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I second Dan's comment, Lang's has been at Chickasha as long as I remember. Wish we could make Luray this year. Glad to see Lang's going.

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Stan I agree on the kids with a air compressor. I have bought and sold old cars most of my life. I found out years ago a flat tire would cost you 500 to a 1000 dollars on a sale. A missing hubcap will also cost you 500. If the car is missing a hubcap its better to take the others off and have no hub...

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If I had not known the buyer of the 15 touring, I would have bid on it . I was prepared to go to 8000.00 for the 15 even though I did not need it. (I already have too many) But it went to a good home and it will be sitting with a 1913 . I'm not sure if this is a good reflection of prices. The auctio...

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I did not purchase anything. It took a lot of will power. :) . I sold Ken about 15 of the cars thru the years. 7 of the Ts were mine At one time, and 8 of the 50s 60s cars were also mine at one time. I missed pictures of about 6 or 7 of the Ts before they were loaded up by the new owners. Out of all...

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That is a street rod radiator for T buckets ECT. It will not work for a stock T without modification

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Dan, I was in process of posting the results, so Ill just post them here. The best two cars there were my old 1921 touring and the 1915 touring. My 1921 was a solid driver when I sold it to Ken. It would hand crank on mag with one finger and free started 90% of the time. Other than a repaint and uph...

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Chad, You have been busy. Glad to see you posting again .... Looks good...

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Nice save. I always like the ones that have came back from the dead. Please keep us posted.....

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UPDATE : The catalogs are done, They turned out nice. Now for the bad news. The wife says it is vacation time. So, as soon as I get the trailer loaded up, and the "house sitter" shows up, we are leaving this week and will be "off grid and off line" for about three weeks. I will not have time to proc...

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Glad to hear that the car has some new caretakers. Thru the years, I have seen pictures that you posted of that speedster. I always had a sad feeling when I saw it sitting out in the weather. But now it seems to have a brighter future.

please keep us posted ..

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I was just joking about putting the pistons in from the bottom. I thought it was impossible to put the piston in from the bottom because of the main bearing boss being in the way. ??

Ill just remove the head again since I do not want to remove the hogs head and crankcase again.

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Kerry, I have never heard of a water leak bending a rod, But there are lots of things I have not heard of. I will check it out while it is out. Thanks for the input.

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After removing the other three pistons, I put the head back on yesterday, using the old solid copper gasket. I just cleaned it up good with laquer thinner and recoated it with the last of my copper coat. I installed the fresh milled (sanded) head and torqued to 50lbs. I made up a plate for the water...

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Thanks Henry ... all encouragement is very appreciated ... I have a related but unrelated question about this head. I know a lot of you guys mess with the speed stuff . My question is about the step or ledge where the cylinder counter bore is. Should I take a die grinder and knock the sharp corner o...

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John, The Improved Models 26-27 blocks are notorious for cracks in the top of the oil galley between cylinders #2 and #3. Most are cracked at that point. I have used a die grinder to cut a small groove at the crack and use JB Weld to keep the water from seeping into the oil galley. I took the head t...

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Walter I am not sure what type of machine they used on the first resurface. I do know the head was held flat and a rotating cutter passed over the head. It was an old machine shop with older tools so there could be wear in the machines. I have never had trouble with a head gasket before this head. I...

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Here are a few more pics. They show some of the obvious hard spots. They may not even be a problem. But its all I can really see or find using straight edges. The only thing I can not really test is some pits or old scratches in the cylinder wall. My mag will not reach into the cylinder far enough w...

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Good morning, Thanks for the input. Ill try to post a few more pics this evening. Ill try to make a seal plate with gasket to do a pressure test of the #1 combustion chamber in a few days, as suggested. A bad casting is something I thought about. But dye check and mag test shows no indications at al...

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Steve and Perry, I forgot to mention that all bolt holes were checked and measured during the original build. I also put the head back on the engine this time without the head gasket, just to re-verify the bolts . All the bolts would screw all the way down by hand with no head gasket. I also checked...

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Well I finally got the engine back together and installed after the last head gasket leak and major crankcase gasket failure. I have the oil leak stopped but the head gasket did not seal again. It started leaking immediately after start up. IT is in the same place as last time. It is leaking between...

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Dan, Conway is about the only choice. Its a college town and is on I-40 so there are lots of choices to stay and eat. The auction is just about 15 miles north of Conway. I'm curious how this auction will be. With most all the events being cancelled this year, will there be a big crowd or smaller cro...

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The auction is almost in my back yard. I was going to post about it tomorrow, but Harold and Dan beat me. I met the Auctioneer at the sale site today. We went over all the Ts today and I helped him figure the years and models of the Ts. He said he knew just enough to be dangerous when it comes to Ts...

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I only knew Charlie from going to the Chickasha swap meet. Our spaces were close to his so in the evening after the crowds settled down I would always stop by and visit with him. I have been going to Chickasha for over 25 years and always remember Charlie being there till a couple years ago. He was ...

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The mini-Ts were made by several different manufactures thru the years. I remember during the late 70s early 80s several grocery store chains in Arkansas gave away the little Ts. Kroger, Mad Butcher, Thriftway, and others. Most had either Coke or Dr Pepper logos. So they may have been Coke or Dr Pep...

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We went to Jerome a couple years ago on our yearly "snow bird vacation" It was a very interesting place to spend the day. Lots of neat old equipment like this tractor, to see.

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Mike, I sent you an e-mail

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I am in dire need of a 1909-1919, 3 inch adjustable accessory type crankshaft pulley. It is the type, made of aluminumn with the flanges on the edge. They appear to be on back order with the vendors at this time. I need it as the last part of the speedster project engine rebuild before I can start t...

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Steve S. Yes you are welcome to use any of my tools. Do your own work and clean up when done are the only rules :) :). Sean. I do not have the extender for the TT axles. I have a small foundry, so I hope to get measurements or borrow one for a pattern. Ill cast it in brass or aluminumn. Its not some...

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I received a new tool for the shop a few days ago. It is a tool I purchased before Chickasha that was going to be delivered to the swap meet. Well we know how that turned out. Thanks to three very good Model T folks, the stand has made it from Colorado, to Tulsa, then on to Dardanelle Arkansas and t...

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Dan, Thanks for the input. I am aware of the two center bolts. I have heard that the head can crack because of the "hollow" cavity that those two bolts pass thru. So I am paying close attention to those two bolts. I have also wondered what the affect of the longer bolts has on the torque value of th...

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Steve, Im inclined to agree with you. I have used 55lbs in the past with good results, But I have also occasionally stripped out threads when trying to get to 55lbs. I always have just wrote it off to bad threads, or weak threads when that happened. But I do not remember ever stripping a thread at 5...

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Thanks for the input. Kevin and Harold. The head gasket that blew out was a "sandwich" style gasket. It was copper and some kind of fiber material inside. It was just like the copper gaskets the vendors sell. It had the proper fire rings at the cylinder openings. (The term "blew out" may be misleadi...

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As some may remember, a few months ago I started my new rebuilt speedster project engine. But during that process I developed a very bad oil leak at the passenger side crankcase engine mount area and also blew a head gasket. So after many days of ranting and raving as well as many curse words, I hav...

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Great find Terry. Lots of folks gripe about e-bay. But there are great deals to be found.. That is a rare light. On another note, the Rajo 4 valve head I bought from you is back on the speedster project engine and ready for "round two" of the start up process. I had a major oil leak on the crankcase...

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The link above is the Billy who had made our gas tanks for years. I have known Billy and Ed for what seems like forever. Ed originally built our gas tanks. Billy was his helper from the age of young man in his teens early 20s. When Ed passed away years ago He willed the business to Billy. Some may r...

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Since you have a low radiator, it dictates what you can do without a radiator change. A low steel firewall with a pair of brackets for a steel firewall will make your most solid steering column mounting possible. Low steel firewalls are not real hard to find. I think I still have several in various ...

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The Rajo 4 valve (model A) head did not have any seals. The original valve covers was a one piece unit that did not even have a back to the valve cover. The rear was totally open to clear the original style coil box porcelain wire terminals. There is no drain areas cast into the head so they are jus...

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I'm thinking it is a stamp to mark factory tool room tools.(maybe tool room department #1) ?? I have several common hand tools that are marked wth a small FORD script that appear to be hand stamped.. Things like hammers,pipe wrenches, chiseled, ECT. Factory tool room tools were marked to help preven...

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I'm pretty sure it is a Model A Ford radiator shell emblem

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Received my taillight today. Tim did a great job again ..... a very nice product. Thanks Tim...........

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Don't forget. It took two people to bid it that high...

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Check that the pan gasket surface at the pan ears has not bent downward. I just had to remove my freshly rebuilt engine because I had a major oil leak at the passenger side pan ear. I missed the pan being bent down about an 1/8 inch. My pan was tested on my pan jig, and a flashlight, as well as a fe...

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sparetimefun, They are still for sale. Please send me a e-mail to the address in the last photo. Thanks

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Tim, sent you a e-mail ......

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Allan, You are correct. I never paid close attention to the single eye bolt I have. It is 7/8 thread. I looked in my Stevens catalog and they did sell two sizes. They sold 1/2 inch and 7/8 inch. You sure have a sharp eye. I guess I'm looking for a pair of the or Ill have to re-thread this one to 1/2...

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Sounds like your group is doing everything they can to make it as safe as possible. Wish we could go, but it's just too far away for us. The main thing for all participants to bring with them is "common sense".

Have fun and be safe.

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Hi Don, been awile since I checked in. The car is looking great. You have got a lot done. But I'm going t o call you out on the new horns wire. It looks like modern plastic to me. Come on now, it needs replaced with cloth covered wire. :) :) . We may try and come to the Texas T Party this year. We h...

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The Horsekess Carriage rule should have been pre 17 and included 1916 Model Ts. A 1916 T is a brass car, I do not care what the Horseless Carriage guys or the Model T guys with 1914 and earlier cars say. The poor old 1916 T is an orphan step child because of the Horseless Carriage rule. A real 1916 ...

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Since I was borned and had my raisin in the hills of Arkansaw I resemble the remarks above.

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I would like to buy a single Stevens lift eyebolt/handle. A pair of them is screwed into 2 spark plug holes and used to lift the engine or they can be used as handles to install the head. I have one but would like another to complete the pair. The following pictures show what Im looking for. Please ...

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Danny, Looking real good. I like the color combination on the engine. Silver/aluminum paint with the aluminum accessories looks nice. I may try that combo next time... Keep us posted, we like to see other folks projects .....

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This is a very nice reproduction. I have used mine to save several rare early DB axles. The reamer and tap are available here on the forum. Buy this frame and the reamer and tap and you will probably still have less than the cost of an original with more than likely a set of original worn out tap an...

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Tim, I got mine today. Very nice, Thanks for making these.

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Mark, I do plan on just barely tightening the bolts. Just enough to make sure the gasket is pressed flat. Ultra black is a very tenacious sealer. It is very hard to remove when stuck to a clean surface. I usually have to cut it off with a razor knife. So I hope it will work with my new procedure.

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Allan, I like the fix of adding solder, but I'm hesitant to add any heat that may burn the Glycol paint on the inside of the pan. Trying to "touch up" any "burnt" paint may cause failure of the Glycol. The solder fix may be a good way to address the problem on clean pans in the process of being rest...

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As some of you know I had a major oil leak at the passenger pan arm when I started the speedsters engine. I also had a blown head gasket. I have addressed the blown head gasket problem and moved on to the oil leak. here is a link to the previous discussion as to the head gasket https://www.mtfca.com...

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I forgot about the green. My gap gauge is also green. It is the only green tool I have. But I do remember seeing some model A tools (mostly pullers) that were green. As to the larger "floor model " tools. I have only seen red and battleship grey colors on what appeared to be original paint tools. . ...

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John, I also have a rear axle stand. It is being delivered from Colorado to Arkansas as we type. :) Most KR Wilson big tools or machines I have seen are painted red or grey. Red seems to be Model A or V-8 era tools. Grey (battle ship grey) was used in the T era. Black was used on small tools. Crinkl...

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I found another Stevens tool for the collection. It is a set of "knock off" wheel pullers. It is actually a Stevens/Walden tool, but it is from the time period of the Stevens Walden buyout in 1926, so it is still a T era tool. The real neat thing is the box. I have never seen another steel box with ...

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I just stumbled onto a really neat site that has lots of old vintage catalogs. Im still learning how to use it, but from what I see so far it is free and has a lot of old vintage info. After I learn how to navigate the site, I believe there will be more than I can ever look at. When the page opens, ...

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Tim, I will take the one in the second photo. The one with the box.

If you will not let me have the one with the box, Ill take one with brass brackets. Please send me your pay pal info again. Thanks for making these.)

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Stan, the 2 unwanted posts above should have a picture of a pencil in the upper right corner. Click on the pencil. It will open to a page of the post. You can put the curser at the end of the post and use the backspace key to remove all the text, the title and also the photos. You will need to leave...

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Thanks Steve. My kits are probably 1/2 wooden boxes and the other 1/2 are cardboard boxes.

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Steve, Thanks. I think they will be fairly easy to make. Ill just have to make a jig so all 15 will be alike ...

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Andrew. Yes, I had thought about making a set. Its a long shot, but was hoping to find some.
Humblej, could you measure the overall length of your inserts. I can figure out the rest, but a length would help.
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I just added a Stevens Carbon Keep Out set to my collection, but it is missing all the threaded inserts. If anyone has some I am interested in buying them. I would like to have at least one to put in the box. Im also interested in buying any Stevens tools. even partial tools or sets. Here are some p...

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I was able to add one more Stevens tool to the collection. It is not complete and probably not a real useful tool, but it has the original box. It is missing all 15 of the threaded inserts. If anyone has any of the inserts I would love to get at least one to put in the box. zzzzzz (2).JPG zzzzzz (3)...

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I agree with Dallas. Marvel Mystery Oil is always good for a conversation .... Add a small Marvel Mystery Oil decal to the glass for more fun things to talk about.

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Dan, I ran the engine about 30 to 45 seconds for the first and second startup before I installed the radiator. With the radiator in place I ran it maybe 3 minutes. The water was hot but not very hot. I could still lay my hands on the head. probably too hot to keep my hand there long but would not bu...

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I could not stand it. I had to pull the engine and see what went wrong. So after two days of work the engine is out and on the engine stand. I have not pulled the pan yet. I want to leave it alone till I address the head gasket problem. When I removed the head I did not see anything that looked like...

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I pack everything I send to "withstand a "repeated" 15 foot fall. That is what the post office official guidelines state. I understand that they may have something fall from time to time, But "repeated" is the part I do not understand. I over pack, and I also "encase" my items as John mentioned, and...

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Here is a picture of the area of the leak. It was taken just before I put the felt seal on and set the hogs head in place.

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Dan ,There is no mag ring, but the oil leak is on the side of the hogs head. Its leaking between the hogs head and crankcase directly below the bolt that goes thru the frame, crankcase arm, and wooden block. I think it is the paper gasket and not a cracked hogs head. Everything was cleaned and inspe...

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Instead of starting a new thread about the crankcase and head gasket leaks I just added to this thread..... Well I got the radiator all cleaned out, pressure tested and installed. No leaks so it was time for a longer test run. The engine started easily, settled down to a nice idle, and things were r...

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Most of the details above are correct. Norman is correct about the cowl area at the top front of the doors. BUT. The 26 27 Improved models is probably the most misunderstood of all the Ts. So many people just say "they are all alike" but those same people will get anal about the rivets in their bras...

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I tried using the "size" search feature of the belt manufacturers. All I'm finding in the 27-1/2 inch range is narrow belts. They are only about 3/4 to 15/16 inch wide. Ill contact Russ and see what he can do. I also had our local parts stores look for me. They also only found narrow belts in the le...

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Im installing the radiator on the speedster project. It seems with my fan and other things a 27 inch belt is almost too shrot and a 28 inch fan belt is almost too long. The 27 inch will allow the fan to turn but the blades only clear the lower hose by about 1/8 inch. The 28 inch belt allows plenty o...

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There is a little story to go with the finding of the body at Chickasha. I had collected speedster parts for most of my Model T life.... The only item I really needed to start on the project was an original body. I did not want a repro body. It had to be an original and have patina. That year, about...

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Tim, I will hook the "Craveroiler" upper cylinder lubricator to the manifold and feed Marvel Mystery Oil to the valves thru the intake. Everyone knows Marvel Mystery Oil. should give me at least 20 more horse power, and make the engine last forever.

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Its been a long trip on this one. The main thing is the build kept changing as I went along. One change led to another change. It was always two steps foward and one step back. Adding the Rajo 4 valve was an ordeal. The install of the 4 valve was fairly simple. But someone before me had changed the ...

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Thanks guys, When I started this project, I figured it would take 3 maybe 4 years to do. This year's winter work season was year #6 . It seems to take a lot longer these days to get something done. Its heck getting old. :) :) Ill try to post another video with a short walk around, when I get the rad...

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Im trying to post a video of the first engine start of the speedster project. Its a short video as I have no radiator on the car yet. After this video I even hand cranked the engine a couple times. The engine has a Rajo 4 valve setup, a Bosch front plate distributor setup, a cast iron dual exhaust f...

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Last time I was at Model T Haven Mark had several styles. He had the adjustable style, some with double blades, and a two blade "propeller style" similar to a Model A. They were all NOS original. The price was good so I bought one of each. He has listed them on e-bay but he may still have some left....

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