I stop the T and turn off...

I simply turn my key to MAG for short trips in a trailer. It won’t rattle out and I won’t lose many of the netos in Magneto. For longer trailering I remove it.

So....Darel; when the “bell up” horn gets filled with rainwater, does it have to be removed and emptied ?

....should be in the Smithsonian with all the other national treasures. Gorgeous work Stan !!

...and his brass horn is upside down and the driver can’t reach the carbide generator. What a waste..

Oh yeah, the Warford and Muncie have neutrals. But you don’t ever want to be in their neutrals while the T is underway. You’ll have no service brakes (T tranny)...By placing the T tranny in neutral, one can develop the technique of shifting the accy tranny without grinding gears.

Yes... I feather the clutch into neutral with my left foot when I shift my original Warford

What a sad demise to a wonderful Forum Friend. I thoroughly enjoyed his postings here and sometimes crusty advice. Shared experiences and best practices edifies all. Prayers of Gods grace and comfort to his family...

Theo, I don’t know the correct color of coolant hose for your year T but this was good advice I received years ago:.. use modern hose clamps that you can crank down with a socket/ratchet. Run the engine to operating temperature to enable rubber to adhere. Then remove modern hose clamps and install o...

Thanks for the copy of the instructions Dan. I’ve copied them to a folder. We get that question every few months. I’ve answered it several times in multi-paragraph form. In October when we’ll probably get it again we can just send your instructions. Very good !

John, reference the picture. He doesn’t have a flatbed. He has a “nobed”

Welcome to the worldwide club Lisa. I admire your thoughtful approach to Model T ownership. Learn about the various systems in a T and peculiar engineering as compared to other cars of the twenties. You’ll find plenty of good mentors in Southern California. Others on this site will give you more spe...

Assuming you use the mag post accy outside oil line like I use, it’s the bolt hole immediately to the left of the crankshaft & pully.

Don’t cuss pigeons. This is Mike Noe’s touring car. He recently received ‘Pigeon’s Choice Award’ on a local tour

Ahhhh...a wartime fling. Had a few of those myself. That’s definitely a New and Improved Ford touring. The trees appear consistent with Ft. Benning - home of the Airborne. However they were larger when I went through back in ‘72.

Guess what Dan ?... Steve Johnson hasn’t returned phone calls in years. I’ve had Round felloes reproduced there and he was top quality. I have a pickup bed of powder coated steel felloes needing spokes. We need a wheelwright in the South.

Oh heck uncle Stan !! I just returned from the local Toyota house and bought me a $1800 Prius head ! Was going to ask- on this Forum- who makes adapter plates for Model T...

Pardon my ignorance Allan (people have to do that all the time) but why the need of a second U Joint ? I’ve placed the attached U Joint square end in a vise and supported the shaft and tube then used whatever wrench

george from up over

You really don’t Jim ? And I showed you pictures of Pierce Brosnan in my centerdoor while you were here. There was over a dozen T s in the made for HBO series called ‘The Son’ filmed a few years ago

...and on some ‘team traxks’after wheels and tires were mounted; I’m told some dealership boys installed the brass hubcaps with a heavy rubber mallet.

Nope, that’s not what you need. It’s for a T. I have a TT Rear Spring clamp. It’ll cost less than the mailing. Email me: gwhouse731(at)gmail.com

And I got my boy Cullen a job there about 2 weeks ago. He loves learning from Ross.

What Kevin said ....

In actuality there’s 2 styles of this bracket in the last 2 years of T production. The rarest only fits the 4 door and chassis. The other style fits all the other body styles of 26-27. Just a tidbit I’ve learned from this Forum

That looks like a ‘26-‘27 steering column bracket in really bad shape. It fastens to the left frame rail with 3 bolts and the brass bushing slips over the bottom end of the steering column also encompassing the spark and gas rods.

What’s an anime ?

What a fun mental picture; nay, mental video you’ve given us this morning ! Many thanks Dallas !

Yeah, Brett.... there’s my friend Paul Mikeska in Denver. If he doesn’t have one, he’ll know of one you might borrow. You can search his contact info on this Forum or just start a thread titled ‘Hey Paul Mikeska !!’

Beautiful anatomically correct touring. Only things I can add are super picky: the 4 manifold clamps on the ‘24 engine are the heavier ‘26-‘27 and installed upside down. And someone smarter than me on this Forum said Model T s never had brass top prop nuts. Also, the front top prop nut left side is ...

True .... but many a split rim has been ruined by using this tool incorrectly. Must turn it 180 * to expand rim under the tire. You in Golden CO ?

Allan; I think Stan Howe is making 2 floats for me out of that same material for two U & J carbies I sent him. Contact him. Hes very helpful albeit long winded

Install the Volvo OD. Then if you think you still have a Model T, you’ll only be fooling yourself. Go with KC Warford...

Yes...Joe and Tony nailed it. In my point of view; driving a Model T on a bucolic country road is sheer joy. The faster you drive, the shorter time span of “sheer joy”.

By golly you’re right Allan ! Once I expanded the picture I saw they were the later heavier clamps. You’re right, all he needs are the 4 correct studs....

They call me ‘Style over Function’ around these parts.....but I feel your perfectly functional 4 manifold clamps are the early style. The New and Improved clamps are heavier duty and would install ‘flipped over’ from your style. Engine looks 600% better than my ‘27. Welcome !!!

Yeah... I had one of those ‘23-‘25 rear touring seat + 2 back doors for years. Tried, I thought very aggressively to sell it for $150. Two years at Chickasha and MTFCA Classifieds. Incorporating it into a cutoff would require a wood kit and a lot of work. I just figured everybody was content with th...

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In the-posting title and in his lead sentence he identified Vaporizer as the type he is needing info on

Looks like a fun assembly project David. Thanks for sharing your good fortune. The only comments of substance I can provide: make sure you get a statement of differential installation. If none; open it up and follow instructions in the MTFCA front and rear end pamphlet. And, the Muncie tranny is a g...

Wayne, have you ever hooked up with the Cen Tex Tin Lizzie’s in Austin ? Probly Randy Brown of that club ever reads the Forum. He’s reached out to you before.

Howdy Joe,
There’s no problem using an NH carb on a Fordson. I have one on my ‘19 ladder side 6 spoke rear wheel too. Don’t use the water bath air cleaner either. Just don’t plow in a dust storm.

Ya’ll I cheated 😞....I tried following the up and down movement of the raw gas as it turned into an air/fuel mixture and found that sheet metal ‘coil’ was toast so I turned to the old standby NH carb. Makes starting and running much simpler....Question: How do I keep the 2 bolts fastening the bottom...

Whatever you do; don’t try to use a polishing wheel on them. And don’t ask me how I know that 😞 it’ll turn you expensive glass channel into a pretzel. What I did do on my ‘14 windshield glass channel - that’s supposed to be shiny brass - is I spent hours hand cleaning with steel wool then a polishin...

I have four early ‘50s Non Skid 30 X 3s on my ‘11 Hupp. I’m in for a new set of Bockley’s...

Oh, ... OK.. then it’ll be a “speedster”. Then the front spring won’t matter. Use that one

Hey doc; do you know ‘26-‘27 Ford front springs are different from previous front springs ? The arch is lower. Yes, Allan is right. The spring in your picture has been assembled from multi years and assembled not in order (longer spring leafs above shorter leafs). For instance, if you install a ‘24 ...

Yes: I install a pad on all my belly pans. I found an old truck dually thick rubber rear rock shield alongside the road while I was looking for a T oil filler cap. I’ve been cutting a 4” diameter piece out for years for a pad. Then I use a bottle jack on the oil drain plug (15/16”) to lift the engin...

Howell’s Sheet Metal has been legendary for that exact level of customer service every since David sold the business. I can’t believe they even answered the phone on 2/3 rds of your calls.

Me too ! I received my ‘23 T touring in ‘65 when I was 15. Sold it in 2015 after 50 years and a 1976 drive up and down Pikes Peak at a VMCCA Glidden

...And Brent is my coil man too. I ditto all the good recommendations above

Yes. I knew that Mark. My question concerned the bolts through the crankcase that Dan precisely answered.

That’s perfect Dan ..Thanks !!

The other day I was disassembling a 11 7 19 Model T motor when I recognized the block/crankcase bolts were cotter pinned but the trans cover/crankcase bolts/nuts were fastened with lock washers. This made sense I thought because the engineers determined the hogsheads had to be removed on occasion to...

The biggest puzzler I’ve ever recognized to Henry Ford’s way of thinking is his introduction of 3 speed sliding gear transmissions in 1917 with his Fordson tractors and continuing throughout Model T 2 speed planetary transmission production in his cars.

Good idea Terry.... I hope that’s the plastic float material that Stan will be using on my two
U& Js..

Thanks Dan. Good consideration. I’m going to try Scott’s method on my repop carb but, in the meantime, I went out to the barn and picked out several original NH floats and put them all to the test. Picked a winner, installed it, turned on the gas and didn’t leak - car running or not. Went for a driv...

You only lost a fan blade - on the pavement ? If so, consider yourself lucky. I lost a fan blade on my ‘14 and it stuck into the bottom of the top tank of a 1 week old Brass Works brass radiator. So I got to fix both radiator and fan. Expect 100 + year old spinning fan blades to develop age cracks. ...

Rocky Mountain. Period correct. ...I only have Henry’s brakes on all my T s so I’ve been enjoying driving them like Model T s for 53 years.

Great idea Scott ! In my initial post I said “Next I placed the float in a cup of water and it sunk” (over time). I’ll go on the hunt now for RMA flux and eutectic solder. Thanks !

Thanks John but I’d just be replacing a 10 year old never used new Lang’s float with another one. Suppose I could call and ask for a float test before sending but, in the tradition of restoring, was just wondering if there was a lightweight ‘brush on’ or ‘spray on’ product someone has used successfu...

The other day I replaced the carburetor on a T with a rebuilt carb done by a dear deceased friend about 10 years ago. But gasoline wouldn’t stop pouring out of the inboard hole next to the choke shaft hole. I tapped and tapped hoping for just a stuck needle in the seat - to no avail. So I drained th...

Agree with Allan. The ‘Ford O’ (lamp on the right 1st and 2nd picture) was non electric commercial and fit on a somewhat rare “butcher knife” bracket. The mounting bolt on the lamp side won’t fit any T bracket except the butcher knife bracket. So the little red lens will act as a tail light and the ...

Yes Jim. . I have those “belly pans” on 5 of my T s as a precaution. I also adjust them to take weight off the pan ears that mount on 1/4” rubber above the frame rails. But I have an old 3 dip starter equipped engine with both ears broke off and 2 Ford ?NOS? Replacement ears. I just needed the seque...

I have a real nice April 1918 engine if you want to make the old girl legitimate . you’ll need an Armstrong starter tho”.

Great considerations Allan. I’m wondering about replacing a later pan ‘ear’ in a later model pan. What’s the sequence of events? Remove broken ‘ear’. Rivet new ear on? Then how is braze applied?

How about $15 apiece then ?

. That was RICH Dave. Loved the true comment.

IMHO, the best and easiest to install outside Oiler is the one described and pictured in Dan Trease’s Post. I’ve got ‘em on all my T s and every Model T I’ve previously had. On the last install I cut out about 8” of copper tubing and replaced with clear plastic tubing. Sure enough; that flywheel spl...

Yeah Charley... right or left.... all 3 doors of a touring and passenger door of a roadster... can’t speak on the Canadians.... never seen one

Passenger side and touring rear left side. Sandblasted and primered. I thought they were ‘24/‘25 but the Forum taught me 1 Year only. $40 + cheapest freight or your choice. George.
gwhouse731(at)gmail.com

Extremely well spoken Gary Hammond (tinman). I once bought a chain hoist from that Chinese garage sale called Harbor Freight. Was rated at 2 tons. The first time I used it was to lift a 900 pound Fordson engine + flywheel. It allowed the engine to get about 4’ off the floor then a chain link was str...

... sent email to Dennis...

Not too sure a modern AC auto compressor would drag down our precious 20 HP. We used to have a ‘62 ch&$€y II with dealer add on AC. When you flicked the switch to turn it on while underway, you were thrown forward in the seat. Nowadays, the compressors somehow don’t steal HP from the little KIAs and...

Out of respect to my Model T brothers; this’ll be my only **btt** this item

Many thanks Hap - and you too David. As usual, I learn many tidbits of useful information from your research and diligence at correctitude (new word). So. The rectangular appearing hinge IS a 1 Year part,huh? And I didn’t know ol’ Henry didn’t like to use ‘Model years’ in discussion. I’ve been in th...

Here’s a picture of me in my centerdoor with my Pierce Brosnan mask on. Ten made for TV (AMC) series of ‘The Son’

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