Search found 400 matches

by TonyB
Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:32 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: When nobody worried about scratching their T
Replies: 11
Views: 939

Re: When nobody worried about scratching their T

Luke - the second picture looks like a 1913 model. The firewall hood former is not extended 1915, the headlamps appear to be solid brass so it’s not a 1914. It has doors which make it later than 1912 so that leaves 1913. My only concern is the side lamps which appear to be black with brass trim whic...
by TonyB
Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:53 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: First time out for my 1909 Model T touring
Replies: 22
Views: 1298

Re: First time out for my 1909 Model T touring

Now ii can hand crank it, I’ll admit I did try a huge slow speed electric drill. First time I held with my skinny arms, it threw me half way across the workshop. Next time I made a support system and managed to strip a gear in my friends drill. After removing the engine, transmission and rear axle, ...
by TonyB
Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:37 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Aluminum doors...any idea what car they go on?
Replies: 5
Views: 304

Re: Aluminum doors...any idea what car they go on?

Bruce once told me that the Fordor had aluminum doors. But I annoyed him when I pointed out that the doors on my 24 coupe are aluminum. He of course had a response that someone had changed them. Quite honestly I think he was wrong. I can see one being changed due to an accident but not both. A frien...
by TonyB
Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:11 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: First time out for my 1909 Model T touring
Replies: 22
Views: 1298

Re: First time out for my 1909 Model T touring

I’m fairly confident about the date of manufacture with two irrefutable items. Both were in the video but only visible for a few seconds. The first is the serial number tag shows 11150 which according to the encyclopedia is 4 October 1909. 33C2490C-4E08-4737-B575-62FCE3A747B2.jpeg The second was eve...
by TonyB
Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:22 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: 1909 measurement
Replies: 4
Views: 355

Re: 1909 measurement

My top is still up after the filming and there is no one around to help lower it. However I measure 66-67” to the top of the folded wind screen. Hope this helps.
by TonyB
Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:05 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: First time out for my 1909 Model T touring
Replies: 22
Views: 1298

Re: First time out for my 1909 Model T touring

On the hogs head issue. Once we decided it was a repro and I had pictures from Kim on what the original looks like, I stuck it in the mill and chopped off the excess. Now I can reach the two internal nuts with a wrench! There were a few other items that were binding and I cut them away. Now it seems...
by TonyB
Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:25 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Walker hose clamps
Replies: 4
Views: 414

Re: Walker hose clamps

As I mentioned earlier I had checked Lang’s but I had not checked Snyders. I just called and they have a set, that saves a great deal of effort. Thanks guys.
by TonyB
Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:12 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: First time out for my 1909 Model T touring
Replies: 22
Views: 1298

First time out for my 1909 Model T touring

On Monday my grandson came up and we spent the morning working in the yard and the afternoon playing with the 1909 touring. He had been up previously to help with the installation of seat backs, so he is familiar with the vehicle. It started as usual with a flood of the five ball, three cranks and t...
by TonyB
Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:24 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Walker hose clamps
Replies: 4
Views: 414

Walker hose clamps

I need a set of Walker hose clamps for my 1909 touring. I spoke to Steve at Lang’s and they have none in stock and little chance of new stock. They have some of the tooling but they believe it’s incomplete. So does anyone have details of the design so I could have a set fabricated. I looked at the p...
by TonyB
Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:14 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Pay pal users beware
Replies: 29
Views: 960

Re: Pay pal users beware

Calling the local police or sheriff is a complete waste of your time. I was cheated when buying lamps for the 09 and paid by Western Union.
No one cared.
Not the local police.
Not the county Sheriff.
And biggest surprise to me, neither did Western Union.
by TonyB
Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:45 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: 1929 Model T
Replies: 3
Views: 415

Re: 1929 Model T

Interesting.... Ford built almost 5,000 model T engines in 1929 according to dear old Bruce and who would argue with that. I had always assumed that they were 1927 style with a vaporizer and bolts between the block and hogs head. Bruce states that they were “replacement” engines so it’s unlikely the...
by TonyB
Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:05 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Zajicek HC Head
Replies: 19
Views: 974

Re: Zajicek HC Head

I have a Z head on the 14 touring and a Prus on the 15 Speedster. Both are an improvement on the Ford head but I prefer the torque characteristics offered by the Prus. I think the combustion chamber shape is better and it gives more useable torque and better mileage. JMHO
by TonyB
Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:34 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: boring a T block
Replies: 8
Views: 830

Re: boring a T block

Against my advise, the block of Lucky 7 was bored out to 0.125”. It seems to work just fine, lucky I guess 😊😊
by TonyB
Sat May 30, 2020 12:47 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: 1907 - 1909 Ford Model T prototype, courtesy of Trent B.
Replies: 16
Views: 1412

Re: 1907 - 1909 Ford Model T prototype, courtesy of Trent B.

That was a great presentation, thanks to Trent for his research and Rob for making it available. I remember Bruce McCalley making a presentation about the prototype and specifically the angle bracket at the front corner. He casually mentioned it was modified in production to include the lengthening ...
by TonyB
Thu May 28, 2020 9:42 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Social Distancing Tour
Replies: 3
Views: 402

Social Distancing Tour

Today the San Duego club had a Social Distancing Tour from the city out to Campo, a distance of about 45 miles each way. Along the way we climbed to about 4000 feet just outside Pine Valley. We had ten Model Ts on the run and one Hudson. DF403E5F-DA2B-40BB-AC58-6AF194186BB8.jpeg In Campo the choice ...
by TonyB
Mon May 25, 2020 1:04 am
Forum: Live Video Webinars
Topic: Model T Webinar #3 - new T owner stories
Replies: 25
Views: 1114

Re: Model T Webinar #3 - new T owner stories

I asked because Steve thought it had been postponed.
Actually an email a couple of minutes before the online meeting doesn’t just enough notice to get a reasonable response. JMHO
by TonyB
Sun May 24, 2020 11:48 am
Forum: Live Video Webinars
Topic: Model T Webinar #3 - new T owner stories
Replies: 25
Views: 1114

Re: Model T Webinar #3 - new T owner stories

Sorry I missed it, however I’m confused, easy these days, did it happen or was it postponed?
by TonyB
Sat May 23, 2020 10:03 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: What did you do with your T Model in May ?
Replies: 79
Views: 4538

Re: What did you do with your T Model in May ?

I haven’t driven any of my Ts since I returned from Death Valley tour on Feb 28. However I have driven a customers T after I reworked his Ruckstell axle. Also I had the 09 on jack stands and was able to crank it. At last. I have a video which I’ll add a link to in due course. I’m now working on thos...
by TonyB
Sat May 23, 2020 9:52 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Banging noise from under the car...
Replies: 29
Views: 1405

Re: Banging noise from under the car...

If the problem was in the magneto it would be present when the vehicle is stationary. If the thrust washers have failed there will be shiny bits in the rear axle oil. I my experience a UJ failure is worse at low speed and lessens once up to a steady speed. In any case if it’s a UJ or rear axle, the ...
by TonyB
Sun May 10, 2020 12:09 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: P146 Ruckstell Wear Criteria
Replies: 16
Views: 957

Re: P146 Ruckstell Wear Criteria

I make a judgement based on the damage to the teeth and how much marking there is on the teeth. If there is minor marking then I reuse. If the marking is severe and the tooth width is reduced, then I replace.
On a customers car I would replace the gear shown in the picture.
by TonyB
Sun May 10, 2020 12:04 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Triple gear pins
Replies: 16
Views: 1172

Re: Triple gear pins

I see to remember that at one time Glen Chaffin made oversize pins. By this I assume the oversize was on the taper where it inserts into the flywheel and was 0.003”. I am not aware of any marking on either original or oversize replacements so accurate measuring is essential.
by TonyB
Sun May 10, 2020 11:53 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Two simple, dumb questions about the hogshead
Replies: 17
Views: 776

Re: Two simple, dumb questions about the hogshead

From what I have read the bolts are inserted from inside the hogshead with the nuts and split pins on the outside. Do not cut the felt. Adjust it so both ends are at the bottom and hold the rest in place with your favorite gasket maker. I use silicon ultra black but I’m sure others are equally effec...
by TonyB
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:51 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: More hard cranking problems on the 1909
Replies: 14
Views: 938

Re: More hard cranking problems on the 1909

I took a couple of pictures of the opening in the 09 hogshead and one of the adjusting nuts.
09 hogshead inspection hole
09 hogshead inspection hole
09 adjustment nuts
09 adjustment nuts
I don’t need to say more......
by TonyB
Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:46 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: More hard cranking problems on the 1909
Replies: 14
Views: 938

Re: More hard cranking problems on the 1909

Mark- there is no way to remove the bands thru the hogshead opening. Indeed just installing the nut and washer on the reverse pedal shaft is difficult enough. I’ll post pictures when I get the d$&m thing back together.
by TonyB
Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:38 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: 1909 door check straps
Replies: 9
Views: 759

Re: 1909 door check straps

The door straps on my Beaudett bodied October 1909 touring are the screw version. When I had the upholstery off I did check for other holes as it didn’t want to nail into them. I don’t recall seeming any other holes in the vicinity that would result from using footman loops. 1FF15740-BCD2-485A-A859-...
by TonyB
Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:25 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: More hard cranking problems on the 1909
Replies: 14
Views: 938

More hard cranking problems on the 1909

So I thought I had solved the hard cranking problems on the 1909 touring, no such luck. I did start the engine using a later hogshead and flywheel using a T electric starter. We also found the back axle was too far back and was distorting the engine pan. I fixed both these problems. So now I reinsta...
by TonyB
Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:38 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: 1912 engine and transmission for sale. Make an offer
Replies: 6
Views: 920

Re: 1912 engine and transmission for sale. Make an offer

On picture Xxx114 there are various pipes (or something) around the rear main bearing.
What are they?
Also I see it has counter weights.
Can you confirm the type of bolts used?
by TonyB
Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:12 pm
Forum: Live Video Webinars
Topic: Webinar
Replies: 14
Views: 948

Re: Webinar

I joined the first webinar using my iPhone and it was very easy. I then shot the garage tour again using the cell phone and then pieced about 30 short videos into one 15 minute video with absolutely no problems. So far so good. Then I tried to upload to YouTube and I failed. It took my daughter abou...
by TonyB
Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:55 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: rear gearing
Replies: 5
Views: 477

Re: rear gearing

Some time ago I computed the various ratios that are possible in a Model T rear axle as follows: Model t gear ratios Rin pin Ratio. Per 1000@30” wheel 40. 10. 4.000 22.31 mph 40. 11. 3.630 24.6 mph std. 40. 12. 3.333. 26.8 mph 40. 13. 3.070 29.7 mph allowed?? 39. 11. 3.545 25.2 mph 39. 12. 3.250 27....
by TonyB
Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:44 pm
Forum: Live Video Webinars
Topic: What happened to the youtube video(Webinar)
Replies: 3
Views: 564

Re: What happened to the youtube video(Webinar)

The next webinar is on Saturday (4/18) morning at 10am
by TonyB
Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:53 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Bolt Chart v 2.1
Replies: 9
Views: 687

Re: Bolt Chart v 2.1

Here is a theory about suffix B and C bolts. Mine appears to use five -A short bolts and two -D bolts in my Oct 1909 vehicle. During the first year there were several changes to the rear axle associated with the backing plate. It could be that the area either side of the spool with originally thinne...
by TonyB
Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:11 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Bolt Chart v 2.1
Replies: 9
Views: 687

Re: Bolt Chart v 2.1

I went out to the shop this morning and measured the length of the bolts on the differential housing on my October 1909 Model T. The two either side of the spool are 2” long while the remaining five are 5/8” long. According to page 446 of the Encyclopedia the change from the pressed axle halves to c...
by TonyB
Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:35 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Bolt Chart v 2.1
Replies: 9
Views: 687

Re: Bolt Chart v 2.1

The bolts holding the 1909 rear axle halves together are incorrect. There are five on one size and two slightly longer. Tomorrow I will take a couple of pictures and measure the bolts. I will also find from the encyclopedia when the change from the pressed steel to casting occurred.
by TonyB
Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:14 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Virtual Model T Tour
Replies: 240
Views: 8905

Re: Virtual Model T Tour

This photo was on a peak of about 8000 feet near Big Bear in Southern California late last year. The tour was only three days but we had a great time even though one member received a traffic ticket on the way home.
Big Bear in 2019
Big Bear in 2019
by TonyB
Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:26 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: LIVE Video Webinar for MTFCA Easter Sunday
Replies: 35
Views: 1619

Re: LIVE Video Webinar for MTFCA Easter Sunday

The search key is:
MTFCA webinar
by TonyB
Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:56 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: 30-3 tube
Replies: 6
Views: 504

Re: 30-3 tube

A picture would help to start a discussion.
Anyone else having problems. I put two on the 09 in January and they are still fine.
by TonyB
Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:52 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: LIVE Video Webinar for MTFCA Easter Sunday
Replies: 35
Views: 1619

Re: LIVE Video Webinar for MTFCA Easter Sunday

I caught the last 30 minutes and it worked quite well. I didn’t put my hand up as I’m having a lazy day and still in PJs. I did loose connection about 11:33 but rentered with very little effort. It will be fun when we start discussing T issues like my hard cranking, which is now thankfully resolved....
by TonyB
Fri Apr 10, 2020 3:41 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Virtual Model T Tour
Replies: 240
Views: 8905

Re: Virtual Model T Tour

This was on a 2018 local tour into the Borrego Desert. A local artist was commissioned to build a series of early animal statues, totaling over over twenty scattered over several miles at the side of desert roads.
Tony in Borrego Desert
Tony in Borrego Desert
by TonyB
Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:43 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Old topic - Magneto Output and speed..and volts and amps, andcycles per second
Replies: 25
Views: 1290

Re: Old topic - Magneto Output and speed..and volts and amps, andcycles per second

Each magnet has a north and south and they are arranged so there are a total of eight norths and eight souths in a complete revolution. My original post ignored the placement of the magnets are arranged to make eight poles not sixteen. Therefore I am wrong. At 1000rpm frequency will be 133 Hz (1000*...
by TonyB
Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:43 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Virtual Model T Tour
Replies: 240
Views: 8905

Re: Virtual Model T Tour

I couldn’t figure out the TWO reason why Wayne’s picture was in Canada. The flag was a giveaway but where was the second ? Then I enlarged the picture and sure enough there was Good Queen Victoria. 😊
by TonyB
Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:11 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Rewooding instructions needed please.
Replies: 9
Views: 634

Re: Rewooding instructions needed please.

Rather than buy ash I would suggest you experiment with some 2x4 pine. Measure the existing space and the make a rough pattern with the pine and start creating your pile of sawdust. I did this on the 17 touring and ended up with a pile about 18” high. Great fun. Once you get the correct shape, mark ...
by TonyB
Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:50 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Old topic - Magneto Output and speed..and volts and amps, andcycles per second
Replies: 25
Views: 1290

Re: Old topic - Magneto Output and speed..and volts and amps, andcycles per second

If the chart is wrong, what should it be? I don’t know how to compute the voltage as offhand I don’t know the strength of the magnets or the number of turns in each of the sixteen coils. However I think the frequency should be easy to compute. Each magnet passes all sixteen coils with a North Pole a...
by TonyB
Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:06 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Virtual Model T Tour
Replies: 240
Views: 8905

Re: Virtual Model T Tour

This was during the California Dreamin’ tour in May last year. The location is Jalama beach which is the quintessential California beach, complete with a burger bar.
Jalama beach - May 2019
Jalama beach - May 2019
by TonyB
Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:42 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Virtual Model T Tour
Replies: 240
Views: 8905

Re: Virtual Model T Tour

On the way home from Montana, I stopped in Yellowstone NP for a couple of days. The afternoon traffic was awful so most of the running was before 11am. This was taken along the Yellowstone River.
Along the Yellowstone River
Along the Yellowstone River
by TonyB
Mon Apr 06, 2020 4:59 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Virtual Model T Tour
Replies: 240
Views: 8905

Re: Virtual Model T Tour

This is one of my favorite from 2019, in Montana where in one day we climbed to over 9000 feet and I did 235 miles in a single day
Tony & 14 touring at 9000 feet
Tony & 14 touring at 9000 feet
by TonyB
Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:07 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: NEW MODEL T PARTS 20-40% OFF
Replies: 15
Views: 2582

Re: NEW MODEL T PARTS 20-40% OFF

Joe I believe that note has been on the site for several years. Easy solution, call on Monday and read your email over the phone.
I heard a rumor that the discount ended on April 1st. A word to the wise
by TonyB
Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:04 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Virtual Model T Tour
Replies: 240
Views: 8905

Re: Virtual Model T Tour

This was taken during a tour of Death Valley in February this year.
Abandoned Bank in Ryolite
Abandoned Bank in Ryolite
by TonyB
Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:57 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: WTB: early auto camp items
Replies: 36
Views: 4055

Re: WTB: early auto camp items

I have a set of binoculars in a leather pouch which I don’t use any more. They are dated 1918 and belonged to a J Cripps, probably in WWI. I have no idea what they are worth. I bought them in London about sixty years ago. Contact me by email so I can send pictures if you are interested at tonybowker...
by TonyB
Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:29 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Post a photo of your antique Model T License Plate
Replies: 139
Views: 6320

Re: Post a photo of your antique Model T License Plate

This is the Year Of Manufacture plate on my 1914 Touring. I believe 1914 was the first year that that California supplied the plate. Prior to that, the state gave you a number and the owner had to buy the digits and fix them to the vehicle.
1914 license plate
1914 license plate
by TonyB
Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:26 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Is Chaffins' closed because of the virus.
Replies: 3
Views: 453

Re: Is Chaffins' closed because of the virus.

Dave was working on Friday😊
by TonyB
Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:24 am
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: Radiator for a Model T Ford 1909/10
Replies: 2
Views: 772

Re: Radiator for a Model T Ford 1909/10

I read the original EBay posting, notice the dates. Probably a scam or ????? ——————————— Check if this part fits your vehicle Select Vehicle Radiator for a Model T Ford 1909/10 Radiator for a Model T Ford 1909/10 $1,000.00 + $200.00 Shipping 0 bids | Ends in 23h 51m Est. Delivery Wed, Apr 8 - Thu, A...
by TonyB
Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:27 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.
Replies: 74
Views: 5797

Re: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.

Well after nearly three months of messing around, we found the cause of the hard cranking on the 09. You may remember that when we disconnected the drive shaft it cranked easily so we deduced the problem lay in the position of the rear axle was about 3/8” too far back. A36A2307-8467-410D-9E3F-19E335...
by TonyB
Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:57 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Strictly Model T Humor
Replies: 100
Views: 11685

Re: Strictly Model T Humor

My favorite has to be the two little lads in the Coupe.

My first T was a Coupe bought in Minnesota and trailered home in 1976, it took two years to restore and I still have it in the barn.
by TonyB
Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:14 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.
Replies: 74
Views: 5797

Re: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.

As usual with these complex problems, the cause and therefore solution was staring me in the face but I was too focussed to see it. Look at the nuts on the radius rods. 0077E5E6-01DE-4CEB-81A5-FA6940FC3AB7.jpeg Notice how close the it is to the end of the thread. Yes it’s about 3/8” along the rod th...
by TonyB
Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:48 am
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: For Sale crank, muffler, horn button, coil lid
Replies: 2
Views: 445

Re: For Sale crank, muffler, horn button, coil lid

Will Walter who first asked for the crank please contact me😊
Tonybowker@aol.com
by TonyB
Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:23 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: For Sale crank, muffler, horn button, coil lid
Replies: 2
Views: 445

For Sale crank, muffler, horn button, coil lid

For Sale more bits for sale all destined for Chickasha. Early crank with aluminum handle. Nice Cindi on, was on the 09 but I found with bakelite handle which I think is correct for that year. Asking $20 plus shipping. SOLD PENDING PAYMENT 4ACD5F8D-6ADB-479C-95EF-C699D7CBEF57.jpeg A pair of cast muff...
by TonyB
Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:40 am
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: Fans. Horn and Oiler for sale
Replies: 2
Views: 441

Re: Fans. Horn and Oiler for sale

The Oiler is sold pending payment. 😊
by TonyB
Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:35 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.
Replies: 74
Views: 5797

Re: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.

Today rather than packing for Chickasha, I checked the rear spring on the 1909. Man that thing is heavy. My thought was to just reverse it and see how the gap changed. After three hours pushing and shoving, the gap is exactly the same. So the problem is not the spring. Before the rebuild, I checked ...
by TonyB
Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:02 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: Fans. Horn and Oiler for sale
Replies: 2
Views: 441

Fans. Horn and Oiler for sale

These were scheduled for Chickasha but...... For Sale are two early fans The first is in fine condition and is complete with spindle and grease fitting. I can send more pictures to an email address if interested. Asking $45 plus shipping. SOLD PENDING PAYMENT C193B4FE-3A64-46B5-BAFD-B9AE4FF902E9.jpe...
by TonyB
Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:34 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: J Brown model 110 side lamp for sale
Replies: 3
Views: 437

Re: J Brown model 110 side lamp for sale

It’s definitely marked as Model 110 and it is brass plated steel as it’s somewhat magnetic.
by TonyB
Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:30 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: Brass lamp for sale E&J model 466
Replies: 2
Views: 357

Re: Brass lamp for sale E&J model 466

The E&J is spoken for😊
by TonyB
Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:37 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: Early fans for sale
Replies: 2
Views: 518

Early fans for sale

I have two early style fans for sale These were scheduled for Chickasha but...... This one is in really nice condition Asking $45 plus shipping CCEE99E0-1A02-44B2-81B7-E1FCE907312E.jpeg F35D7669-41B9-4969-ABE3-727C4F430484.jpeg This one is not so good Asking $20 plus shipping 14B94415-4214-4247-ACEA...
by TonyB
Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:25 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: J Brown model 110 side lamp for sale
Replies: 3
Views: 437

J Brown model 110 side lamp for sale

These were scheduled for Chickasha but......

For Sale Jns Brown side lamp for sale. I can send more pictures to an email address if interested.
Asking $115 plus shipping.
Tony at tonybowkerAT aol.com
0DFAF000-186F-4A28-92DF-41B020E293EC.jpeg
6D2F0492-757D-44D1-904C-920A04981398.jpeg
by TonyB
Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:21 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: Brass lamp for sale E&J model 466
Replies: 2
Views: 357

Brass lamp for sale E&J model 466

These were scheduled for Chickasha but...... For Sale E&J Brass lamp model 466 complete with burner. I can send more pictures to an email address if interested. Asking $350 plus shipping. SOLD PENDING PAYMENT Tony at tonybowkerAT aol.com 6AD5CEB2-B014-4108-ACE7-55B96CAC1700.jpeg A44DA780-A5F2-41F2-8...
by TonyB
Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:16 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: Ford 466 Brass Light for sale
Replies: 0
Views: 316

Ford 466 Brass Light for sale

These were scheduled for Chickasha but...... For Sale Ford Brass lamp model 466 complete with burner. I can send more pictures to an email address if interested. Asking $350 plus shipping. Tony at tonybowkerAT aol.com 29E90C67-0C7A-4961-A65D-2C39AA8785CB.jpeg 29E90C67-0C7A-4961-A65D-2C39AA8785CB.jpeg
by TonyB
Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:01 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Chickasha Status - NOW CANCELED
Replies: 34
Views: 5070

Re: Chickasha Status

I have cancelled. We have been requested to self isolate and driving half way across the country hardly fits with that request. The goal of the self isolation is not to stop me getting sick but to slow the spread of the virus. If we as a country don’t achieve a slow down, all medical facilities will...
by TonyB
Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:43 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.
Replies: 74
Views: 5797

Re: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.

Great news today.... I hand cranked the 09 motor and on the third pull it started. I can now feel the compression quite separate from new motor stiffness Scott - my theory on the the axle being too far back is that the torque tube is at an angle so it pulls the motor, which is normally horizontal, p...
by TonyB
Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:28 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.
Replies: 74
Views: 5797

Re: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.

Scott asked lots of question which may have some bearing on the problems. I’ll try to answer but remember I bought a kit if parts and quite honestly have little idea on the source of parts. I was told it ran some twelve years ago and broke a crank. I don’t know if this problem caused the broken cran...
by TonyB
Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:30 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.
Replies: 74
Views: 5797

Re: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.

Well after a couple of weeks poking around I believe I have located the problem. In the course of the work I removed the motor, more later. While it was out I replaced the hogs head and flywheel with a starter version and ran the motor. It turned fine and after a little adjustment of the five ball c...
by TonyB
Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:13 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: steering arm question
Replies: 6
Views: 951

Re: steering arm question

While I agree all steering arms appear to have a taper, they are not all the same. I believe the very early Ts with a short steering column use a different angle than later models. I suspect the 1912 torpedo used yet a different design and I suppose the Improved cars yet another. BB7F0A58-FBD1-4F76-...
by TonyB
Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:33 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Cranking an early hand crank T
Replies: 32
Views: 3557

Re: Cranking an early hand crank T

I did some comparison measurements between the 09 and 14 and sure enough the wheelbase on the 09 is about 1/2” longer than the 14. The distance from the rear of the running board to the center if the wheel is also greater by about 1/2”. Conclusion is the axle is too far back. Right now the only thin...
by TonyB
Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:30 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Cranking an early hand crank T
Replies: 32
Views: 3557

Re: Cranking an early hand crank T

I slide the fourth main in and out with no binding. I measured from the rear pan bolts to the chasssis on each side and they are equal. Below are the pictures of the distance between the back of the pan and the fourth main when in contact with the plate on the torque tube. That distance measure 3/8”...
by TonyB
Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:01 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Cranking an early hand crank T
Replies: 32
Views: 3557

Re: Cranking an early hand crank T

This sure is a puzzle. Norm may have hit on something close to the problem, except the UJ is not too long but too short. Let’s back up. The engine is out and it turns quite freely. The front and support holes in the pan all lineup with the chassis. Just to make sure I tried a spare pan and it too li...
by TonyB
Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:48 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: WHat Have You Done To Your Model T In March?
Replies: 98
Views: 8378

Re: WHat Have You Done To Your Model T In March?

On the second day of the Death Valley tour the overflow tube solder failed in the header tank after driving along a disused rail bed. We found a garage to do a quick Solder repair but I thought it needed a little more support. So yesterday I pulled the radiator and soldered the tube and the support ...
by TonyB
Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:35 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Cranking an early hand crank T
Replies: 32
Views: 3557

Re: Cranking an early hand crank T

PROGRESS Now I’m back from the Death Valley tour, I made a start on finding why the 09 is so hard to crank. I have carefully removed bolts until I could move the motor free of the universal joint and hey presto I can now crank the motor. Of course it’s still a little tight but that is expected of a...
by TonyB
Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:46 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: tips n tricks on installing curved wood pieces top bows...
Replies: 10
Views: 1216

Re: tips n tricks on installing curved wood pieces top bows...

My techniques may not be original or fit all top bows. When I did the 1924 I bought the four pieces that run between the side bows. I did this as I had estimated the lengths of each was different. When I received the wood I was correct, each had a specific position and length. So now I had to make t...
by TonyB
Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:56 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Chickasaw Dates
Replies: 7
Views: 1064

Re: Chickasaw Dates

Robert
I’m planning attending, at NJ5, from San Diego, California.
by TonyB
Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:17 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.
Replies: 74
Views: 5797

Re: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.

This afternoon I had an hour to spare so I installed the hogs head with just the low transmission band. The low band was the style with the long thin ear and measured thicker than the more common button style. There is a little more drag but both ears appear to be quite loose until the pedal is depr...
by TonyB
Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:45 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.
Replies: 74
Views: 5797

Re: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.

Kerry, the only thick clutch plate I remember seeing was a large plate with the cut outs on the outside of the ring.
by TonyB
Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:08 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.
Replies: 74
Views: 5797

Re: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.

In describing the problem to some friends we found this picture of the brake drum of the 09 during assembly. 23B6EADA-95CD-4E94-8616-972E48BF37CE.jpeg As you can see the lugs are in excellent condition so the plates are not hanging on them. However the lugs do not reach the back of the drum so it do...
by TonyB
Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:14 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.
Replies: 74
Views: 5797

Re: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.

David The clutch plates engage when compressed. The spring does the compression The spring force is transmitted from the spring to the inner points of the three arms. This force then goes through the three screws to the inner ring. The inner ring compresses the clutch plates. If we remove the screws...
by TonyB
Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:12 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.
Replies: 74
Views: 5797

Re: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.

David
Sorry to disagree but the pressure from the spring is transferred to the clutch plates thru the three screws in the fingers. With the screws removed, the clutch is free. I have done that and the clutch is now free.
by TonyB
Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:34 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.
Replies: 74
Views: 5797

Re: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.

I just checked the three bolts. The thin heads are all on the inside.
Three cam bolts
Three cam bolts
Thanks for the idea.
by TonyB
Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:01 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.
Replies: 74
Views: 5797

Re: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.

After thinking about it overnite I believe there are at least three possible sources of friction: 1 the clutch plates are catching on grooves in the brake drum 2 for various reasons I used demountable bands even though they cannot be removed thru the inspection hole in the hogs head. These bands are...
by TonyB
Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:55 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.
Replies: 74
Views: 5797

Re: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.

I believe that with the screws removed there is no pressure on the clutch plates and then the plates are free to rotate.
I know that when the clutch slips, the solution is to tighten the screws clockwise. Therefore taking the screws out (counter clockwise) will remove all pressure.
by TonyB
Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:05 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.
Replies: 74
Views: 5797

Re: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.

I was wrong in thinking only the brake drum should turn, after reading the MTFCA transmission book they are operating correctly. So either the bands were hanging, or the Clutch was not releasing. Being an early hogs head with the small square hole it’s tough to see and measure. Also I guess the plat...
by TonyB
Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:02 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.
Replies: 74
Views: 5797

Re: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.

Kerry
I mentioned in the text that I removed the screws so there was no pressure on the clutch plates. With the screws in place I couldn’t turn the rear wheels.
by TonyB
Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:26 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Hard crank on my 1909 touring.
Replies: 74
Views: 5797

Hard crank on my 1909 touring.

Many of you have been following my adventures restoring the 1909 Touring. Well this last week I have been trying to get it started. Way back in 2017 after the motor was rebuilt I did actually use a later flywheel and hogs head and had the engine running. Not for long but it seemed ok. Now after all ...
by TonyB
Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:02 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Epic Vintage Ford Cover
Replies: 18
Views: 1749

Re: Epic Vintage Ford Cover

Wonderful painting😊😊
The middle touring looks just like my 09😊😊
by TonyB
Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:30 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: 6v to 12v model T starter conversion
Replies: 13
Views: 1064

Re: 6v to 12v model T starter conversion

Of course I agree with Ron regarding the power capability if the T generator, his experience coincides with mine very closely. On one car, the customer really wanted to retain a completely stock appearance but use 12 volts for starting and lites. So I used a modified rebuilt starter and generator wi...
by TonyB
Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:58 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: 6v to 12v model T starter conversion
Replies: 13
Views: 1064

Re: 6v to 12v model T starter conversion

This is in reply to John.... There are four coils in a Model T starter. If we assume each is 0.1 ohm and wired as two in series and then the pair in parallel, the resistance is surprise —- 0.1 ohm. Now if we wire all four in series the resistance is 0.4 ohm Everyone following so far? Ok if we supply...
by TonyB
Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:10 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: 4 valve Rajo and an OF.
Replies: 7
Views: 937

Re: 4 valve Rajo and an OF.

I have an OF on the speedster and on the 14 touring and I think they the very best carb for the T. However I have close friend with a four valve rajo and we have tried number of carbs with varying degrees of success. All were trial and error and it’s been a fun ride over the last 5-6 years. However ...
by TonyB
Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:45 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: 23 Center door engine locks up and then starts again???
Replies: 33
Views: 2045

Re: 23 Center door engine locks up and then starts again??? For sale

Many things can cause an engine to seize but most mechanics are familiar with the clearances to avoid such problems. We now know it’s a newly rebuilt motor so it probably has aluminum pistons and new rings. Most mechanics know how to gap the rings so that’s unlikely to be the problem. Remember we do...
by TonyB
Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:49 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: What's Your Chickasha Space?
Replies: 23
Views: 1800

Re: What's Your Chickasha Space?

I (Tony Bowker) will be in the North building at NJ 5
I’ll have some used Ruckstell bits and what is left over from the 1909 Touring restoration.
by TonyB
Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:56 am
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: Sliding gear for Starr/Planator transmission
Replies: 2
Views: 300

Sliding gear for Starr/Planator transmission

For Sale - two sliding gears for the Starr and Planator two speed drive shaft transmission. FA17B5B1-F66D-4CDE-AA1B-1CB07A1824CD.png One is brand new and has never been used. Asking $100 obo plus shipping. The second is the original gear from my transmission and was repaired by Alan Schimit. Asking ...
by TonyB
Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:47 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Cranking an early hand crank T
Replies: 32
Views: 3557

Cranking an early hand crank T

Those who have been following my restoration of the 1909 touring may remember that I built the engine over two years ago and I started it by temporary installing a later flywheel and hogs head. It ran for a few minutes then I shut it down. The engine has been sat now for close to 24 months and now I...
by TonyB
Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:40 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: 1909 Roadster upholstery
Replies: 20
Views: 1943

Re: 1909 Roadster upholstery

The upholstery on my 09 touring front seat is probably the same as a roadster. It is leather and looks original though it could have been replaced in the 1950s restoration.
Front seat if 1909 touring
Front seat if 1909 touring
by TonyB
Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:58 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Fallbrook Tour - Two Days Away!!!
Replies: 27
Views: 2353

Re: Fallbrook Tour - Two Days Away!!!

More pictures
Line of cars
Line of cars
Some drivers
Some drivers
by TonyB
Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:28 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Fallbrook Tour - Two Days Away!!!
Replies: 27
Views: 2353

Re: Fallbrook Tour - Two Days Away!!!

I was able to attend the first day of the tour. The routes were spectacular. Mainly back roads with very little traffic with visits to the Deer Park winery and the Antique steam and Gas Engine Museum. Then we had great meal at the Pala Mesa Resort we had over twenty cars and close to 50 people with ...