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You won't believe the difference. There is a reason Stromberg sold over three quarters of a million OF's in less than 4 years.

U and J definitely better for high speed and with a replaceable Venturi you can open them up even more.

They are different carbs. The U and J is more of a performance carb, will burn more gas, has more Zoom than an OF. OF is probably smoother, better economy and better for a stock engine.
Generally speaking, an OF is not big enough for a speedster engine, the U & J is very popular for speedsters.

The TT shifter is held on with 4 bolts, the car shifter is held on with 3.

There are more differences including size but that's the basic way to tell.

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I have more!!!
Jay has more!!

Here are a couple nos ones. I've seen a couple No-Kick but it's the only Synchronous I've ever found.

What is the third one from the left in the bottom row??
I think I have all the rest of them.
There was a great thread about timers a few years ago.
I posted some of mine then.
I'll try to post one from my phone in a few.

Somehow Craftsman doesn't quite cover Robb's abilities.
Artist, woodworker, ironmonger, etc.
That is the nicest camp trailer ever.

Need a LIKE button!!

Galen, I'm sure you didn't see anywhere near all of it. I've known him for 30 years and more and I have never seen all of it. He has a gorgeous 59 Cadillac 2 dr hardtop, Model T's, fire engines and the crown of his collection, a 1912 Kissell originally owned by Judge Clark of Virginia City, Montana ...

You would be amazed at his collection, warehouses, storage units and barns at his farm filled with cars, trucks, tractors, fire engines, parts, memorabilia, etc. You would also be amazed at how much he sells and what he gets for it. Self made wealth, a walking encyclopedia of automotive knowledge an...

I'm your huckleberry!!!
Sent you an email.

I have been using some gasket material from the McMaster gasket assortment set that is about the same thickness as the original Asbestos gaskets were. They apparently don't sell it separately but it is vegetable fiber who it is impervious to alcohols. I cut them on a gasket cutter and save the cente...

Since things are all shut down here and I do my radio shows from my recording studio at my home, MTPR -- Montana Public Radio -- has asked me to pick up the slack by recording some "Evergreen" shows that they can broadcast if one of the local show hosts is unwilling or unable to come in to the studi...

It's a learning curve all the time. I just got about $200 worth of taps and dies in the mail, I have every conceivable size in Imperial threads but hardly any in Metric. I've been making adjustable jets for Zeniths lately and all the plugs are Metric sizes. I've been whacking off the old almost alwa...

Larry, I sent you money today. Thanks, Stan Howe

If you take a punch and tap the venturi where is shows through the hole it will probably collapse pretty easily. If not, it easily presses out the front opening. It is virtually a no-lathe-skills project to make a venturi out of Aluminum for them. The little screw just ahead of the open hole holds i...

He's not on the forum often, but you should check out Robb Wolff in Calgary. He built a camper for his 27 that was about as cool as they get. He used to camp a lot. Maybe still does, haven't talked to him for awhile.

How old is Carston already?
Seems like he was new just a year or two ago but he actually must be about ten?

Sent you an email, Larry. Thanks

Several accessory carbs used those. D and B, some Neverfail, others. They were also sold for a nickel apiece to fix one that fell off or wore out on Ford issue carbs.

I think most people were expecting this. While it is a disappointment it was done early enough most people are not on the road yet. I decided last week I was not going so it doesn't affect me a lot but it is going to put a crimp in a lot of people's plans. We are all going to have to wait and see ho...

Bowl cracks??

There are things I still haven't found from my last shop cleaning about ten years ago.
Never again!!

It is not for a Winfield. It is what is commonly called a banjo fitting for a Stromberg O, L or M series carburetor. www.strombergof.com I'm well over 1000 Stromberg rebuilds, this fitting is part of the conversion to modern needle and seat that I make for Stromberg O, L, M series carburetors that d...

Yapp did not drill the steam holes which caused the head gaskets to blow, mostly to the outside but some times to the inside. Roy from Calgary bought one of the three I bought and hauled across the border. Like me, he ground and ground on it, painted it and put it on his speedster, first morning of ...

I don't recognize it. Bob, I would be interested in some photos of the parts you got. I'm always looking for parts, especially Stromberg and zenith. One of the great finds at chickasha several years ago was a drawer case of nos Stromberg and zenith parts. I just used a zenith needle and seat out of ...

It is a Stromberg fuel inlet. It mounts to the bottom of many of the larger M and O series carburetors with a through bolt. Originally it would have a cone shaped fuel screen inside.

I know a couple other people who did the same thing with theirs. I wasted a day grinding the lousy quality casting to where it looked good, painted it, put it on and fooled with it for a month trying to get it to run right on my speedster. It was one of those they sold with the core so far off the s...

A t will start and run at 30 below.
I do not.
I will have an exhaust heater in the coupe when I get a top on it.
Sounds like fun for about a day.

I cut mine in half so nobody would be tempted!

I sent an email this morning but no response. stanhowemt@aol.com

Mark, I'm feeling better than I was after my heart problems. I'm still trying to get the back log done and then I'll see where this goes.

People used to pour coffee in their saucer to cool it off and blow on it so it would cool faster.
When it was cool it was "saucered and blowed.'
If you are reading anything else into it ..........

Dan, the Breeze went to a guy in Virginia who is bringing a 1910 Model 20 Hupmobile back to life. It is the only one of those I've seen that looked like it ran long enough to actually wear out before it got replaced. The spindle for the air valve slide was worn about 1/4 of the way through, the thro...

Dennis, I have always wanted to put together some kind of a book about them other than what I did for the winter clinic about 12 years ago. There are not enough hours in the day. It would be of very limited interest but there would be some people who probably would be interested.

----------------------------------------- Thanks for the nice comments. Norman, nearly every carburetor is test run before it goes in a box. Exceptions are those that are going to some countries in Europe, New Zealand and Australia for the most part. It is due to residual gasoline odor that their sn...

There was a re-winding shop here for years and also one in Havre. The Havre one was owned by an old man named Al. He rebuilt magnetos, generators, starters, electric motors etc. for many years. His wife, Hazel, could out talk any woman I have ever known. She could make a half hour story out of buyin...

Thanks, years ago somebody was wanting to come do a story on my collection of accessory carbs and wanting me to donate them to the museum. Once they found out donate was not in my vocabulary the whole idea went south. I've sold quite a few of them since then but have bought a few. I still like them....

Zenith S4BF carb and manifold, same as this one. Rebuilt, new Venturi, adjustable main jet for easy mixture adjustment, etc. $850 delivered in US. Delivery mid April, after Chickasha. DSCF1917.JPG DSCF1918.JPG DSCF1923.JPG Please do not use the relay system on here to contact me, it seldom works. st...

Right hand drive hence the bent throttle arm.

All sold. Just eye candy.

Drove 450 miles round trip yesterday with a trailer behind to pick up two Ruckstells and a frame with a dropped front axle. Bought the Ruckstells a while back and was just waiting for a warm day to go after them. There was also a pickup box with a pre-starter engine there but we couldn't round up th...

Pretty ingenious although more time consuming that I would ever spend to do it. I have a gear reduction motor I picked up somewhere years ago that will turn the engine over at about 100 rpm, hangs on a cut off crank with a coupler and will run for days on end for about a nickels worth of electricity...

Scary!! There is a strip in Idaho that you come up the river, NOT DOWN because of the prevailing wind, just before you get to the landing zone you cut the power, pull the flaps and pull the nose up because there is about 400 feet of runway at about a 20 degree slope and you need to be in a good clim...

Typed this once on my phone but as usual it wouldn't load to this site and dumped it. Oh well, Luke, a friend of mine with thousands of hours and a beautiful Ryan took off from there in mid afternoon, couldn't gain enough altitude to clear the trees, stalled it trying to climb, it went in tail down,...

I couldn't find my photos of flying in and out of Benchmark or any of Dupuyer but here is one I took a few years ago for an auction brochure for an auction we had a ways south of there. Sorry about the Volkswagon, the mountains are of the Bob Marshall wilderness off to the west.

Dupuyer is about 100 miles north of me. It is pronounced do PUY er, is just a small village on the south side of the Blackfeet reservation. Off to the west there are some huge ranches, several wilderness outfitter operations and a LOT of wilderness since it sits to the south and east of the Bob Mars...

If it runs OK just send it to them but tell the buyer if there is a problem with it I'll take care of it. Shouldn't be any problems.

I don't remember just who I did this carb for but they wanted it with "Patina" so it matched their T. That's why it is not polished.

Whoever buys it, this has been awhile, if you want to send it back and have it checked over just give me a call after you get it.

Stan Howe

I'm already too fat for that but I sure do like it!!

Finished two carburetors for Model T's, in the mail tomorrow. Did NOT have a leap year date last night or Sunday dinner with my somewhat significant other. Just came in from the shop.

Just thrown that in the box with the whistle, Jay. I'll also send you an email.

I've been wanting to do this carb setup for a speedster for a couple years and have been working on this when ever I could get a few minutes to work on it for awhile. It is a U & J -- one of the best period correct carbs originally produced as a Model T Accessory -- mounted to an accessory V type ca...

Rajo overhead on a T coupe.

Came in last fall, headed to South Dakota to go on a Rajo.

I sent you an email, Jay. I'll take it if you still have it.

We named those Lizard heads Yapp Crapp for a reason. I cut mine in half with my chop saw and threw it on the iron pile so it would get hauled in for scrap instead of causing problems for somebody else. IMHO or NSHO the Prus Iron head is the best of the new heads. The PRUS Aluminum head is next. Of t...

Well,I typed this on my phone while I was having coffee but as usual it won't post from my phone and just dumped it when I tried to post it so....... Yeah, I make them by the handful. I have no idea how many. Virtually every one is broken, bent or worn to the point where it doesn't go down into the ...

Is this the small pipe thread one, 1/16 NPT??? I have new ones, no originals.

Please reply to stanhowemt@aol.com instead of the relay deal on here, which I usually don't get.

Either of the bottom inlets is fine.

I'm over 2000 Carburetors, hard to remember them all and all the deals about them.
OE1s are great carbs.

I'll be back home later today and at the shop either later today or early tomorrow and will post pictures of the sheets and then mail you a copy asap.
I had forgotten you got this on a trade.

The knob next to the fuel bowl is high speed, the one on the riser is idle. Fuel inlet on the bottom, fuel level at the plug on the bowl.
It was test run and adjusted before shipping, it should only need minor tweaking.
If you can't find your instruction sheet let me know and I'll send you one.

Donnie, there was probably -- or at least should have been - an instruction sheet in the box when you got it.

Looks like the one I was holding for payment isn't going to be paid for since it's been a couple weeks and I haven't heard anything more.
For sale, one big drum Ruckstell + still have the small drum. Thanks, Stan

Dallas, I won't be at ocf again. That's a busy time of year for me and I can't walk as much as you have to walk there. As far as chickasha, I think I'll be there, I dunno for sure. You are right about free time. I am no longer taking in much work, I'm still trying to wade through work that's here. I...

I think they suffered from poor cam timing -- or at least I've been told that. Somebody back east works on those and makes a cam for them that makes them run better.

Nah, I just cash the check, throw the box in the post office, go back to the shop and start on another one. I'm easily a couple thousand carburetors into this, I tend to just want to get it done, leak tested, test run, in a box and gone. I have shelves of carbs needing to be done, not enough hours i...

Two of the Big Drum Ruckstells are sold and paid for, one is on hold until payment, the small drum one is still available.

Sent you an email.

Put this one in a box and hauled it to the post office to go back home to its Hupmobile owner. Not many of these around. Most were taken off, thrown as far as the owner could throw it and replaced with something else. This one is one of the ones that survived, runs fine on the test engine. It is a B...

Everybody in Montana knows him if they have any involvement with horses, especially Draft horses. He built the wagons for the Borax 100th anniversary that were in the Rose Parade in Pasadena.

I like stuff like this.
Most people don't seem to, they want everything shiny and new.
I'm always afraid if I donated things like this to a museum they would just throw it in the back room and forget about it.
I also have a very cool metal lathe made from Model t parts

Powder coating pretty well hides the pock marks and imperfections.
Brass coating highlights them.

Plus there are not enough hours in the day, days in the week or weeks in the year to do everything.

It also makes a difference what condition the core is in. One that is beat all to hell, missing parts and has some soup can Venturi soldered in is a lot harder to rebuild than a nice core. That said, I sure wish there was a source for brass bowls for these, Holley two screw, Holley H1, Holley G, etc.

I also used the last of the original needle and seat assemblies that I have been modifying in these. I finally broke down and bought the odd size thread tap and die set some of them need. Some are SAE standard and some aren't. Just like the bowl nut. I have never been able to find a tap in that size...

Mark, I make a lot of bolts and screws from brass hex stock. This had the original bolts with it when it came in but they were rusty and rounded off so I made these.

Thanks for the calls and messages, this one is sold and has been in the queue for a couple months. I have a couple cores but none with this bell crank setup. I have never been able to find any literature showing the bell crank but I think it was close to the end of the run for u and j. There are oth...

Be in a box and in the mail tomorrow. This is what takes the time.......custom bolts for mounting to the manifold, 5/16 x 18 with a custom washer . Yeah, I have every possible size of bolt and washers, but a carb this pretty going on a nice speedster begs for a little more brass. Three little custom...

Burger mentioned what I think is this fender patch from eastern Montana probably done when it was a long ways to a Ford dealer and the T owner had far more time than money. It had probably laid in the iron pile for close to 100 years when I dug it out. We sold it at an auction in eastern Montana abo...

Is this it??

I think that was my fender patch photo. I'll see if I can find it and post it again.

Dallas, it's like I used to tell the kids working for me. "Stick around and pay attention boys, pretty soon you'll be smarter than you were when you got here!" That was usually right after I told them "Lefty Loosey, Righty Tighty!"

Dallas, it's like I used to tell the kids working for me. "Stick around and pay attention boys, pretty soon you'll be smarter than you were when you got here!" That was usually right after I told them "Lefty Loosey, Righty Tighty!"

I trust my 40 year old nos Wards Riverside clinchers more than any new ones I've seen. Also the tubes.

It actually worked. I added my membership number and my name became BOLD.

Too new. Dean has an 8N.

I would order some USA of Canadian made grade 5 coarse thread bolts longer than needed from MSC or another reputable supplier. I would not use Chinese or near east, ie: Israel, Turkey made bolts. I would cut the coarse thread ends so that they threaded area was about 1/16 shorter than the depth of t...

I would just type "NICE!!!" but any message has to have ten characters now so I wrote it out.

We'll see you in Chickasha.

NICE!!!!

Now it does!!

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Plug the openings, put some gravel from the driveway in with some water, lacquer thinner, soap and a handful of rusty old square nuts of various sizes, bungee cord it to the back wheel on your 8N and go for a slow drive for an hour or so. It will knock all the crap loose, the inside will be shiny an...

I think when I joined in the 70's it was $15 a year. I was making a beginning school teacher's wages. Now membership is $40 a year and I don't know what a beginning school teacher makes but I'm probably not making that. I should have bought a lifetime membership then, probably wouldn't get the good ...

We need a "like" button!! Susanne 60 years ago when I broke out roughnecking in the oil field at 17 one of the expressions those Okies and Texans brought with them was, "Make a hand or go to the house," which meant lift your share of the load, shovel your share of the mud, quit complaining about how...

And I'm still thinking a lot of people who should be members are not.

All I'm doing is reminding people it is easy and cheap to join.

Support what you use.

I've been a member for probably somewhere around 40 years and my name has never shown up in bold type.

Having noticed that the forum today has 12 members viewing and 55 guests, this is a gentle reminder that it is easy and cheap to join. Do it on line, this is the link: https://www.mtfca.com/clubpages/joinamember.htm $40 bucks a year includes the magazine and you can participate in the forum guilt fr...

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