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Jem

A fellow near me with a 09 Stanley told me he had his brass gold-plated so I never needed attention 'It was surprisingly inexpensive!'. But he owned half the county, so his idea of inexpensive may vary from ours.

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That bus is mind-boggling! How does a 20hp drag all that body along, let alone filled with passengers. Imagine if a bunch of kids rushed to grab the back seats - the front wheels would lift off.

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I have just submitted an article for our club magazine on the joy of slow driving. Throughout the T era, 1903 to 1930, the national speed limit in Britain was 20mph.

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Working tractors here have to have a roll cage, most have an air-conditioned cab and are quite fast; seat belts would seem quite sensible. Going back to vintage vehicles, belts won't help in a major accident but they will stop you coming out of the seat under heavy braking or a swerve. I know a coup...

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I remember discussion of the driver's door and whether the license plate was Canadian. Following the Shorpy link doesn't show me any info on place or date.

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I confess. I don't use them in my T, but my V8 & my VW camper.

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I use a small orbital sander to vibrate the stem.

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If you follow all the suggestions above and it's still stiff, consider this. I had 2 engines partially seize after 2000 odd miles. The cause was wrist pins seizing in alloy pistons. I had to pull the pistons and hone the wrist pin holes. I also drilled oil holes. If you pull the head you should be a...

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I stand corrected. I just saw a foot throttle and 2 pedals going down to the left, missed the reverse.

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Good film that. History takes a beating all right, the pedals the driver slams in his emergency stop don't belong to a T.

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I think there is more than 1 1915 used on Ragtime. Half the film was shot on a big backlot set in Shepperton Studios just outside London, England, so I think we had a duplicate car in the UK. First film I ever worked on, it was b####dy freezing on that lot, we all wore 3 layers under our costumes. M...

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I've told Ian there is an article to be written here. He has photos pre- and during-restoration. The car was previously owned for a long time by one of our club members Rodger Florio who sadly died just before the restoration was completed, so never saw it. I don't know if we have any history prior ...

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Teddies on lockdown! Left the Model T ticking over outside the garage and a Teddy decided to go for a ride. His feet couldn't reach the pedals so didn't get too far. Only a broken lamp and ,luckily, no stuffing was spilt.

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The chauffeur IS Ian, the owner & restorer, not a model hired to add period effect

. And I am sure he'll be pleased with the positive comments.

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My near neighbour Ian Braban has spent about a decade restoring this Manchester T Landaulette to a standard that would be the envy of a Rolls Royce shop. Check out the photos on Flickr
https://www.flickr.com/photos/oldefule/ ... 850294526/

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We have to remember these early bodies were craftsman made so there may be no single standard, it would have varied depending on which man was doing the job and what hardware was available. Like linestriping which varies from car to car. Re my axle, that needs cooperation with a machine shop, not po...

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Shoul have said never rewooded! Spell check!

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August 09 Beaudette alloy body, believed never responded or retrimmed.

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Mike Bender recommends you work on the trans with it bolted to the engine on an engine stand. Makes it easier to check for runout with a dial gauge etc. He makes the good point that the factory had separate shops for engine and trans assembly, we restorers are only doing one at a time. Instead of he...

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Our fuel in the UK is E5 but we are moving to E10. I am told there will be superunleaded 97 octane available, but I don't know if that will be ethanol free. I've had no problems with any of my cars or tractor on E5.

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This is British. There were T and TT versions, possibly supplied by one of the bread or flour companies - Hovis? Lots of bakers had them, I don't know of a survivor, the construction probably didn't lend itself to long term use and what could you use a second hand loaf for once the baker finished wi...

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Looking at some lights on a Frenchman's stall at Beaulieu Autojumble some years ago, I asked why the LH of each pair had a white window with blue or green chevrons(like the Citroen badge). The French have, or had, 'priority to the right' - the fellow coming out of the road on your right will shoot o...

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I’ve been around since 2004. I miss the old forum and many of the old members who are either no longer with us, or choose not to post anymore, or very seldom, like me. I was searching the old forum and I was amazed at how much more interesting and active the old forum was. There were many, many mor...

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I second that. My wife made a rare recce into my shop yesterday and said - this place is a mess, why don't you tidy up?

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Well I see some useful parts. Model A radiator, 2 seater body tub, fenders, running boards - might be an open valve motor with 5 ball carb hiding under the hood

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That is a lovely piece. Wish I was near enough to borrow it

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I still have one of those wrenches which I made myself as an apprentice piece. The car could be one of many British cars with that suspension layout.

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English plate. I have some photos somewhere of an English trade school with girls fixing Ts - Great War?

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Digging up an old topic here, is this the Model J #2 that Carl Pate refers to in his Encyclopedia?

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I keep getting this style of listing turning up on my searches https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/184155782868?ul_noapp=true Click on sellers other items and he has over 2000 on offer. Click on the photos and 2nd photo tells you not to bid but email him. Every item I've seen in this style has a different gm...

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Read the description and it's not quite the unmolested find the headline suggests, it had a chequered career in the 20s & 30s, maybe it didn't run when parked:-)
And the engine no is 33,000 or so different from the data plate. The vendor seems to think it came from the factory like that.

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Seems I'm only a puppy in this company, model year 1948. But I have the triple bypass, 7 stents & a pacemaker. And a Ferguson tractor.

Happy Birthday, Stan.

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I lurk here everyday, Bud, but don't often have anything intelligent to say.

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Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and everything you wish for yourself in 2020, from the muddy swamp of Lincolnshire. We're hoping for a Dry January - not an absence of alcohol, an absence of rain.

Merry Christmas!

Jem

The famous quote is 'Some people know the price of everything but the value of nothing'

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Quite a few British cars in the 30s had freewheels, the idea being you could save fuel. BUT, you had a lever to disengage it when you needed engine braking. This T accessory on its nice tin is a lovely display item but I wouldn't want it in my car.

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Talking to Neil Tuckett, he tells me that a nice car he brought from California some years ago has been nicely restored (but in yellow with tan leather!) and is alive and well in Surrey, England, serial no 33xx. Also the car I mentioned which Bonhams sold was a pre-1000 serial #, (738?) although not...

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On the second chara, I don't think that's a frame extension you can see, it's the wooden bearers for the body, I think it's a standard TT.

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There are 17 people in that first charabanc, at a conservative estimate that is 1 ton, without the heavy bodywork. Poor little Ford.

On the bus in the museum, I wonder what axle they've put under it and how the brakes are rigged.

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Here's the block IMG_20191021_135149378.jpg DSC02011.JPG I have too many projects lined up, the no-rivet rear end is about halfway down that list..... Kim probably has a better handle than I on survivors. I've seen the Don Hess' #2 up in Scotland, and there's a water-pump car (# in the 1600s I belie...

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Tony, some image programs will read PDF and let you output as JPG. Or you could go analog, print it and then scan it back in! Here's the sheets for my car #9267. It's a poor copy sent to me in 1994 by Mark Herdman, I wonder if a better print could be made now. My car has an aftermarket top, so I thi...

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I'm with Jeff on this. Belts are going to help with heavy braking, swerves or minor fender-benders. In a major accident nothing is going to help you much in an antique car, especially a lightweight T, but I think I would rather be restrained from being thrown through the windshield. One suggestion t...

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There was a pioneering early lady motorist in the 1900s who used her makeup mirror to check for cars behind. Can't remember her name right now, but she usually gets the credit for the rear view mirror. She also carried a pistol for protection, so maybe she also invented the drive-by shooting

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Good point Art. I made sure that the pin felt free once clamped up in case the clamp caused distortion.

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Yes, I posted about this not long ago. 2 engines, piston pins seized after a couple of thousand miles, even though they seemed loose on assembly. Seems the old test of letting the rod drop when holding piston horizontal does not work. Honed them out, we'll see how the next few thousand miles go.

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Another comparison, here's the radiator that goes with #9267.

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For comparison, here's engine #9267, assembled Aug 16th 09. (There are some non-factory marks toward the rear - it was metal-stitched after joining the 2-piece crank club).

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He does say the rear is late 09 or 10, to be fair. I agree the motor has been faked from a later block (the number block is awful) and we don't see the hogshead to check the 2 lever setup. It's a right bitza and needs a lot of work to make halfway respectable.

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I bought a car off Dave several years ago. Making contact was difficult, when we did finally talk, he explained he'd been running his log-splitter almost non-stop and couldn't hear the phone

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Typo. The town near Neil Tuckett is Winslow, not Wilmslow.

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Oh, I forgot to mention you can see a Hucks Starter at Duxford and also at the Shuttleworth Collection https://www.shuttleworth.org/

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Visiting London is not 'doing' England, anymore than me visiting New York would be 'doing' the US. For car action you need to get out of London - the city is so tangled with Low Emission Zones and Congestion Charges that I don't know anyone who drives an old car in London. If you decide to pick up a...

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I have had problems on 2 engines with piston pins seizing in alloy pistons after a couple of thousand miles. That causes the piston to cock over and clatter against the bore. Pull #3 and check the piston pin. I also have a noisy cam gear on 1 engine, even though it's new. It has 7thou backlash, the ...

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I think that's a hoot! Stuffing all those bits in through the side door. Need to watch the whole video now, looks very good

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This is something I was considering. I have LED headlamp bulbs in my 35 V8 and 76 VW Camper, I may experiment with them in a gas headlamp.

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Ford put a built-in governor in all their sidevalve engines in the design of the inlet & exhaust. If you have a stock engine it will run out of breath before it can hurt itself, unless you let it get out of control down a hill, as has already been said.

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Had the triple bypass, had the fast irregular heartbeat after...it does settle down and go away. My doc said, get yourself a glass of wine and sit under a shady tree and reelaaaax. BTW that was 25yrs ago and I'm still here. Still taking the glass of wine under a shady tree - purely a preventative me...

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No mention of serial no, and I think that is a Dutch registration. They claim the lights are original, are they sure they aren't repros? Bit of a cynic, me.

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Generator!? I have a perfectly good Armstrong starter, don't need no lektricitie. Bearings are all within tolerance. The clatter is a very light noise, like rattling a stone in a tin-can. I can replicate it quite well by grasping the front pulley and waggling it, so I'm sure it's the gear. I don't t...

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Just been reading that site - I feel a collection fever coming on!

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The patent no is the same and I found a site which says Ernest Lake was associated with Harvey Frost

http://www.classic-british-car-jacks.uk ... _Jacks.htm

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I'll check that as I have it all apart.

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Once upon a time, every British breakdown lorry had a Harvey Frost crane on the back - HF did lifting gear. I bought this HF Ford Jack at Beaulieu (our answer to Hershey) in September 1994. Thereby hangs a tale:- I was just out of hospital after bypass surgery, forbidden to drive or lift anything, b...

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I have had this annoying loud clatter on a light throttle - open or close the throttle and it shuts up. The large cam gear is a new aluminium item. Checking backlash, I can get a .007" feeler between the teeth. Is this my noise? Would a nylon gear quieten things down? Does anyone sell an oversize ge...

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You didn't mention the French - check out Ford-t.fr and their excellent annual Concentration event in June.

And there's Alt Ford Freunde on Germany.

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I had .0025 pistons in my 09 when purchased 40yrs ago. When I joined the 2 piece crank club, one got smashed but I still have the other 3. Only trouble is I am in the UK, so the postage cost may be excessive.

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I didn't touch anything, it just exploded!

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Dallas, you faked that bottle! I recognise it, it's a Jaguar part.

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But you'd know it was there, giving you a warm glow

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Mine are like Rich has, but my car left the factory without a top, the top is an aftermarket item ( supplied by the selling dealer I assume).

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I had a problem with piston wrist pins binding when hot. Thought I had fixed it, but went out to fuel up and found it stiff to crank at the service station. Once I was home I waved the IR thermometer at it and found area around #4 cylinder was around 500F. There's also a magneto problem so it's goin...

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When a newbie 40yrs ago I forced my roller brgs in and split the hubs, which I didn't notice until I tried to fit new hubcaps. You find split hubcaps at swap meets which I suspect have been forced onto split hubs. Some years ago I read the suggestion that you grind the outside of the race until is a...

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17017 is the part # for Wrench (spark plug and cylinder head nut). My English book only shows B prefix for 4cyl, 40 prefix for V8 85 & 52 prefix for V8 60. I think lots of the tools were revised to 01A (not 81A) circa 1940 because I find lots of those. Anyway they're V8.

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Just zoomed in on the photo. One seems to have a part no prefix 40-, that is a 1934 Model 40 part. The other looks to be prefix 81A, which is 1938 passenger car. Tomorrow I can check my parts books.

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Misread the topic. Thought it said: Wenches. Disappointed.

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They come in different sizes, the bigger the jet, the more gas flow. If only one works for you, maybe the other three are too big. If you have access to an acetylene welding cylinder you can use that to test how much flow they need - you only need to crack the regulator open slightly.

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Can't wait to see the videos of you opening it up on those empty Nebraska roads.

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The London-Brighton Veteran car run got re- routed down Reigate Hill (approx 18percent grade) in 2017 resulting in 4 car crash & 1 driver fatality, after his brakes failed.

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I had vibration which turned out to be loose rivets holding the brake drum to its shaft. That led to the whole trans shifting about because the tail shaft is bolted to the drum. Sorry to say, it sounds like you need to get it out and on an engine stand. I would look at Mike Bender's YouTube videos t...

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To get the engine put of my 09 you have to remove the firewall & windshield and have the option of leaving the pan in situ. We don't see the car that engine came from.

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I asked a similar question about pacemakers (being fitted with one on 22nd) and got 2 useful links, one a FAQ from a manufacturer. You may be able to Google for a FAQ on your device. https://www.modeltfordclubofamerica.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3310&p=25451#p25451 Good luck with your recovery, ...

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We've had this come up before and someone researched the author - seems he's known to be a grade A no-nothing. Ignore it.

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Thanks, gents, those 2 links covered everything

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I'm pretty sure this has been discussed before. My cardiologist says I need a pacemaker. I've read warnings about the EMF from electric welders affecting pacemakers (do I have to sell my TIG?) but does a T magneto generate a strong enough field to affect one?

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The resin process sucks it into all the pores of the metal by putting the item in a vacuum tank, and as my head is the 09 original I am unlikely to find a replacement, so I should do whatever I can to preserve it. I'll talk to the company and report back.

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Has anyone tried resin impregnation? It's primarily used to fill porosity in castings, it won't fill cracks, but I believe it inhibits corrosion so could reduce chance of further deterioration. I'm thinking of it for my low head which has rust flakes floating around despite using inhibitor anti free...

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The 09 column is very short, I often drive with a cushion behind me. I have seen photos where the wheel was reversed and the levers bent up

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Art asked for more photos of my 09, here's a link to a 2018 post
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/82 ... 1532436906

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Got it out the shed and dusted off the cobwebs

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Caught me! It's a while since I saw that shaft so I forgot it was the day previous. As for doing an article, that would have to wait for all the other stuff on the to-do list, and it certainly isn't going to happen soon with summer coming at us. Winter is for writing tasks.

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Yes Hap, it is the front of the seat frame as you describe. You might like to know the engine assembly date is also 8 17 09 , stamped on the transmission shaft.

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Yes it's an aluminium Beaudette touring body, shipping invoice date 8/17/09

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By dint of gentle scraping at the paint, I have exposed a number on the seat of my 09. It appears to be 657X with possibly a ghostly B off to the left.

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The best gamekeeper is an ex-poacher.

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Stan Howe has just rebuilt my 5 ball but it was a RHD unit, and I have a LHD car. Stan doesn't have a spare throttle lever, does anyone have one? I would swap my RHD version if that helps. Jem Bowkett, Spalding UK

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I don't drive the T fast enough to bother, but I have them in the flathead coupe and VW camper and have no balance problems at highway speeds. But getting them into tubed tyres is a fiddle.

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Further thought. If it's a bare chassis he wants to see Neil is the obvious man, or Rich Skinner (trades as Tudor Wheels) but neither is exactly South East.

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Yes. South East England is a bit vague, cos there's probably one near his town. He needs to make contact with the Model T Ford Register of GB. Dave who runs the club Facebook page is South of London and very helpful. Neil Tuckett (Google Tuckett Brothers) would also help.

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The nose of the torque tube is free to move around in the ball cap to accommodate suspension movement. If that cap is dry or seized for some other reason, something has got to give.

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Here in the UK I have a right handed E&J with the blue and white lenses reversed. But I don't have a RH bracket for it. I have a photo somewhere if you want to see it

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