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Universal Welding Company, St. Anne, IL Wheel photos posted show a bit different style, Maybe Universal Welding did a later design change to the wheel lug mounts? Or?? Universal Hubs were used to mount different wire wheels without lugs? As those hubs are missing lugs and just have bolt heads to co...

Pressed steel so not Ford, and blades are too short without offset. Don’t know make.

The Prus head is still the best one to use for performance, have used both, and prefer the Prus. The chambers are CNC matched machined, the Z is as cast. The Prus is also pressure sealed like modern alum heads to resist material corrosion. Did my garage cc'd method, and the Z had 250cc chamber, and...

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What is Dennis Fleming contact information?

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Several can be found on-line, obvious from the 30's or so, as a promotional by Firestone. Perhaps sold or maybe just image items that Firestone dealers kept in their store fronts. Lid recess held matches. Also you can find rubber ash trays with the glass tray molded within a Firestone tire, only min...

James IMO search for better clincher rims, that rim has too sharp clincher bead and will cut a new tire quickly. This is a new tire ruined by sharp clincher bead. IMG_3466 (1280x960) (620x465).jpg This clincher rim is rusted too much, flaky rust in the rim, and the clincher bead rusted away to knif...

These noted photos may help.

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Early model 1926 pickup illustrated with Ford adv., note the front stake pocket is at the very front of the bed,
a change was made later to move pocket back about 7".

been an issue for some time, If I keep my speed no faster than 35mph the engine runs at normal temp. If I push the engine to 40mph it wants to run warm. The moto meter will be full red. As soon as I back down the speed she cools back down and the moto meter runs in the right range. Have experienced...

Believe the smooth back is very early, this is factory photo to show the bed and deck removed. Don't know if any date can be determined, had a very early '26 runabout pickup, serial in Nov. 1925 and it had the raised panel. IMG_9388 (2).jpg And most have the raised panel on the back of the bucket. I...

The measure seems should work, about an inch above the boards, as you measured the highest point of the curved crossmember. The hump plate shouldn't be flat, it should have a bit of a curve or crown shape to accommodate the very top of the crossmember. The clearance is only very small, sometimes the...

This one is a more common accessory oil filler.

And a couple more on this older post : https://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/1 ... 19805.html

Thought so too, the OP on that tool group found it at a garage sale, in Melbourne Australia of all places!

Forget the tap dance

Old timer mechanics just used a screwdriver to stir debris deep in the bolt hole, and remove that metallic stuff with a Ford magnet against the shank.

Saw this tool on a FB Vintage Tool I.D. Group, was unidentified by the poster. So looked up the tool in a Stevens Speed Up Catalog. Rather useful to have when one-man replacing rivets, makes a real good bucking bar. IMG_0357.jpeg IMG_0358.jpeg IMG_0356.jpeg Would have liked that tool for last job on...

Yes on re-using head bolts that check out in great shape, inspect threads carefully. Just be aware new reproduction of the dome nickel 26-27 style are modern thread type and a tad shorter in length. If the block threads are super good, the repro work, if block threads at the grip range are poor, tho...

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Correct would be the side adjusting screw.

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And the side version has the correct post, which is tapered on each side.

Dan, I believe the plugs are located over the pistons, causing the flame path to direct combustion pressure towards the valves, and not towards the piston, where it can do the most good. Jerry Yes, was mistaken as been years ago, here is pic off eBay site showing plug over piston, and weird flame g...

The shiny painted carrier is the ‘25 version for the split rim 21” tires. Note shorter top arms.

The pitted is ‘24-‘25 version for clincher rim 30” tires.

Ran a Lizard head when first came out, had to use wire rope on a power drill to whip around in the water jackets, lots of sand and crud came out. The spark plugs are located over the valves , *** correction “over the pistons “ messed with advance lever but still lots of pings from poor combustion. S...

Dan, so there is a cap on the stems that are then covered by the dust covers? Learning more every day… Yes, a dust cap covers the metal stem. The valve cap seals the stem to prevent water intrusion to the valve inside the stem. The dust cap covers all to keep dirt off. Dust cap screws onto the rim ...

Note seal inside the valve cap.

Here's some pics of the pieces in that envelope. The cap would be a valve cap. The cap washer is a tiny usually red rubber ring inside the valve cap to assure good seal of the cap. The valve 'insides' are of course the stem of the valve that holds the pressure intact after air fill. Those can go ba...

If the original owner used a wood frame, that could be the cause. Or put plywood over the spring? Or stuffed the spring coils with upholstery foam, some may do that for extra support to worn coil springs. The '26-'27 front cushion is only the spring frame, covered with the upholstery. The cushion th...

As posted above, no carrier on a 1917 frame, as demountable rims weren't available yet. So most times a spare tire was strapped to the running board, some mfg. supplied brackets even for the rear mounted to the spring clip. Only the late '19 frame had holes for the tire carrier. You could drill hole...

From floor mat to leading rear edge in the ‘27 touring, it’s 12 1/2”

Also have added by upholstery shop added cushion as we tour lots and seat spring cushion is the only shock absorber on the T! Only 5’ 7” so top up no issues ever.

Been a while, but do remember the early '26 (Nov '25 serial) runabout body I restored used the 3 hole mount. Believe that the 4 hole mount came along later, as there are later runabouts with the 4 hole mount. Parts and Price books are unclear for the 2872, the factory # is 7317A for this runabout a...

Here is older post showing coupe and open car metal risers. The ‘25 open car risers have tabs to secure the kick panel, earlier metal risers the kick cardboard panel is shaped to the curve by tacks to the wood framing. IMG_0673.jpeg Order posts shows types: https://share.google/UYhmO246sxXE3RWKx

The repro modern fan pulley with split and set screw fastener is the best method, plus it is flanged to keep the flat fan belt in place. Lots of nice features, as the set screw tightens the pulley on a worn crankshaft. And use the pin too for the crank handle ratchet to bite on. Be sure to allow ro...

I'd guess a lot of pickup beds were put on roadsters already sold. Agree, that's why sometimes one finds a NOS '26-'27 turtle deck.....dealer take off to install the pickup bed! Hershey a few years ago...... IMG_9042 (700x525).jpg Still has the anti-squeak strip IMG_9043.JPG IMG_9041 (500x375).jpg ...

This is close up of the Sprague drag link spring loaded piece on the pitman arm.

FYI, Dennis Fleming has a center door with this accessory steering gear, have seen the car in his T barn.

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Or you can use an APCO spring loaded cap to take up wear too.

Older post on Sprague units. Photos of one installed, post has links to other posts from 2012, lots of pics there too. Said to have 2 1/2 turns of the steering wheel, lock to lock. Drag link is a model T factory part. Edit, oops, there was a special rod! https://share.google/3nl11EmMkYnSVz1S2

First look at that photo , thought I was seeing an old plastic model of a T spread apart ready to glue it up!

Used to build a bunch of car models.

Photo # 4, same owner and Torpedo pictured in Floyd Clymer’s “Henry’s Wonderful Model T”.

Can only suggest to use cloth covered wiring of that gauge, and ring terminals, like Ford used on wiring harness to wiring block on firewall. Color might be cool, but black is nice too. This pic shows black wire laced in the magneto coil frame holes, looks factory that way. Ford unit made 1920, so w...

The Club's Museum Shop sells for $38 the complete HCCT Book, with all info and wiring diagrams, would be first choice when restoring one.

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Of course the correct is the original type of combination ring and bridge washer. The ring preforms the pressure around the base of the stem to prevent leakage. With modern new metal stem tubes, the stem is already vulcanized to the tube, so the ring is insignificant, the repro flat bridge washer d...

The T-6509X headlamp bracket conical washer should fit the radius of the T-6517X '26-'27 headlamp tie rod and bracket. Here are the mounting pieces. The conical washer goes under the bracket to allow the swivel action. Don’t heavily paint as the lamp needs ground thru the bracket to the fender and t...

IMO, don't think that can work to stuff a 23" dia flap and the smaller 23” tube in the 30x3 tire casing that is made to fit 24" clincher rim. 30 x 3 1/2 clincher tires and tubes and flaps go on the 23” rim. Got these from Coker, right size 24” dia. 30x3 brass stem tube, and proper 24" flap to go int...

So, plugs removed, lever in high, possibly a cap oil down on top of the cylinders, and drive slow. I'm guessing that the accessory screen oil filter helps in this situation just like in normal driving. That is the Ford Service Bulletin, 1920, recommendation too, with some added oil to have the brak...

6 to 8 volts DC only.

That's the biggest Klaxon, for a real loud sound, your T will ahooga like a Packard . A deck mount was made for that model for ships too.

Don't remember the slotted screw, but could be. As for the curtain hooks, Lang's sells new ones, and they have square holes. The Parts Listing by Bruce Mc's CD encyl. lists 2 part numbers, T-7831 for 23-25 Curtain Hook on windshield bracket, and T-7832 Curtain hook on body, 15-27. But no pics of sa...

Brent Some factory and period photos of the clip under the single slot round head machine screw, the curtain hook has a round hole, so that bolt didn't have a square under the head. Clip holds side curtains or the wind wing curtain. Ford_Motor_Co_Stills_04_StoneMountain copy.jpg Image 10-22-24 at 6...

For the ultimate in Ford free-wheeling in 'neutral' just install this amazing device. Claimed aid in driving satisfaction and saving on gas too! Free wheeling clutch04738.jpeg Free wheeling clutch.jpeg IMG_8200.jpeg Do away with the old sticky Ford discs in that clutch drum! 100_8924 (800x600).jpg

Evidently the rollers were made out of wood and swelled upAny one know much about this type of timer? The rollers were made of fiber, over time in wet conditions, as the timer is so rusted, those compressed composite fiber rollers delaminated to look like splintered wood. From the adv. in the Acc. ...

That timer is the Fan Steel brand, 1923.

Here is the instruction of the 1st style or early '26 fan with the worm like drive eccentric using a special bolt from the Service Bulletins to help. Have only experience with the later '26 fan and easy wrench adj. smooth eccentric. IMG_0531.jpeg IMG_0532.jpeg early 26type fan.jpeg 1926FanAssemblyEa...

Been following this thread to the end, just can’t help but post this earlier thread on towing disasters to the T motor, the pictures will convince you such flat towing on all fours with a stock T , with or without the engine running, isn’t without risk of damage. https://share.google/65bnrmv3GcsUuD...

Have used the taper wedge block method in the past. IMG_2164 (509x518) (491x500).jpg But years ago got a custom made spreader from a retired guy who made some very nice Model T tools and replacement parts, spreader has sliding tubing over a large threaded rod to expand and contract the tubing on ea...

Been closed to visits, but very responsive to email inquiries, and to mail. Have most recently used printed request form to get emailed pdf of Record of Changes, all you need is factory number and pay small fee via check or credit card. IMG_0489.jpeg Most recently, info on clutch discs Image 8-19-25...

That one is the Model 20, made in versions for big cars, cycles and boats.

The best length of the projector and horn body that helps to fit under the hood, is found on the small Klaxon 6, that is the Ford T size.

Have yet to run across that style in any period adv. Perhaps some aftermarket co. made, but odd with using Ford band ear forging marked. Perhaps Ford made these as attempt at a demountable band and gave up? Seems a few sets have appeared. As Trent posted on the earlier thread, likely experimental F...

Would try to remove metal at the mounting points or add washers if space is too wide. The shoes just need to contact the drum surface without striking the wood spokes. The modern cast irons aren't normally a malleable iron, so heating will cause cracking and breakage, had that happen on a Ford cast...

Std. Ford bar for the swivel bracket headlamps on my '27 measures .680" dia.

The photo dated 2013 is an accessory bar made by Marquette for the pad mount headlamps.

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Put two partial restrictive crimps in the copper line, using blunt clamp end Vice-Grips , to slow oil flow.

Stopped the excessive fouling of #1 plug.

Could be the cam is so worn it cannot expand the shoe to grip inside the drum or the bushing of the cam is worn and won't let the cam fully lift. Replace cam bushing and the cam. An old time fix is a sleeve to go over the cam. Have used these sleeves avail from Lang's and it works ok, needs a littl...

Here are some:

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Original Ford board

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Reproduction

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Best to use Snyder's as they can make any coil spring set for you. Just provide dimensions of the overall coil spring base you need, be sure to note for seat cushion use, as they use stiffer coils. I got a custom backrest spring for my aftermarket T touring body, was made very well. new backrest sp...

Only thing that can concern is if the collar is grooved too deep or oblong from a loose thrust steel plate, might let a plate wiggle more if only the one factory pin.

Start with a semi used up repro '09 runabout w/mother in law seat. (June 2006) Add frame and pieces, from all years, modify or clone for early look, found parts at swap meets and eBay..... Body on frame, then insert the engine. Add repro fenders and aprons. Final bling (windshield and radiator and ...

I have not seen non D steel fellows on non starter T's. I did see an original, non messed with 26 electric delete roadster. It had 30x3 & 30x3.5" wood fellow wheels. Is there evidence (pictorial or otherwise) of steel fellow, non demountable wheels coming on a T from the factory? Scroll to my photo...

33,000+. Non-Starter Runabouts sold in 1925. Likely some sold as pickups or converted by dealers on owners request for the bed instead of deck. Also, would think late non-demountable clincher wheels would be the all steel felloe 30 x 3 and 30 x 3 1/2 versions instead of the wood square felloe. IMG_0...

The Optima red top, 6v or 12v pictured is absorbent glass mat battery, or AGM. The lead plates sandwiched in the glass mat, and sealed in cylinders to contain the electrolyte. Mount in any position, and no evaporation or adding of water as with a std. lead acid car battery. Gel cells differ as the e...

Here is info from the CDs. JAN 9, 1912 Acc. 575, Letter 263 T-520 starting crank handle. “Replaced knurling on handle with ridges and grooves. Changed material from hard rubber to aluminum and specified the handle to be black enamel.” FEB 1, 1912 5 Acc. 575, Factory Letter 276 T-520 starting crank h...

#131 was formerly in Harrahs collection, likely restored to very high standards, would believe “correct” as money could make, absent the white rubber mat, carpet protector now. ;) #131 at Concoures DE Elegance car show in Palos Verdes, CA, 2008. Had white front floor mat then, along with a red paint...

Photos show those 5 lug rims to be for straight sided tires, as they are 'split rims'.

Likely for a larger car with wood demountable wheels.

Got the stainless one from Lang’s or Speedway Motors, shaft is 1 1/2” from right angle. Was bit long for 26-27 open car windshield frame, so added rubber washers. Might fit your closed car as is.

George Short answer, not computerize to this time of any records of such volume of changes of the Model T during its production life. Very much doubt that info will ever be, as the records are microfiche files at Benson. The best source to date is to obtain the set of 2 CD's made by Bruce McCalley. ...

Have always added thin metal steel sheeting under the #1 and #2 floorboards on the passenger side over the curving up exhaust pipe to the manifold. Have seen quite a few charred boards in old Ts :shock: A reminder of what did happen! By Bill Saitta on Sunday, March 31, 2013 - 07:02 pm: We were on t...

Pieces of used '24 top covering, the body and the rear curtain used to mount on the '23.

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Finished top job.

Eric Those pair of rear straps from the back bow to the tub wood trim strip are wider than 2", and are made of several pieces of fabric with sewn edges. Reason is a lot of stress on those, as the top is erected, and when folded. (1926 pictured) DCP_2536.JPG DCP_2535.JPG DCP_2532.JPG On my '23 cut-d...

Lang's has that flat trim. Might call to see if this flat has the 1/4" overhang, on both sides, isn't clear in the description or photo. Image 11-14-25 at 2.45 PM.jpeg Did get some oval trim from Restoration Supply to put on the faux '12 firewall. Has lips on both sides to hide the wood edges of the...

Here is link to a USA qualifier rebuilder of new wood wheels. http://www.calimerswheelshop.com/ Lots of info on the links in the homepage, videos too. But first read the Frequently Asked Questions link, reasons given why adding a few new spokes to old used wood felloe wheels isn’t the way to go. Hav...

Here is link:

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I like the idea of being able to have a little plastic engine that functions a little bit for demonstration purposes. So did I, a forum thread began in 2011 about a model T engine model, was really neat.....but the mfg didn't ever bring them to market, checking recently the original company is now ...

Thickness is important too, to prevent lens rattle, the modern nylon cord on left is smaller, the larger cotton cord (like clothes line) with more twists is better.

Originals used a type of black tar like adhesive on the cord seal......

Some adv from FordOwner mag, 1918, compliments of Google Books search.

The side body bolt appeared more or less in around the spring of 1915. Depending on the body supplier, as that bolt is for the metal seat frame. It is a typical feature of later 1915- 1921 or thereabouts touring bodies, the earlier touring bodies had wood seat frames. Data from Club Encyclopedia Fis...

Seems to be Goodyear clincher cord tires from the 1920s.

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Dan Can you take a close up photo of both the throttle and timer pull levers on column on the garbage can. I am trying to determine the approximate length/ relationship of the two levers and the hole center to center of both pull levers. Ron P Clarity please. Do you mean the 3525 spark rod and 3524...

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No jewels! But didn’t look at the adv piece before posting, there wasn’t a fabric strap, but a chain in the pulley. The end of the chain had a clamp to latch over the top iron and pull the stack of irons tight to prevent rattles. Replaced the leather belt like strap.

Accessory adjustable top bow fastener, missing a chain that fits in the pulley behind the knob.

Cranking knob pulls extended chain around top bow stack to retain preventing rattling.

Edited…, to note chain used in the pulley crank.

Here ya go…,

Took these as replacing shaft and re bushing frame bracket on the 27 column. Used for ref to show position of the tiny lever and spark rod on retard.

Believe so, however the fender iron rod is unique to the pickup bed.

Here is one method, with real Ford parts, used with rear fenders that have the normal clip and bolt underside to latch onto the fender iron. Salvage the brackets from a touring rear metal supports, add the threaded rods and then bolt to the wood bed side or hack panel. IMG_4293 (1024x543).jpg IMG_42...

T-48815 is part number of the '26-'27 Housing (rear cross member) as noted in the Price List of Body Parts book.

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Lang's used to sell that part as Lang's # PBEDAD, but no longer avail, these were made by Howells a few years ago.

Here's a really old time tire, with red tube, cut away to show flaps used in the T period. IMG_1748.jpeg Use flaps too, they help prolong tire life and resist tube fails, IMO Have always using rubber stems, the rubber stems hold up. For dress, add the faux dust cover that affix to the rubber stem va...

Wishbone ball when new is 1 1/4" spherical ball. They wear, so shims are sold to help, but don't work on an oblong ball. Best is a nice round ball, and a new cap. Then the springs on the cap (grease the ball and cap) can assist holding the wishbone snugly, but with the slight rotation needed for the...

Story heard, if true, this horse carriage child hearse, sold, and # 22 motor was found mounted in the early T chassis the hearse was fitted. Here is that # 22 at Chickasha , 2012, on a run-in stand, was fired up a few times. Pretty neat! IMG_6709 (800x600) (740x555) (720x540).jpg IMG_6712 (720x540) ...

I’m trying to adjust my horn, it has stopped blowing. In the past, a simple turning of the screw in the rear , would bring it back. Double check power and ground. Could be battery voltage too low. The insides are most the same for motor horns, you may have to oil some spots; or clean the armature w...

The sketch of the rim removal tool by the OP is the same one in the Ford Service Bulletin. Have found the version avail from Lang's works well. This tool engages two of the rivets, and the groove ends, to provide a stop for being able to push in very firmly to compress the strong wire spring behind...

Typical types of "Fat Man" wheels, many ones made for the T, some with key locking too.

A whole bunch collected by someone!

Just before I take it all apart, do you mind if I just check that the thread of the tie-rod bolts is 7/16"UNC? That tie rod or connecting rod bolt and nut are 7/16" / 20 thread. Fine thread. The tie rod bolt with oiler top, is 7/16" / 20 x 2 1/4" length. Most all cotter pinned bolts are Fine thread...

You'd need an accurate drill guide, no matter how you do it. Used the cyl head as guide as the drill size fits the bolt hole. Just measure very closely to be sure the long drill won’t cut into the water jackets. Drill straight carefully with depth indicator on the drill bit. In this fix, measured d...

Old 24/27 gas caps may not be a bargain. Obtained this one with one ear gone, thought ok still can work. But after purchase found that the old zinc metal had swelled at the threads and someone must have used a flat file to reduce diameter. Problem is that flattened the threads so won’t fit at all. M...

My clutch was kinda slipping a bit, so I decided to adjust the clutch fingers, the gap between the collar and the plate is supposed to be 13/16 the gap was much larger, I put the gap to said measurement That measure is for new rebuild with new or tested clutch spring ....... For clutch slipping, yo...

The picture of the red Optima 6 volt battery shows the positive cable connection to the positive terminal of the battery... What is the problem with having a insulated 1/0 or 2/0 size negative cable?.... It's the size of the cable that counts! I agree!! In fact that Optima is in the running board b...

what is the value if a "woven" battery ground cable? From a mfg. source: Ground straps are braided by interlacing multiple strands of flexible wire. Braiding creates a structure that is thicker and stronger than non-interlaced wires and that will resist twisting under load. Compared to a battery ca...

A nylon washer will wear fast, use steel or bronze, and replace that nylon lock nut with correct castle nut and cotter pin. Steering has to be safe. Factory style repro spindle connecting rod bolt, with flip top oiler, inside the arm is a repro spindle arm steel bushing, and correct castle nut with ...

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