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Dan McEachern wrote: ↑
Fri Aug 15, 2025 10:47 pm
Terry- PM sent.

Dan, I didn't receive a PM from you. Best to sent email. Terry

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A few years back, Rene posted that he was looking for a small spiral gear for a Patterson speedometer drive. I have been unable to find him in the MTFCA or MTFCI membership. If anyone knows him or his contact info, I'd like to get in touch.

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I, recently acquired a Patterson speedometer drive that uses a split two piece worm gear in the T transmission and a fiber spiral cut gear on the transmission end of the speedometer cable. The fiber gears are very often worn, broken, or even missing from the transmission drives. My drive uses a 4 to...

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Chaffins! Good folks. Yep, you missed Chaffins, or you didn't know about them. I have bought from all of them and the service has always been great. I, even, had two occasions when I had to contact a vendor about something I wasn't satisfied with. I have never been dissatisfied with the results the...

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If anyone had Les' email or if you see this Les, please email me about Patterson gears.

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I'll agree with Douglas Ogden, in his above statement. the current market, especially for black era Model T's is a buyer's market; not a seller's. In plain English, the market just "sucks" due to the current uncertainty of the economy caused by current governmental actions. Tim, I know that you have...

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The original Ford dash light (at least the one used in 26-27) used an oval shaped flange with the two mounting holes being on the left and right of the light. Most of the current offerings from the vendors use either a light with no flange and a threaded nut to secure the light to the dash, OR if it...

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I bought a complete Patterson set up. I bid on an original installation booklet for a Patterson set up. The EBAY auction for the booklet ended last night. Unfortunately, I wasn't high bidder, so if the winner of the auction is a Forum reader, please get in touch with me. If you'd copy the booklet fo...

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It may be a deck lid support arm for a pre 26 coupe or roadster, but it isn't for 26-27.

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I (and you) can only hope that the pot metal venturi is uncracked and intact. Most I see for sale are unusable without replacing the venturi which has to be custom made, because they are not available through the vendors.

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Whatever it is; the tube has been brazed, either to seal a leak or join two pieces from different tubes.

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I think there are 2 different counter balanced crank made in the day. Sure Mike's have a bad reputation, the other 1 is very durable. I don't know how to tell the difference, but I have 1 that was on a originally on a overhead stick, that I now have on a OHV. It has suffered much abuse from me, and...

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Shure-Mike: I have to wonder if the cranks got a bad reputation because People just slapped them into engines with bent pans, bad clearance etc. We have reused these crankshafts and they're still running today. We have the ability to crack detect and straighten and remachine them properly . Maybe t...

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I'm sure Western Auto sold them. I could look it up in their catalog.

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Herb Iffrig wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 04, 2025 6:33 pm
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Wouldn't you want to walk into that picture?

As messy as my shop, except I don't have the lathe and any other dealer repair tools.

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Dallas, there's a real nice, rust free TT enclosed cab down here in Texas. The only problem is it is missing the vital windshield frames. I know its a long ways from you, but I don't think you could find a better cab on the current market. Oh, Dallas, I was almost sure that you wanted an original F...

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Unlike the NASH transmission mounted speedometer drive sold for Model T's, which used more than two gears, did the Patterson drive use only two gears, one on the transmission output shaft and one on the end of the cable which was secured to the transmission inspection cover?

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If your 26 has an original motor and transmission and just needs to be replaced for some reason, my suggestion would be to use just the rebuilt 24 short block using the 26 transmission, oil pan, and head with water outlet (or at least the outlet). That way, it is a drop in replacement and there's no...

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Dang, Every Model 490 speedo I see is the early model which uses the cable that just jams up into the head and is held in place by a bracket made onto the speedo end of the cable and is held in place on the speedo head with a screw. The later production used a threaded ferrule simular to the Model ...

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Dang, Every Model 490 speedo I see is the early model which uses the cable that just jams up into the head and is held in place by a bracket made onto the speedo end of the cable and is held in place on the speedo head with a screw. The later production used a threaded ferrule simular to the Model A...

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I thought it was the late Reverend Campbell that was making the stainless Tail Pipes. Pretty sure that Brian Dowel purchased all of the remaining pipes from Doris Ann. Brian & I had discussed the possibility of me reproducing new Pipes and possibly Mufflers since I have a friend who owns a large pe...

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I know this topic has been brought many times in the past but I thought I would look for your opinions. Here in Florida it's mainly flat land in any direction. My car has a high compression Z head and was rebuilt about 14 years ago with all new Stipe touring cam and crankshaft. I also have a Ruckst...

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Put a little weight behind the rear axle and it would wheelie. Pat, I don't know how big a driver this rig would accommodate, but it looks like a big driver over 200 pounds might have a problem even sitting in it. That said, the bulk of the weight of the driver is behind the rear axle as can be see...

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i would clean the area well and then block off the lower water inlet and hook a shop vacuum to the upper water outlet ... apply vacuum and add either locktite weld porosity filler or simple super glue to the crack ... the vacuum will draw the sealer into the crack and give a very good long term sea...

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Dallas, there's a real nice, rust free TT enclosed cab down here in Texas. The only problem is it is missing the vital windshield frames. I know its a long ways from you, but I don't think you could find a better cab on the current market.

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Would the recommended gap, be the same for original 1" PT plugs, as for newer long reach 14 MM plugs used in today's high compression heads?

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My Grandfather's 27 coupe was registered through 1951. I wouldn't say he drove it daily, as he didn't have places to go on a daily basis, but he grew vegetables and sold them in a town 3 miles from where he lived. He removed the deck lid and panel below it and built and installed a wooden pickup box...

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Hmmmm, looks like I've been collecting parts for a "Sport" and didn't even know it. If I'm not mistaken, wind wings are impossible to obtain, so I'll be one option short. David, go to EBAY motors and put in vintage car wind wings for windshield. The ones listed for sale are probably not original 26...

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That is a genuine "TT" stake bed ! Looks really nice too! I totally agree it is a factory TT stake bed. I think that I am correct that all Ford factory stake beds used from the Model AA up through the early 1950's only had Ford in script on the rear crossmember. Later Ford factory stake beds in the...

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Seems like I saw a note someplace that the open cars had wood spoke wheels in 1926, and for $60 more, you could get the wire wheels like the closed cars had, wind wings, the radiator nickel plated surround, like the closed cars had and a brown canvas top. The sport model, according to Bruce, includ...

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Seems like I saw a note someplace that the open cars had wood spoke wheels in 1926, and for $60 more, you could get the wire wheels like the closed cars had, wind wings, the radiator nickel plated surround, like the closed cars had and a brown canvas top. According to Floyd Clymer's reprint of the ...

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Brian, I haven't seen those for sale for a long time. I purchased mine maybe 20 years ago, still in the car, looking New as when I put it on. Stainless steel was the best pic at the time. Yes, the stainless muffler with short tailpipe, and the stainless exhaust pipe have been out of production for ...

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My understanding, over the last SIXTY years that I have been working with 26-27 improved T's, is that the open cars came in TWO models, STANDARD and DELUXE (or SPORT models). This is verified in both of the late Bruce McCalley's books. The standard models had black radiator shells and headlight rims...

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I've resorted to Hartford tubes, which have held up well. I get them with rubber stems for the lower price and install my own metal stems. Yes, they're made in China, and the quality is OK. People are equally smart everywhere, and any country can make good stuff if enough customers want it. Steve, ...

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DanTreace wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 27, 2025 9:07 am
Looks more like a “clown car” masquerading as a racer

I have to agree, DAN, the narrowed axles would decrease stability, especially on turns, but even with a stock engine, can you imagine how fast this thing would go? With some speed equipment, this thing would be a death trap.

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20250726_103512.jpg I found this on local Facebook. I have NO connection with the seller or the sale of this car. Car is on shortened frame with narrowed front and rear axles. Radiator shell says DE SOTO on it. If interested in more pictures, email me and I'll send them by text to you. attachment] ...

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I've disassembled and reassembled several 26-27 rear springs, both 8 and 9 leaf. All have had a square head like the last picture posted; no dome like the one that you posted.

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A member of the San Antonio club, who is a forum member, told me that he had a black T radiator, re-cored by a shop here in San Antonio, a decade or two ago, and that although it was flat tube (as I recall), the shop even put the heavy steel bar between the tubes in the lower part of the radiator be...

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George House wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 20, 2025 9:56 am
Oh, OK … I thought it was one of those newly popular garage saunas….

Winner-winner; Chicken Dinner. Your post takes first place. And I was thinking it was one of those in garage storm shelters like people living in tornado alley use.

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1925 Touring wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 19, 2025 6:48 pm
For those of us who aren't familiar, what will this machine be doing?

" Inquiring Minds Want to know ". Is it closer to a 3D printer, or a CNC controlled mill- lathe- whatever?

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Thanks for the replies, but no one, yet, has mentioned anything about the difference between Model T and Model A cans. I think I remember something about the cans with Ford script and the capital letter " E " being a Model A can, or am I wrong? Also, some cans had a large Ford script and some had th...

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Looking at Ford script hand oiler cans, how can on tell a T era can from a Model A era can? How can one tell an original T can from a reproduction T can, as I know they used to be reproduced (I have one)?

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This was brought up on the Forum, recently, by Brent Terry of Tennessee. He was trying to find one on short notice and contacted vendors (I don't know which ones) and all were out. My guess is that something has slowed production in England. If and when they are available again, expect a higher pric...

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It always amuses me how auctioneers and other uneducated people throw around the term, "Barn Find ", as vanderbrink did in the title of this auction. If all these items, or even just those on wheels that could roll, were found in a barn, that barn would have to be the size of an aircraft manufacturi...

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TXGOAT2 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 12, 2025 11:03 am
12 volt battery, lights, and starter.

Good answer.

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I'm curious who Joe Morris is, since no one has answered you.

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David, email works for me. I sent you an email.

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Here are some links to previous discussions to add to some confusion Dave Sosnoski researching handles https://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/331880/380222.html?1376315418 Differences https://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/179374/182212.html?1294896310 Regulator for 1926 to 1931 https://www.mtfca.com...

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Due to the unavailable reproductions of 26-27 enclosed car window crank handles, I, like everyone else, has had to resort to using the reproduction Model A handle that tightens with a set screw on the regulator shaft. I have seen window crank handle that reportedly are original Model T, but the hand...

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Brent, i don't have a brass car, now, but decades ago, had a 13. Finding a small acetylene tank to put inside a gutted carbide generator, might be tough, if not impossible. Since you don't have the Prest-o-lite tank and brackets, and since this setup is not going to be permanent, maybe you could get...

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David, I've got so many of the left side stands, license brackets and tail lights, I'd send you a set with you paying shipping, but my parts are in storage 280 miles away, round trip, and my wife got out of the hospital from being treated for high blood pressure and is on new medication and is very ...

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Ford did offer right side mounting brackets. Our Canadian cars all have them, along with the license plate bracket. I have a pair on my 27 LHD tudor now. Allan from down under. I stand corrected, Allan. I wasn't thinking about Canadian or exported cars because, more than likely, he doesn't have one...

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David, if the standard tail light is what you desire, and you already have the complete left side assembly (fender to license plate bracket, and license plate/tail light assembly), then all you need is the aftermarket right side, fender to light bracket and another light assembly. If a license plate...

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Tail light, or the accessory C.M Hall manufactured drum Stop light? If you're talking about the standard issue Tail light, they are plentiful but the license plate bracket is not removable from the mounting base for the light, and Ford never offered a fender to light stand for the right hand side be...

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Chris Haynes wrote: ↑
Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:51 pm
Howell's sold me a unusable piece of crap.

Howell's isn't the only one. Some members on this forum have done the same to me.

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Mike used to buy and part out a lot of Model T's, selling mostly on EBAY. I haven't seen him selling anything for a least a year, maybe more. I bought a lot of parts from him including a nice set of 26-27 front fenders, a set of 26-27 rear sedan fenders, a set of 26-27 coupe/roadster fenders, and a ...

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I'm sure its still the same company, just trying to change their image by changing their company name. I do know that they go by a different name on EBAY. I know their reputation has flaws, but say what you want; there aren't many (if any) companies making the products that they make, and if the own...

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Henry K. Lee wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:00 pm
Sent the memo to my cousin One Hung Low and he is on it! He says....,"Capitalist B@sT@rds want everything perfect".

Won Hung Low also said, " Not to mention your Supreme Leader is trying to screw us China men with high tariffs."

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I've got a new, never installed one that I bought from CHAFFINS. Paid $439.95 plus shipping for it. Will sell for same price, but the shipping is on your DIME.

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Someone needs to reproduce a TT enclosed cab W.S. frame. I know of a cab for sale that is rust free, but it is missing the frame, otherwise I'd buy it.

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TXGOAT2 wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 19, 2025 4:53 pm
But.... are you in an EPA NAA?

Pat, Harris County does have stricter emissions standards, but I was just joking with Ignacio.

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Ignacio, haven't you read or heard, the state of Texas is dropping the requirements of annual state inspections so a PVC valve or a catalytic converter is no longer necessary

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Because the 26-27 fordor body was a hold over from previous years and the windshield frame is completely different, I would be skeptical that coupe and tudor bodies have the same windshield structure. I have a 27 coupe and a 26 fordor, but the fordor was restored when I acquired it.

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Mr. Larry Smith, didn't earn the nickname, "Original Smith", for 'grins'. He earned it because his restorations are correct as close to leaving the factory as possible. If he has a 1913 T or any pre-1919 T, you can bet it doesn't have a starter. For Larry to do so, would be a travesty and an abomina...

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Chris notified me that he had found a pair.

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Steve contact me ASAP if you still need a header flange for standard, non-OHV motor. Terry Woods

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Chris, Do you still need a pair of 26-27 hood shelves? I'm going to my parts storage, tomorrow and can bring a pair or two, back. Let me know, ASAP.

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I think it was right after the lunch hour.

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Anyone got a Kevin Prus aluminum head that they are not using? New or good used? Maybe you sold your car after buying the head, or went a different direction after buying. I could buy new direct from Kevin, but I thought I would do some "fishing" on the Forum, first.

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I saw the same article on Massachusetts. It stated that the bright pure white light that LED bulbs produce, tend to blind oncoming traffic, more that the 'yellow' light that halogen bulbs, produce. That was their reasoning. I may be mistaken, but I though the article mentioned it might become a fede...

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I can't get 'paint' on my computer to reduce the size. Post a cell contact number, spelling the numbers, out and I'll send it by text.

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I have an APCO that I'd sell.

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A long time club member from California, known for having a pretty good performing speedster, recommended Champion RN 10YC to RN 16YC plugs. He said use the coldest plug that won't foul. If you have a cylinder or cylinders that are letting oil past the rings, use the hottest plug. 10YC is the coldes...

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Another U.S. based supplier to try is Dixie Flag and Banner in San Antonio, Texas. I have no connection with them, nor have I ever knowingly used any of their products. They make all of their flags, in house, except for the small ones you are wanting. Their biggest U.S. flags will cover a football f...

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pdgriesse wrote: ↑
Fri Jun 06, 2025 9:28 am
Means Garage---Dunnegan. Mo. has them. 417-754-8627

Yeah, If Means doesn't have what you need, it probably isn't available. 417-754-8637

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This is another possibility:

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Forum Members, who was the manufacturer of the head shown in the above post that has: "VTH-1000-H and 20-27" beneath it? It doesn't appear to be a Reeder head. The combustion chamber is deeper. My Reeder head has a flat combustion chamber, much like a Prus head.

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Bill, Can you post an additional picture showing the combustion chambers?

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Ha, Ha, Dallas. Seriously, the roadster pickup is a black era T. The baby is a brass era T. Who was the other parent? it must have been a brass era T with stronger genes, or else one of your T's was having an "affair". and cheating on the other one.

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Another thing to consider when using a nylon gear is that most, of not all, nylon gears must use a thinner camshaft timing gear nut to avoid the nut shorting the timer from the timer roller touching it. I think both Lang's and Snyder's include this nut with their nylon gears.

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I have a Reeder low head. Its not for sale but I would trade even for a Reeder high head in equal, good usable condition. Any interest or takers?

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Put the Rux shifter on the left, next to the parking brake. The warford's stick can be bent for your maximum convince. I agree with John. Now that left handed Ruxtell shifters are on the market, it would eliminate one shifter stick from the middle that you have to maneuver around. Back when I had m...

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Will, Why not run the Warford and the Ruckstell? Depending on what you are going to use it for, having more gears can be a real advantage. I have 1 T with a Muncie and standard rear, 1 with just a Ruckstell and 1 with a KC Warford and Ruckstell, I love having both but if I could only have 1 it woul...

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As the above posted Layne instructions show and state, the drive shaft and tube must be shortened and rewelded to remove 12 inches, if I'm not mistaken, and the rear radius rods must be shortened and rewelded the appropriate, stated amount. I'm not sure if the Layne instructions specify that a cross...

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I don't know if you have only been looking locally, within 500 miles of your location, on Facebook, but in other parts of the U.S. I have seen some 'deals' on Model T's within the last year. I suspect you have been searching locally so that shipping wouldn't be an expense to add to the purchase of a...

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I'll admit Bill and Jim are very reputable and trusted shippers, but I have used two others, very successfully and a bit more economically. One was a company called California Jaguar. They primarily had trucks running between California and Florida, a southern route. They hauled a 26-27 pickup bed f...

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There surely is more than one DAVID HOWELL in the U.S., so this information is about as useful as finding a needle in a haystack. If my memory serves me correctly, there was a DAVID HOWELL associated with HOWELL'S SHEET METAL. The business started out in Houston, TX in the late 1960's, before moving...

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Yes, there was a speedometer drive offered under the brand name of NASH, NOT to be confused with NASH, the brand of automobile. The NASH speedometer drive added a gear inside the main drive of the transmission, and another gear held against it by the transmission inspection cover. They are probably ...

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RajoRacer wrote: ↑
Sat May 17, 2025 2:45 pm
The "Black Book" IS the Model T Bible !

Steve, are you referring to the "Ford Service" manual, which Ford sold in hardback form? It has been reprinted with a black cover, but in softback form. Back in the 1960's, when I bought my first softback, it had a green cover.

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I am new to the Model T community but not to early cars. I am in the process of reassembling my 1912 engine and looking for tips on reassembly for such info as torques, avoiding oil leaks etc. I can't find such info in the club restoration videos or the club utube channel. Am I missing something? I...

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Last night, I 'googled' "pin striping in my area". I came up with a company here in San Antonio whose artist does striping with paint, not vinyl tape, and air brush and has been doing it since 1994. He trained under a well known car stripper on the west coast. For $150.00, he will come to my locati...

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Shannon_in_Texas wrote: ↑
Wed May 14, 2025 3:58 pm
Stripper or striper? They're not the same, you know!

I didn't check the spelling, Shannon.

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Last night, I 'googled' "pin striping in my area". I came up with a company here in San Antonio whose artist does striping with paint, not vinyl tape, and air brush and has been doing it since 1994. He trained under a well known car stripper on the west coast. For $150.00, he will come to my locatio...

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Where you ya'll mount these? I see where Steve mounted his. I have one that doesn't mount on the firewall; it mounts to any head bolt that you want to secure it to. I haven't used it yet, but I have two concerns with mounting to the engine: #1 will the heat from the engine be detrimental to the oil...

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When people start discussing colors by name, I like to point out that a particular color may have several names. What Ford called Medium Cream may have been called something else by another company. Color matching can be done by spectrograph from a sample, without reference to any name. For that, t...

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Thanks, Dan, for posting the color chart. I'll order the paint from the supplier connected with the chart. I'll be having a professional do the striping. My hand isn't steady enough unless I used a tape template that pealed away where you wanted the strip to go,

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Yes, Mike, I have known for decades that One shot was a paint used by many painters and stripers. In fact, just before I posted on the Forum, I had "googled", One Shot. I didn't come up with a complete color chart, or list of colors, though. I wish that I could at least come up with a list of dealer...

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Can anyone refer me to a source for Medium Cream pin stripping paint, as used by Ford on 1926-27 enclosed cars?

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