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by Trentb
Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:23 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: 1907 - 1909 Ford Model T prototype, courtesy of Trent B.
Replies: 16
Views: 1920

Re: 1907 - 1909 Ford Model T prototype, courtesy of Trent B.

The Prototype Control system did not use a reverse lever, like the later two-lever, two-pedal cars did. Instead, the two levers on the prototypes were for 1) the rear hub brake (just like all the production Model Ts did), and 2) for neutral/high gear. Pulling this second lever back put the car in ne...
by Trentb
Sun May 31, 2020 9:15 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: 1907 - 1909 Ford Model T prototype, courtesy of Trent B.
Replies: 16
Views: 1920

Re: 1907 - 1909 Ford Model T prototype, courtesy of Trent B.

Jerry,

I wish you could have been there. After all, part of this story is yours. I would love to hear about how you got the removable cylinder head motor to Piquette.

Respectfully Submitted,

Trent Boggess
by Trentb
Wed May 27, 2020 8:10 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: FJ - Nothing To See Here - Move Along Now
Replies: 55
Views: 6108

Re: FJ - Nothing To See Here - Move Along Now

Been there, seen that. A rare privilege.

Respectfully submitted,

Trent Boggess
by Trentb
Sat May 16, 2020 12:19 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Valves, springs, guides and tappets - Speedster
Replies: 20
Views: 1335

Re: Valves, springs, guides and tappets - Speedster

Regarding valve seats: Have you ever had the opportunity to look over a stripped NOS cylinder block? I have, and I was surprised by the valve seats. In a new block it almost looks as if there is no valve seat at all. If you look closely at the seats you can barely see a very narrow seat. The ones I ...
by Trentb
Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:20 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: 1914 Stynoski Runabout
Replies: 9
Views: 1550

Re: 1914 Stynoski Runabout

I was part of a judging team that judged cars in this class at the MTFCI National Meet in 1998. Stynoski cars were judged in their respective classes as well as the special Stnyoski class. Honestly, the pictures do not do the car justice. To really appreciate this car you need to be with one foot of...
by Trentb
Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:05 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: RIP
Replies: 6
Views: 1525

Re: RIP

Ed was a good friend, who was also interested in NRS Fords.

We are diminished.

Respectfully submitted,

Trent Boggess
by Trentb
Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:19 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Graffiti on model T cars
Replies: 21
Views: 2693

Re: Graffiti on model T cars

Historically speaking, these were referred to as “Lizzy Labels”.

Respectfully submitted,

Trent Boggess
by Trentb
Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:21 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Ford history questions
Replies: 60
Views: 5307

Re: Ford history questions

1908 was the first year Model Ts were produced without a driver side door.

A more useful question is what was the first year in which Model Ts came with driver side doors. The answer to that is the 1911 enclosed runabout, aka torpedo.

Respectfully submitted,

Trent Boggess
by Trentb
Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:22 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: 1909 frame evolution and build sheets
Replies: 26
Views: 2911

Re: 1909 frame evolution and build sheets

The fish plate frames were used on the first 2500 cars. They were required because the frame steel used was only 1/8” steel (the same as used on Model NRS frames). After the first 2500 cars the frames were built using a thicker grade of steel. Most early frames (am tempted to say all, but don’t have...
by Trentb
Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:19 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: ”Any customer can have a car painted any colour that he wants so long as it is black.”
Replies: 21
Views: 2522

Re: ”Any customer can have a car painted any colour that he wants so long as it is black.”

Just to be clear, the quote “ The customer can have any color he wants so long as it is black.” is from the book “My Life and Work” by Henry Ford with Samuel Crowther. Please take note of Mr. Crowther’s role in this book. In 1922 Mr. Crowther approached the Ford Motor Company about writing a book wi...
by Trentb
Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:46 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Trying to reach Trent Boggess
Replies: 1
Views: 431

Re: Trying to reach Trent Boggess

Hi Fred,

Nothing has come through from you, but I will check the university spam filter when I go in tomorrow.

Cheers,

Trent
by Trentb
Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:40 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Early 12 front axle
Replies: 9
Views: 1431

Re: Early 12 front axle

Model T front axles were made by several metal forging companies in addition to the Ford Motor Company. Almost invariably, the forgings included the trademark of the forging company. The major metal forging companies who made front axles included Transue Williams, Cleveland Hardware, Herbrand, and F...
by Trentb
Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:04 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Trent Boggess are you out there.
Replies: 1
Views: 656

Re: Trent Boggess are you out there.

Responded by email.

Trent
by Trentb
Tue May 21, 2019 2:21 pm
Forum: OT - Off topic
Topic: Delivered pre-T project today.
Replies: 15
Views: 2507

Re: Delivered pre-T project today.

My understanding is there are 7 surviving Model B Fords, one of which was a car without engine and transmission.

Total production of Model B Cars was about 500 units.

Respectfully submitted,

Trent Boggess
by Trentb
Mon May 13, 2019 9:12 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: 1908 Detroit, Ford runabout?
Replies: 6
Views: 1784

Re: 1908 Detroit, Ford runabout?

1908 Model S Runabout.

Possibly a very early Model T on the left.

Respectfully submitted,

Trent Boggess
by Trentb
Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:52 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Crankshaft grinding
Replies: 23
Views: 4225

Re: Crankshaft grinding

Yes, it is very important that Model T crankshafts be indexed off the crankshaft flange when regrinding! Actually, a Model T crankshafts were originally ground between centers. This made the three main bearings on the crankshaft perfectly aligned. But after 90+ years, the rear main bearings have bee...
by Trentb
Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:55 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Replacing a Valve
Replies: 10
Views: 2017

Re: Replacing a Valve

From your description of the problem, my money is on the valves being original two piece cast iron valves. After 100 years, there is just so much hard work these valves can stand befor the head, or parts of the head, break off. Before removing the cylinder head, follow the advice of Ruxstel24 above ...
by Trentb
Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:10 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Can anyone tell what type of band material this is?
Replies: 9
Views: 2047

Re: Can anyone tell what type of band material this is?

From your photo, my best guess is that is made out of treated asbestos. One manufacturer of this type of band material was Raybestos. If indeed the material is woven asbestos, then you should handle them with extreme caution. Even better, buy some new modern bands that are made of a material which i...
by Trentb
Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:23 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Zero Ring and Pinion clearance - HELP!
Replies: 29
Views: 4044

Re: Zero Ring and Pinion clearance - HELP!

Bill, I suspect that the internal dimensions of you 6 rivet housing have changed over the years. The reason I suspect this is because the differential does not turn freely until after you have shaved down one of the thrust washers to .170 from it original thickness of about .205”. Also keep in mind ...
by Trentb
Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:54 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Zero Ring and Pinion clearance - HELP!
Replies: 29
Views: 4044

Re: Zero Ring and Pinion clearance - HELP!

One thing to keep in mind when fitting the ring and pinion clearance is that when you take off material from one side of the differential shims and washers you need to add material to the other side. Assuming that you have zero ring and pinion clearance to begin with, when you use thinner washers (b...
by Trentb
Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:48 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: OT - Old Photo - Pre T - Ford Endures - Home of Superman
Replies: 5
Views: 1364

Re: OT - Old Photo - Pre T - Ford Endures - Home of Superman

This is most likely a 1907 Model N, although it could be a 1906. One feature of note is the radiator cap. This is what is some times referred to as the light bulb radiator cap because the cap actually screwed into the radiator neck, not on top of it as in the later design. The threads on this cap re...
by Trentb
Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:23 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: A new 1914
Replies: 13
Views: 2906

Re: A new 1914

I think this photo was taken in Highland Park at the corner of Woodward and Manchester. This would have been at the southwest corner of Ford’s Highland Park plant. Part of the foundation of the “Administrative Building” is visible to the right. The real give away here is the street car in the backgr...
by Trentb
Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:44 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Body and Serial Number Data Collection Input Wanted
Replies: 14
Views: 2260

Re: Body and Serial Number Data Collection Input Wanted

Hi Hap, I seem to recall that all bodies delivered to Ford before 1914 arrived from the manufacturer painted and trimmed (with floorboards). Beginning in 1914 with the completion of the the four big (!) 6 story buildings (Designated W, X, Y and Z) Ford began receiving bodies in the “white”, that is ...
by Trentb
Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:25 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Model T Chassis or Frame Number
Replies: 15
Views: 2381

Re: Model T Chassis or Frame Number

I once had the opportunity to inspect the frame number on a 1927 touring. The first two digits were 1 and 5, followed by 6 zeros. We were checking to see if the frame number and engine number matched. 🙂

(They did.)

Respectfully submitted,

Trent Boggess
by Trentb
Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:13 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: OT - Old Photo - Pre T Ford...Possibly Model S
Replies: 9
Views: 1740

Re: OT - Old Photo - Pre T Ford...Possibly Model S

It’s an N. The first give away is the fenders. The plow share fenders were only used on the Model N. Since it does not have running boards, a step plate is used instead (barely visible behind the end of the fron fender). Second are the bail sidelights. These disappeared in 1907-08 for the Model N. M...
by Trentb
Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:43 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Early Beaudette Body Numbers
Replies: 24
Views: 3089

Re: Early Beaudette Body Numbers

John Reagan is the most knowledgeable person I know of on the Beaudette Body Co. of Pontiac, MI. John has never indicated to me if any of the business records, including sales to FMC, have survived. My knowledge of body numbers comes from some work I did reviewing several thousand of the photographe...
by Trentb
Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:51 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Fred Houston
Replies: 32
Views: 4690

Re: Fred Houston

We are diminished.

Respectfully submitted,

Trent Boggess
by Trentb
Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:52 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Can you ID this part?
Replies: 15
Views: 2751

Re: Can you ID this part?

It looks like the remains of a shim used on the front radius rod ball socket to take up slack resulting from excessive wear of the ball and socket. There was also a smaller version used in the drag link ball sockets.

Respectfully submitted,

Trent Boggess
by Trentb
Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:22 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Shipping crate specification verification
Replies: 8
Views: 1986

Re: Shipping crate specification verification

You might want to check out this article from a past issue of the Vintage Ford: “The Use of Scrap in the Production of New Model T Parts,” The Vintage Ford, vol. 35 no. 1 (January-February 2000) pp. 26-29. There were two main reasons that Ford decided to specify the sizes of the shipping crates for ...
by Trentb
Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:03 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: KR Wilson what is it tool
Replies: 5
Views: 1447

Re: KR Wilson what is it tool

This KRW tool might be referred to as “The Mother of all front spring perch pullers”. It was a late addition to the Wilson Model T line appearing after the 1926 catalog went to print. It does appear in a 1930 tool catalog that I have a photo copy of. The screw goes on the threaded end of a Model T s...
by Trentb
Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:01 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Two piece valves
Replies: 14
Views: 2458

Re: Two piece valves

Late 26-27 engines that were intended for use in TT truck chassis used 1-piece all steel valves.

Respectfully submitted,

Trent Boggess