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Not mine, but how I spend my weekends. Holiday Nights at Greenfield Village. Not a bad way to spend December evenings in Michigan.

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Well, darn. Vanessa cleaned Ry's room and had it ready for you.

I'll be batch-in' it up this weekend, she and Duke will be up north and Ry's at school.

I'll party extra hard while I'm there in your honor.

We'll miss you (again) and cross our fingers for next year!

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Tom,

I don't know if you're on Facebook, but if you are there is a page called "Old American Photos". Lots of Model T stuff that would fit into your posts.

Keep 'em coming!

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John E, Is that a new addition to the museum? I was there in 2020 and didn't see that. At the time, they did have a separate display for the Model T with a lot of really cool displays such as a full cutaway T, and a simulated 'body drop' onto a chassis. At the time I was a docent at Piquette, and st...

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Did anyone else notice at about the 1:50 mark the last fellowe he puts in gets misloaded?

Fascinating film, Steve! Thanks for sharing it.

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I'm actually surprised by how many of the buildings in the old picture are still standing in Mt. Morris, MI. We know it as the location of Crossroads Village, a kind of Greenfield Village type attraction on a smaller scale. Crossroads does an excellent holiday train, their locomotives are former D&R...

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I can't help with the hitch, but wanted to comment on your camplet. It looks very similar to our Combi-Camp 404 that my parents bought new in 1984. We did many fun family trips with that camper- and at the time (I was 9) it was light enough that I could unhook it and set it up myself- it weighed abo...

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I'll assume you're working with just the right half, with the differential/axles and ring/pinion set in and the driveshaft bolted in place with 3 bolts, as you're doing setup. Is the driveshaft cotter pin installed? The last one I built I used too big of a pin and it would hit in one spot on the dif...

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Well shoot, I didn't get one.

Off to order one, the last one (pre Covid dated) got used to start the smoker.

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I just researched this over the weekend. Consensus on the interwebs is that hex nuts came into vogue in the 1880s or so. Some claim they were made even during the 1700s. On the depot hack that got redone at the Village this past winter the greater majority of the visible nuts are square. It is an ol...

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We have a 28 Express at the Village that has wire wheels. It is a really cool truck!

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My grandfather delivered coal during the Depression around metro Detroit. He also dug basements... with a shovel.

He said when the war broke out he couldn't wait to get into the Army- he figured it was less work than digging basements or shoveling coal!

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Right on! Looking forward to the final product. I know it will be a grand slam!

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This is an incredible amount of knowledge shared in one post. Thank you SO MUCH for this! My son and I are looking at doing something very similar (but with a Model A) this summer, so this is extremely helpful! Are you going to paint it? Or is that gray the final color? I'm hoping one day to build a...

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I'm in Dearborn every weekend at THF (I work in the Model T garage) and also for work (Ford Motor Company) and have no issues whatsoever. In fact, I'm typing this at the workbench right now. Come September, who knows where the state of the world will be, but right now it's perfectly fine here. My .0...

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Rich- the one running the mill reminds me of Old Car Festival this year. We put a Centennial (one of the ones built in 2003) on a "Henry's Helper"- a device ran off the back wheels of a T as a sort of "PTO" to power something- in our case I think it was a corn sheller or some other sort of grain mil...

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Huzzah!

Greetings from Greenfield Village and the Holiday Nights crew. We can't wait to see you back here next year!

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Mission accomplished!

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Steve just called me and asked if I had your number. Unfortunately, I do not.

If anyone has Dallas' number, please PM it to me so I can get it to Steve. He's trying to get lines of communication.

He sounds good, and was in good spirits when I talked to him.

Thanks!

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I can't find my copy at the moment but the book "The Model T Ford in Speed & Sport" had discussion and plans for building a T speedster including those with fabric coverings. Some vendors have them and they can be found online. The plans were quite small and poor reproductions making them nice for ...

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This one is pretty straightforward. Rusty Berg's Chevy headed speedster at Piquette a couple years ago.

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Dallas,
Thanks for the boots on the ground report. While the progress is awesomely encouraging, it must have been really tough for you to see him that way.

Safe travels home, brother!

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today's report. Thanks Ed Baudoux!

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To Wayne's point: This is my ideal T.

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Driving back to the garage after disconnecting from the "Henry's Helper" Sunday evening after Old Car Festival.

It was a Zen moment.

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Update: and good news at that!

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Greetings, all. Thanks to Dave H for collecting all these well wishes. He has a plan to get them to Steve so he can see how much he was missed in Dearborn this weekend. 376346930_1510562376360036_2427727953012626489_n.jpg While we all feel the need for justice, let's keep in mind we do not know all ...

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For those who could not attend, I couldn't let an OCF go by without those trademark overalls. Yes, I know, he wears Roundhouse, but all I had were Libertys.

Thanks to Dave H for collecting well wishes on his card. That was a great thing to do!

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My wife just gave me an update. She has been in contact with the daughter and mother who were there and witnessed the accident and ended up going to Fort Wayne to be at the hospital with him. The thing they need most is a next of kin- so if anyone knows anyone related please reach out and we'll get ...

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I called him about 0100 when my wife woke me up to tell me. Left him a voicemail, so hopefully he can call back soon.

I have two tire tubes he sent to our house to be picked up when he got here...

Fingers crossed and good vibes sent!

jason

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Congrats to you as well! That day for me was a little over 30 years ago. Time sure flies, so be sure you make the most of it!

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Model T Driver's Ed!
My wife scheduled it for both of us on our 16th anniversary.

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I'll try and sneak out... maybe I'll bring the tow truck.

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Bob, that's the group my son hangs out with. Great kids, all of them. And most of them own some pretty killer stuff- Ed's Lincoln, for example.

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My oldest bought his first T project at 17. The next summer, he was also able to build a (off topic) drag rail for the Race of Gentlemen, of which pieces were donated to him by my clubmates because they saw his desire to work with traditional hot rod techniques and his love of old cars. We spent the...

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Very cool truck, Burger! I'd drive the wheels off that.

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I'm still kicking myself for not getting a TT years ago when it was offered for $500... I was in 'speedster' mode and it was just too darn slow for me at the time.

Now, it's just about perfect.

Thanks for another picture to add to the collection!

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Thanks for posting that! Very interesting to see how it was advertised outside the USA.

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Although in the past I've acted as a docent, I'm not officially affiliated with the museum in any capacity. I want that to be clear, this is ME acting on an email I received, not in any official capacity for the Museum itself. That said, I did get the latest issue of "The Klaxton", their newsletter,...

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On 27 July, 1917 Ford introduced the TT.

Cheers to Ford trucking for 106 years!

(The picture below is from 1926).

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Throw them in the turtle deck when you come in September and I'll buy them.

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Looks like a drag link or tie rod broke? There isn't really that much damage, as it appears the hood was taken off but not put back on correctly, and the wooden 'sidewalk' or whatever it is isn't torn up like the car dragged along it. The 'stick', I believe, is a stick. And the canvas cover? Got me!...

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I'll talk to my wife... might be the tailgunner in our '22 F-150. Sounds like a great time but we don't have a mobile T... yet.

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This is interesting... and timely.

I was reading "From Here to Obscurity" the other night and came across the 1913 section with the E&J 666... "black and brass".

That was my first thought, but I'm guessing that these are truly brass painted black.

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Unfortunately, it is. Wayne went through an 'urban renewal' during the late '60s that gutted it's 'small town' feel... and soul.

That's why Michigan Ave is split east and westbound now.

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Luke,
Thanks for the cleanup!

Wayne,
Thanks for the ID on the cars. The T in the middle reminds of Steve's. Maybe I should have him park there when he comes for OCF for a 'then and now'.

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Is it mid july when peak color arrives up north Mike?😂 On one of the Strategic Air Command FB pages I did read a story about a crew doing their 4 July celebration in winter gear with snow on the ground... at KI Sawyer. ;) My youngest considered Gogebic CC very seriously. Until we did our visit, I h...

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Posted by our local (Wayne, MI) historical society this morning. Dated in the 'teens, north side of Michigan Ave.

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I'll second the driving school experience. My wife and I took the class in 2016 and it was a great way to spend an afternoon. The hardest part for me driving a T so infrequently is trying to 'forget' the muscle memory of driving a modern manual transmission car. I always want to jam the low pedal al...

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I didn't think about the Google book angle. Good call on that!

I'm figuring on a trip to Dearborn soon to check the library.

Thanks for the response!

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Awesome! Thanks for the lead, I'll have to head over there.

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My youngest got me a set of Clymer books over Memorial Day weekend. One of them is a reprint of the 1926 Model T salesman's guide. in it, there is a listing of Ford publications. One of them that is super intriguing to me is "Power and Haulage", which is dedicated to "carrying the story of the Fords...

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Dallas,

That's an awesome memory! I snorted out loud when they cheered hitting 25 MPH. When I was up north for Memorial Day weekend I got stuck behind many buggies... the fastest was 9 miles per hour!

Thanks for this morning's smile.

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Thanks for the video, Dave!

Was that 30 HP and 131 torque?

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I can't help with the Olds book, but my son found 4 Clymer books at a yard sale up north, which he bought for $1. One of them is a reprint of the 1926 Model T sales manual. Well worth searching for one if you're interested in that sort of thing. It has pricing, and how to lay out financing, etc. v/r...

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^^ I can vouch for that, Steve.

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Just heard from a clubmate who is there that The Race of Gentlemen in Wildwood, NJ has been cancelled.

And it was a nippy 40 degrees here in metro Detroit this morning. BRRR!

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I've been trying to find a set for a 15-23 style roadster off and on for a couple years, but always dead ends. We have all the sheet metal, but only 1 or two pieces of wood, like the sill rails. Pretty much need to start from scratch, and those plans would be the bee's knees! Congrats on scoring a s...

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I kind of had a feeling about that, since the picture is in Greenfield Village.

Beautiful car!

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I borrowed the sunflower pic to use as my desktop at work.

Great story!

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The Gilmore in Hickory Corners, MI offers this. I know because I is a graduate of it.

A very helpful suggestion, for sure, for people who are interested in owning and driving a T. I'm still in the interested part... the car is in pieces in the garage.

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jason

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In a book about Corvairs I used to have, the author mentioned not taking 'big' parts on trips, mostly because of space and weight. Instead, he suggested having them boxed up and ready to ship, in case there was an incident. That way, you are prepared but not hauling around stuff you don't need. If y...

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Awesome group of shots! Thank you for sharing them! Here is another view of the 1909 transcontinental racer with the wreath on it. Another one of my favorite cars. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Ford_Model_%22T%22_car_no._2%2C_winner_of_the_1909_trans-continental_race_from_New_Y...

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Looks like a great time, Dave!

Making your car the pace car is a leadership lesson I learned in Boy Scouts. I'm glad to see it used in the 'real world' as well.

Thanks for sharing your adventures!

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Steve's did Sunday morning in my driveway. We were both a little surprised, it seemed. His ignition was acting up Sunday, so it wasn't a total shock.

See what I did there?

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I was sitting at my kitchen table on Friday doing homework. Since I live off the railroad tracks, noise is nothing to be concerned with. However, as I was sitting there, I heard something that sounded... different. I didn't think too much of it, at first, I thought it was just a train sitting waitin...

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Truth be told, I'd sacrifice my time in the K for the prototype... that would be dreamy!

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Well, I was in the village at 4 PM...

Besides, if I get a ride I'll feel like the Coyote if he caught the Road Runner... what would I have to look forward to?

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Rob,
That hour or so we spent tuning his ignition was priceless. Mostly because I'd never done it before, but also because of the company I was in.

As someone who works on stuff years into the future, I was astounded by something so primitive, yet so functional!

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Sorry, Rob. Patience is not a virtue I was extolled with from birth.

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Was it the next race he slid him a $1000 bill and told Kulick to quit?

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While he was distracted, I polished the contacts on his coil packs and coil box. I also snuck in a couple plug wires.

Don't tell him, though. lol

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Aside from the topic at hand, I'm amazed at the last picture. Is that a church next door to the plant, and a home behind it?

Times sure were different back then! I've seen pictures of Piquette Street from back in the day and I know it was very residential as well...

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I saw Derrek go by when I was riding with Kyle in his roadster. Don't know if my smile was bigger or if River's was.

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It's too bad Henry hated them so much. Could you imagine if they made 15,000,000 Ks? Oh, the possibilities...

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LOL, Dave, I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it. And learned a lot about the T ignition system for when we finally get ours done.

And, yes, I did do some homework Saturday morning.

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We only made it for a few hours, hit Randy Hayward's motorcycle show Saturday in the morning with my son and his girlfriend, then did lunch and shopping downtown Detroit in the early afternoon. He convinced me to stop by OCF, and I'm glad we did. Met up with some of his friends down by the lagoon, a...

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Well, he made it to our house Friday night. I didn't get to spend much time with him at the show, but we had some GREAT conversations both evenings. He told some wonderful stories about his family and homesteading in the late 1800s. He's got so much history to share it's incredible. I haven't heard ...

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I can vouch that he was here as well.

Even my wife's squirrels were impressed.

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Sorry I missed all of you this year. We went to my buddy Randy's antique motorcycle show downtown early Saturday afternoon, then retired home to do homework... the joy of being back in school. Were going to try and make the gaslight parade but it was just not in the cards. Had a couple good late nig...

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We haven't done anything to our T in over a year. However, driving through Amish country in mid Michigan all week (for the first time in at least 4 years) made me REALLY wish it was driveable. Definitely a motivational factor. Once the rail is done, I think it's time to get seriously started on it a...

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It's not totally nearby (within 30 miles, I'd say), but Detroit Greenfield campground in Ypsilanti seems to be a popular choice with my out of town friends who've stayed there. It's down I-94 from Dearborn. This is such awesome news- I missed all my T buddies last year. Steve- if you choose to stay ...

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Dayton may actually still have it. I have a set of Rudge/Whitworths from a Rickenbacker and they said they could help with those.

Contact them directly and see.

Good luck!

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Godspeed, sir. Never met ya, but read your posts religiously. The T community will definitely miss your wisdom.

Til the big roundup in the sky, happy trails.

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If that's the case, count me in, Les.

Hopefully can source some local wood to make the wood body supports and a bed as well.

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That's really nifty!

Now, if someone can come up with some for a 15-23 roadster...

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Tried putting some 2X4's away in the garage rafters I'd found under a boat I sold... slipped off the radius rod on my son's Model A drag rail and cut my heel pretty good on the T rear axle next to it. That's about all the T-ing I've done for awhile. ;) Hopefully, we can start putting Mildred (his Mo...

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Rob, I hope you are able to show him this thread, and all of the love and support he has within the old car community.

Life isn't fair sometimes, but knowing that you are wanted and cared about can make a huge difference in one's outlook on things.

Wish him the best.

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Awesome info! Thank you, Rob!

Do you know if it still exists?

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Thank you, Rob! I knew if anyone would know it would be you!

Good luck at the doc. My oldest is 19, and he's still 'a kid' in my eyes, though he may feel differently. LOL

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Rob Heyen, I'm looking at you, bud. ;) I'm looking for information on the 1904 race car known as "Baby". It appears to be a twin Model A/AC/C engined car, rated at 20 HP. I've found a few pictures, but nothing wrote up yet. Anyone have info? Thanks in advance! jk TwinEngineA.jpeg twinengineAedit.jpe...

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Jerry VanOoteghem wrote: ↑
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Jason,

Yes! The yellow one. I suppose you see it more than I do these days!
LOL that's probably true! I'll be spending all of next weekend with it.
Tell it Jerry says "hello" please.

Someone says "Hi, Jerry!"

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Can't forget this one! Fellow Barnstormer and friend Clayton Paddison's gow job...

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And, Dan, there are those of us who try and live like it's still pre WWII.

At least when I'm not at work. Then, I'm a few years into the future. It's quite a paradox.
(I'm a prototype tech at Ford).

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Darn it, Burger, I went searching and can't find a 'gowhub'.

Got my hopes up for nothing. LOL

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Oh man, Dan. That second car is the bee's knees!

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I'm thinking he means he digs the modified T's, Tom. Gow jobs, speedsters, soup jobs, etc.

What they were called before they were known as 'hot rods'.

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Thank you for all of the detail shots. They are very helpful for seeing things I've only seen in book drawings.

Beautiful car!

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Fordspeed Equipent of New York, New York marketed this, and other, bodies in the early twenties.Does anyone have a catalog (1920-21)or an actual body? Would like to recreate for a speedster. This is all I've seen, thanks to classicspeedsters.com for even having this!

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I have an engine (well, Michael does.) And I know where to find a propeller...

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