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Allan

Pat's point about the shell adding load to the neck may be valid. I had to shift the neck over 1/8" on my new Brassworks radiator to be able to fit the shell. Perhaps the shell should be fitted and the neck position scribed on the radiator top to set the neck in the optimum position. The radiator on...

Allan

Dan, you are suppose to toss the crow and drink the waster it was cooked in. That's how we eat Galahs here.

Allan from down under.

Allan

Yours is not an original Ford radiator, on which the neck was first crimped to the top panel, and then soldered. The repop radiators rely solely on the solder joint. It is not a difficult repair to do at home if you have anyone who has done some soldering. The two mating surfaces need to be cleaned ...

Allan

Aren't they the same as any front perch with holes for oilers? That would widen your marketplace.

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Allan

I learned a new word today. I have never heard the word refractory, let alone how it can be used. Had I been reporting this problem I would have used recalcitrant. Refractory is better for inanimate objects.

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Allan

The same applies with beaded edge 23" rims. Chev rims are about 1/4" wider than T rims. The rims fit the wheels well enough though, once the valve stem hole is shifted.

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Allan

Ford lists the needed one as right hood shelf.
The other side one is the left side.

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Allan

If the gasket has blown between cylinders 2 a nd three and your head is Reader head you are not an orphan. There is a huge hole between the cylinders, which matches holes in the gasket. The trouble is there is no corresponding hole in the block. I know of two such heads that let go there. The proble...

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Vern, it is better if the foot piece is still fitted. That would show the back edge narrower than the wider front rolled edge, clearly illustrating the flare.

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Allan

It would be interesting to see if anyone can turn up a coilbox with front mounted switch and the slot for the division rod. Deleting the switch, and the resultant greater flexing of the front panel may be what led to the introduction of the centre division piece.

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Allan

The axle nut hole is a poor afterthought. Many such wrenches show this to be butchered. There is no way it is actually fit for stated purpose, given the load expected to be applied to the axle nut. It does make a good tool for removing the hex drain plug on the pan though.

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Allan

Vern, your phpto has the top corners cropped, so we can't see the flare. If the feet at the bottom are shown, they will be angled to show the flare. Those feet are narrower at the back than the front.

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Allan

Thanks Thomas for clearing this up. I did not think it was a windmill because the fan was seen from the side and the tail was in the "parked" position. Our mills worked the same way. The tail is used to keep the fan square to the wind when the mill is operating. It is drawn to the side to effectivel...

Allan

The later clevises are rolled steel, with a seam along them. Attention with a hammer around the outside of the clevis, as well as heat, should free them up. Failing that a sharp chisel can be used on the seam to open up the clevis a tad. I agree, get your terminology up to speed will get you more ac...

Allan

Thank you John. I have always believed the same to be true. The corollary of this is that any radiator shell with sides square to the front is a low shell. A high shell can be cut down to fit a low radiator, but the flared sides will still be wider at the top, affecting the hood fit. Bending the hoo...

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That would alter the levels on the dipstick a bit John, but nothing that could not be taken into account. Duncan and Fraser offered the Acuret dipstick in their suit of accessory options. My roadster was fitted with one, so I had no compunctions about re-fitting it. I solved the compromised angle at...

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Robert, I see a couple of rims with a slotted lug near the valve stem. This is usually a reliable indicator that the rim at least is not a Ford rim. Chevs had that slotted lug to enable the rim to be mounted because the valve stem hole was close to the adjacent spoke, and the rim had to be dropped d...

Allan

I have noticed the Ford scrip on many US headlamp rims. It is nowhere near as prevalent on our Canadian sourced cars. Who knows why?

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Allan

Our departed white metal guru used to stipulate a certain measurement for the thickness of the rod caps where the bolts go through. This weeded out those caps which had been filed down too much, thus making the bearing material a little thin once bored to size. I tossed a lot of caps that didn't mea...

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That communications tower looks much like the microwave towers used to boost telecommunications in country areas. I can remember such being erected in the 1960s along our interstate highways. They are still extant in some areas but are fitted out to serve more as mobile/cell phone towers these days....

Allan

Excellent summation Pat. You have rounded out the discussion comprehensively. About the only thing you missed is a cross threaded hubcap!

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Allan

All things being equal, all BE tyres originating in Viet Nam, all new stocks should rise in price at the same rate when the new tariff sets in.

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Allan

Scott, the rim is that to which the tyre is fitted. A felloe is the steel piece to which the rim an tyre is mounted. Unless the felloe has been severely bent, a small amount of out-of-round will be corrected when the new spokes are pressed into place.
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Allan

If someone has a pair of dividers, the set distance between the spring perches and the distance from the perch to the axle yoke could be compared. Te ratio between the two should reveal if the axle is wider outside of the spring perch. Distortion due to the angle of the shot should not alter that ra...

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Made in Viet Nam, to Blockley's own specifications. They have been supplying a large range of bias ply and vintage racing tyres for many years. They recognised there was a real quality problem with the quality of the tyres produced for our Ts, and set about rectifying this. What it needed was direct...

Allan

Tyres with tubes are a thing of the past. Without a mass market for any product, manufacture of stuff will decline, to a point where it is not viable to service that market. US, and Australian manufacturers for that matter, are capable of manufacturing tubes, even ones which hold air, but it is no l...

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John makes a good point. There is a much cheaper bearing of the same dimensions, but it will not take the thrust generated by the gearset. It is that thust load which has to be accommodated by the bearing. This also means that the bearing used needs to be installed the right way round. Allan from do...

Allan

2 hole drums? The 2 is nowhere near the 6 key! Can't blame that on fat fingers. Then there are specials like Andre's, with a combination of 5 and 6 holes.

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Allan

The trick is to adjust the stapler load so it does not drive the staples all the way in. Easy to pull, and easy to tap home if not pulled. Us marine stainless staples when doing tops.

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Allan

Do not confuse rims with felloes. On our Canadian sourced cars, demountable 30" rims were fitted with loose lugs until well into 1925 production, when the fixed lug rims used more commonly in the US were introduced. They Canadian wheels were made by Kelsey in Windsor. The internal diameter of the lo...

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There are 2 hole drums for wooden wheels and 5 hole drums for wire wheels. They can be adapted either way, but why bother if you can get the correct ones.
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Reproductions are a very distant second choice in my opinion. If you can find good 26-7 brass originals you are well ahead. Besides, the brass ones are easily dent knocked for polishing/replating.

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Allan

Is the speedster with the Livingstone radiator built on a wide track car running gear?

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Allan

Neither of mine have the lettering on the knob. Both have Akuret cast in the elbow at the pan. Both have round dip rods rather than the flat flexible stuff. The flat dip material would be much easier to make, but if you cant get it.....? There is an alternative. When I refitted the one to my newly r...

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Norm, if it was me you perceive as being critical, I offer an apology. I was expressing the fact that with a 26-7 top there is little room for "adjustment" unlike the earlier cars. All hinge/mounting points in the roadster top are at fixed points. The length of the bows in the sockets is fixed by th...

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The grandfather of a good friend of mine made his own. He used a square quart can as the base. The bottom was cut at an angle so that it rested on the steering column. A wooden base was fitted at that angle and a strap around the column was screwed to the base. It was used to contain al manner of lo...

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I have two original Acuret lipsticks. Both have .160" round rods for the dip stick. The brass knob is pinned to the stick, and the levels are stamped into flats made in the dipstick. They should not be hard to replicate. 20250909_144026.jpg 20250909_143954.jpg 20250909_143910.jpg Allan from down und...

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It will be a minor adjustment, if any, but that may be all that is needed. If you can lay the back bow back a bit, it will take the mounting point for the second bow back too, and that will be impeded by the fixed front bow. All you have to make adjustments, is the flexing within the assemblies, not...

Allan

Dan, there was no need to change the parts list number from 23 to 27 because there was no change. High shells fit high radiators. All have the same flared sides. Only those ill fitting tall radiator reproductions have the square on sides. They will not fit correctly, being narrower at the top where ...

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The bow to the windscreen is fixed, The socket does that, in conjunction with the stand-off brackets that fix it to the windscreen stanchions. The length of the rear bow is fixed by the socket too, as is the mounting for the front two bows. There really is no room for adjustment. Allan from down und...

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At least your upholstery is not likely to rust now.

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Robert, it would help if you took one rim off the wheel to show us the loose lug, where there might have been another valve stem hole drilled, any holes in which the lug engages on the felloe, and the cross section of the felloe.

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I'll second not brazing/welding. I had to do that on both castings on my 1912 van to fix cracks between the rivet holes. Both pieces needed to be machined true on the thrust faces and the joint between the two housings. To do this I had to make a spiggot to mount them on before fitting the whole to ...

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Once Canadian production started I believe Kelsey wheels were used exclusively. On our model Ts, 30" clincher wheels were all of the loose lug type until nearly at the end of 1925 production. Then we got the fixed lug rims with which US T owners are more familiar. Once the 21" wheels were introduced...

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Occasionally I come across timers with two pull arms, to suit RHD and LHD cars. These are most likely aftermarket items. Fitting an Anderson timer for RHD cars can cause confusion. More than once I have had stories of backfiring and failure to start, because they had installed the wiring according t...

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The first photo shows the correct mounting for a 1927 model T. the threaded hole in the front accepts a bolt which fastens the radiator apron in place.

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Allan

Or, was the wider drum introduced, with its internally mounted drive plate, to get rid of the "two piece" drum surface afforded by the narrow drum and the outer diameter of the drive plate? Finding two components with the same diameter for a rebuild is nigh on impossible. The wide drum fixed that, a...

Allan

I might have to change my belief! My barn find 1925 backboard has a 4 dip pan and the relief for the wide brake band on the transmission, while having a narrow brake band and evenly spaced pedals. Maybe the two pan modifications were done at the same time. I doubt this car has ever had anything chan...

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I believe the four dip inspection plate was introduced before the wide brake drum was developed . Consequently there are pans with the four dip plate and the modified radius rod ball mount. These do not have the relief for the wide brake band. That came later.
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As stated, there is no nut on the fan shaft. The split pin is there just to stop it backing off it gets loose, rather than locking it. It makes it easier to adjust the belt tension. Just back the bolt off a bit, and adjust the tensioning bolt. There is no need to do anything with the split pin to do...

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if you change tubes, be a ware that the rivet holes in one pumpkin do not necessarily line up with those in another. It is best that you weld up and dress the holes in the donor tube. Then you can drill new holes using your centre casting as a template. Of coulse, you need to make sure you have the ...

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I believe a Canadian serial number does not necessarily agree with the engine number. However, the C prefix in front of the engine number began in 1913, even on blocks from which the Made in USA has been deleted. A Canadian car will be built with multiple Robinson screws with their readily apparent ...

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Maybe the illustration is correct then. Cars, other than Ts may have used straight sided tyres with split rims made bu Kelsey. We live and learn.

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Dan, i think the style in the booklet illustration is an artists rendition. I believe the drawing is in error. Such a rim was ever used on a T, It shows a lug which straddles a rim bolt. It is there to stop the rim rotating on the wheel if the mounting bolts were to come loose. This is typical of 30...

Allan

Re the radiator to firewall stay, it should be locked at the casting on the radiator. This stops the rod '"working" under vibration while the car is in operation.Otherwise, the thread can be seriously compromised.

Hope this helps, everyone.
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Allan

If a wide band came out, I can't see why a new lining would not go back in. Does you pan have a depression in it to accommodate the wider band?

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Allan

Ben, with solid glands cut from tubing, your new manifold will not warp. The glands prevent it from moving at the ports. The set of six individual,heavy copper gaskets do the same. They hold the manifold in place in the same way, at the same time affording the seal that the little copper rings do wi...

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Bearing shops here carry bronze bushes to suit. i can buy one with greater wall thickness, so it can be turned down for a custom fit as John suggests. Do you intend to re-fit worn shackles? New replacements may need reaming the bushes to fit.

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Allan

That's the one Keith. I have only ever had one of those tools. I sent it to a good friend in Western Australia to go in the toolkit for his 26 roadster pickup.

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I cannot view your photos, but if you are talking about a pair of %/16"approx holes either side of the split, it is likely a Canadian rim. There was also a special tool fashioned in spring steel wire which was used to collapse the rim. It engaged in those holes. The joining clamp was much like a T d...

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There are multiple LED bulbs available. Only the pre-focused ones with their built in lens, projector globes, are able to be set and aimed correctly. Steer clear of those with multiple LEDS which just throw out a lot of ill directed light. I would also suggest a couple of detatchable LED flashing bi...

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Two things. Scratch the three freeze plugs to see if they are brass. If not, now is the time to replace them. Second, when the two 3 In 1 gaskets are re-used, the separate rolled steel gland rings are not used. There is already a flimsy gland as part of the gasket. Search the forum for warped manifo...

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Phil, yours is repairable if you want to go down that track. The worn section can be built up with weld, then ground/filed back into round. The good thread on the end gives you a lead-in to then use a die to make a new thread. I have found 2 or 3 variations in the length of the round section of thos...

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Good stuff Scott.
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Correction! That is the hub that is wrongly aligned. My mistake.

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Your photo shows the outer plate positioned with the bolt hols being drilled through the spokes rather than between them. The hub should be set that way and the plate follows suit. Or was the photo just staged for our viewing? Nice work with the rebuild.

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Coker is Coker by name only now. It was bought out a few years ago. You can expect changes from new owners. What I don't expect from any of these takeovers is better products, better service and better prices.

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Allan

Many tool manufacturers made Ford specific tools as part of their general offering of mechanics' wrenches, sockets etc. Waldren Worcester, Mossberg, Blackhawk and others were al active in the market.

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Jerry made a point I was about to make. If the adjustable pinion bearing collar comes loose the driveshaft, and consequently the pinion gear mesh can be affected. This is not the case if time is taken to face the drive shaft bush and also fit the rivet/pin when installing the U joint. This is good i...

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The long grain in the material of the "original " windbreaker you show is not original as used by Ford, so having it fitted is a later error. The front corners are a little more difficult to make tidy. More than once I have seen the material drawn down firmly and tacked to the bow, which makes the b...

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The Rootlieb hoods are excellent. You spend a lot of time looking along the line of the hood when driving, so having anything else looking as good as a new one takes a deal of skill in panel work.

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Stevens also made a dud or two. Their early cast iron driveshaft sleeve puller was one. A really stubborn sleeve could see the puller breaking before it would budge. I was given one such broken tool. They made a revised version which was much better.

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John, our ATMS only dispense money, no T parts!

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Peter's suggestions work well. I have had some things posted to a forum poster for consolidation into one parcel to post to Australia. Thank you George. I have had another forum member bring some bibs for me when he came to Australia for a T rally. Thank you Keith. My podiatrist didn't tell me she w...

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Removing something from the inner end of the sleeve is standard practise when fitting those inner seals. You need to take off the same amount as the thickness of the oil seal backing.

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That's right Frank, and Australia is a 10% target. My parcel will originate from Australia, carrying US and Canadian second hand goods. A tariff of 10% on a parcel of $800 value will incur a payment of $80. My parcel of $125 worth will carry a minimum payment, also of $80. Go figure. The problem is ...

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Hooray! Now all those America brands like Dickies, Liberty, etc, etc will be making their bib overalls in new factories in USA.
Fortunately, I have some already set aside, so I can wait.

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Dan, you are correct. When you add a tariff of 10% to $125 it comes to !37.50. But as it stands, there is a proposed flat fee of $80 for any parcel under $800. And nobody knows if it is to be collected by Auspost at point of postage, or by US Customs when it gets to the USA. Either way, when it is s...

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To the top just once more, but price is subject to alteration depending on the beautiful tarrif, wherever its payment and is to be made and collected.

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Dan, do you also believe that the de minimus fee will also make the spoken of drug dealers now declare what they are posting, and the $80 minimum fee to be charged will affect their activities. If so, I still have that bridge for sale that I offered previously.

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Ben, do yourself a favour and forget the T 3063 manifold gaskets and the T 3064 split gland rings. The gland rings need to be able to keep the new manifold in place to stop it warping. I have found the rear one to be a real problem, perhaps because it didn't fit in a warped manifold in the first pla...

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Terry, Sharon is on the money. A T with other than a Ford muffler just doesn't sound like a T.

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I put the engine in last. Aligning the U joint square is a piece of cake if one rear wheel is jacked off the ground. My Stevens tool holds the square and it can easily be used to rotate it into alignment when the wheel is jacked.

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In South Australia there is no routine inspection for other than heavy vehicles and busses. The club officers appointed to issue log books can check vehicles but this is mainly for identity purposes and compliance with the age restrictions for eligibility to register historic vehicles, currently at ...

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I have one last set of Schraeder valve stems and dust caps to sell, but Australia post will not accept any parcels from anybody for postage to USA until the beautiful tariff system is ironed out. At present, 10% is to be applied to all shipments of $800 or more. The kicker is there is a flat $80 cha...

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From photos of repro shells posted here at times, they are not made with the correct folded seams. The joint overlaps and is spot welded to hold it together. Some add their own welds along the seam so they don't blow apart. I could send you the two larger ones correctly made with folded delivery sea...

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Interesting gear with no spokes Karl. The block printing is early, as is the four hole mounting drilled into the bosses on the casting. Then it has also been drilled for a second four hole mounting. Using the lower right of these holes, two more have been drilled to make a three hole mounting like t...

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If the shackles have the brass twist type threaded in oilers, might these also be used on the king pins and tie rod ends? If that is the case, the only flip top ones may be in the frame for the handbrake cross shaft. 15-17 is when the changes from brass to flip tops was made, so all sorts of overlap...

Allan

Just leave tightening the rear spring U bolts till last. That way you have some control over how the car sits on the road.

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The closer to standard configuration the more help you can get, without having to work around differences. As stated, the T is 6 volt negative ground. !2 volts will be hard on the starter motor, so stick with 6 volt. 12 volt gizmos are add ons. If they fail you are still able to go down the road. Al...

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Ben, the wiring loom and the terminal block are later additions on a brass car, so you are going along with previous adaptions. The terminal block screws are usually 3/4" long, so they will not pierce the inside of the firewall by the thickness of the back of the terminal block. If you really had to...

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How would you like to drive that "box" these days. It's positively dangerous with that huge blind spot between straight ahead and side on.

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Bill, my son found a website about your trailer type. That wide opening side door was what piqued my interest I am glad they do not make an 8' wide one, or I might lose some sleep wondering. Or countrywide road rules restrict vehicles to a maximum of 8'. After that, you need flashing beacons and big...

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That is correct Alex. I overlooked that peculiarity. There needs to be a loop in the wires to allow the steering wheel to turn to its limits. Strange as it may seem, it works well. Only once in all my years of T driving has a wire broken, at the switch, which was an easy fix by baring a little more ...

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Canada was ahead with the sloping windscreen. They also were ahead with the use of screws in body construction. In other areas they lagged behind US production. Our cars did not get wheel rims with fixed lugs until well into 1925. When they did introduce 21" wheels with split rims, the rims were mad...

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Ford used a single upholstery tack with a larger head than the all the other tacks. It is better to drill the socket, but often you will find the nail on the tack has been driven through the metal socket. Driving a new tack into an existing socket hole may not work well. The hole in the wooden bow i...

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Mine is just like Frank's. Variations in the pipe cap shapes and galvanised coating may mean you have to run a bit off the outside Of the cap, but this just makes the register on the raised collar that much cleaner and better.

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In the meantime, you might fit a second nut on the pedal shaft to act as a locknut. Adjust the bands so the brakes work as they should, and run the second nut up to act as a jam nut. Then you can do the other stuff at your leisure. Do stuff rags around the drop off point so your extra nut does not e...

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As always, different states- different rules. Here in South Australia, once you have your car on historic registration, the process is simple. The registration papers come from the Dept of transport. You can pay that on line or take it to the nearest office whenever it is due. To access the system y...

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interesting Tt in front of Murphy Bros garage. Bought as a chassis and fitted with a cowl and seats off a much earlier car.

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