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Frank, if that question is for me, my comment was not meant to be derogatory. M..
....Oops! Forgot to answer your question - if you have an entirely correct 1919 car with a 1920 engine I would argue that it is a 1919 unless someone along the way had titled it differently. If I were to drop a later (or earlier) engine in my 1917 Touring I would...

For what it's worth I found the Photoshop cut and paste I did for the above image.
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All our tooling stamping dies, ejection molds, patterns and inventory will be available for sale until March 1,2022 After if is not sold they will be scrapped. Machines will be auctioned off.

At $5,400 plus chassis does it matter what the beastly engine is? Dual Zeniths. Doubt if its a Frontenac SOHV, would expect a logo somewhere, pictures don't match either. A one off?

#1 & #21 Utah 1916 brown and cream plate.

As an FYI

1. Model T Fords have bands. That stated, be very secure with protecting a capacitor. I understand that most bands with guitars start in a garage where a model T can be parked. Bands can upgrade to the quality caps used in Fender and Gibson guitars. Made of durable high grade polyester, and favorites for vintage restorations or new...

A most authoritative source is the publication Ford Methods and The Ford Shops , 1914-1915 by Arnold and Faurote.

See Chapter V, starting on page 135.

You can read for free via Internet Archive, here is link (hope it works). If not just google: Ford Methods and The Ford Shops read for free

You go Rich! Those pretty ones miss out on a lot of fun!

Thank you so much for those drawings, Bob! wonderful information

Fels-Naptha is a period correct soap and oiling the felt just aids in compression - it's a seal - how will gas wash out the seal ?

It's brass, and yes English Ford, I remember now, had a 48 prefect with that cap.
I made a baffle, drilled both ears at angle into top, formed piece of copper roof flashing and soldered it in --- going to be good enough
I think in the 60s it was being sold as replacements, the coils have 1963 dates, I figured this car got a 60s type restoration,...

Thx Jim.
SR

While the tabs on the battery box lid will position the lid on the box, they do nothing to hold the battery down within the box. A wooden spacer will lift the battery to the correct height, but the battery still needs to be clamped down. Wooden spacers on top that keep the lid spaced just above the tabs on the side will allow the hold down clamps...

My paternal grandparents and their 6 children made an epic cross-country trip from Ventura, CA to Paris, ARK in 1923, camping along the way. I had no photos from their trip, so this photo collection helps me to better visualize what it looked like. Thanks for the photos.

My family's trip was made in a 1921 Sheridan. The group consisted of the two...

I don't claim to be an expert, nor do I have an original unmolested original interior to photograph, but from my investigations, the striped gray cloth was only used on the seats; red stripe on maroon cars; green strip on green cars, and white stripe on gray cars. This is especially true on 1926 vehicles. In 1927, early production followed this...

1). Thanks for the update Ron...

2). Sometimes the drawings contain post process info and instructions...

3). Other times you have to have the Ford post processes, which are in a chart somewhere written by Wandersee which I managed to stumble across many moon ago...I never figured out whether (say) Heat Treat W applied to all of a certain class...

Very cute.

Gotta love a Golden Retriever! :D

I'm sure there was no intentional comparison between Out and About and Living in the city but...
1) If you count the smiles, I dare to say that people are happier in rural vs urban areas.
2) the city has more stuff.
3) There's more dust/smog in the city.

Either way, I enjoyed both sets of photos immensely.

I believe these were used in 1912 only

Those are GREAT!!!
They're a little heavy on the Louse and cock-roach theme aren't they.
His art and ideas are a bit like Smitty the comic strip created in the early 1920s by Walter Berndt.
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Mike,
I believe it should be 48
Keith

Peter, thanks for the card information. I have 11 of the Dutch cards and 11 of the 4 triangle cards, one of which is the Charlie Chaplin card. I guess from that I'm three cards shy of those. However, I have 14 of the Cobb X. Shinn cards and none are duplicates.

My childhood neighbor work at the Ford plant in Detroit prior to WW1. He joined the navy and never returned to Ford after the war. He said it just wasn't worth it. The navy trained him in electrical engineering at Harvard and he worked in that field for a while.

Art Mirtes

An earlier version of the MTFCA book on The Model T Ford Electrical Systems had a diagram and details on how to build a Magnet Charger and that one worked.

I had one, but lost, sold or gave it away.

I found the same details in an old Model T Club magazine, but I do not remember the club magazine or date.

There are two types, one charges the...

I put the cars on jack stands and use the power washer to clean the wheels and tires. Running in gear works great.

I recall someone in past year? or two? or? posted their progress in developing a coil testing device that used a tuna can and rotating pointer to display the spark, basically a scaled down hcct pointer and brake drum. I think he used a cam operated switch to intermittently energize the coil and a small electric motor to drive the unit. For the...

With all the changes regarding doing business on the internet, I wonder if good, old fashion swap meets will start making a comeback?

I hope so!!!!!!!

According to this article, Cobb Shinn was hired by Ford to develop these postcards as a form of advertising!!

Interesting approach for sure!

Jennifer
aka ModelTGal

In your case, you might get lucky. Put the hogs head back on and put the plug in and fill up with your 5/20 oil. Then jack up the rear wheels and start your car. Put chock blocks front and back of the front wheels. Then put the parking brake lever forward and with the engine running depress the low pedal then the brake pedal then the reverse...

If they had been driving through that part of Wyoming for a long time at Model T speed, maybe they just wanted a change of scenery.
I do love Wyoming.
Rich

Upps...dummy me...I didn't read thoroughly enuf.. :roll: ..I was thinking head gaskets!! Pan gaskets should still be available. Sorry for my mistake!! Not wide awake when I read the thread I guess!

Took a pic of my TT in front of the Oakesdale Flour Mill this summer,
but can't seem to upload it.

Lang's... creep the basement. Treasure trove of stuff there.

No, her car would have been a Hispano Suiza. But she may have had the model T in her tool box, to be sure that she wouldn't get stranded out somewhere.

Ed aka #4

Ken is right. Just get those 2 accessory L brackets that fit under the crankcase with 4 bolt holes each that stabilizes the tranny cover, pan and block. I’m at the Dr. office now but someone will list the correct nomenclature.

Oil Pan Supports
L's
Belly

I have tried using one of the magents on the flex shaft, the type that looks like choke cable. As long as the missing part(s) was on the transmission side, worked fine, but would hang up on the flywheel starter teeth when trying to feed it under.

It appears by the tooling marks and the inconsistency among the teeth I believe they were not hobbed. It appears they may have been indeed cut with a form cutter. That sounds crude and inefficient but that is what I am seeing on the low speed gear that I have. Typically what I have seen in the past with gears that were cut with a gear hobb there...

I clicked on the photo to enlarge and it is taking me to some other photo hosting site. Maybe a photo that is a little lighter. But, offhand I would say no, but can not see it real well.

I would say that TT is pulling a stand up rake. Loading loose hay that high with a fork would be very difficult. Strattling the windrow is another clue.

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Those are all good tips, Bob. Thanks for posting them.

Good advice about your radiator. They can still look “good” but can definitely fool you. Been there and done that. Do as others have mentioned and use some JB weld and some pieces of tail pipe or tubing to fix a decent repair and see if the radiator works.

If it doesn’t you can have it recored for around $6-700.00. Still not real cheap but you...

Robert,

If your 1926 is closer to being on the road, I would encourage you to get it running first. Having one that drives is a big encouragement to most of us. (And one that also stops.) Although it sounds like you may have another one that is driveable? And if so then you have one to help keep you motivated. I would not normally recommend...

Appreciate the answers, a forum member reached out to me via email and with a few exchanges, answered my questions.

I would recommend that you visit a good machine shop and have the surface of the block reground. Just take off enough to make it smooth. Do the same to the head if it is pitted like that. That will also raise the compression a bit. When you put it back together put the head on without any gasket and check that the pistons don't hit the head. The...

We were spared however some of our friends lost their homes, others were evacuated. One friend lost all of his classics. Big mess for sure.

David, I applied the same logic to my 1912 van, except that in that case the whole former could be juggled around on the flat firewall. That allowed me to juggle the height and the sideways setting. The hood ended up fitting beautifully, with the built up rod hole 1/4 higher and 3/8 offset from centre. It is not noticeable at all.

Allan from down...

Steve, I think they lost the plot converting the dimensions of that switch. It's huge if you believe what you read.

Luke, a small push/pull switch, mounted as I suggested, can be hidden. Just mount it further forward and dogleg the bracket up a bit if needed. I find if things are not within easy reach, they tend to be ignored somewhat.

Allan...

The MTFCI judging guidelines give textual descriptions for each model year of the more common, later-used lamps. They also have two pages with 23 photos illustrating the lamps used from the beginning thru 1912 along with info on the stampings on the lamps. For example, In the text of the guidelines, for 1912 Sidelamps it says: Jno Brown Model 100...

That car is probably long gone but at least it will live forever in a photograph. At least we know about what type of car it was. I don’t think I have ever heard of a Marion until now. Looked pretty nice for a 1909. It belonged to a local Family here in my hometown.
Thanks for all the help.
Robbie

On a similar topic...automated phone calls, I keep trying to get them to put the extended warranty on my '13 Ford. Maybe they'll do it when I get an odometer on ot!

I'm sure others like me have found it hard to find information about these kinds of things. The Internet and other sources have a wealth of information, but digging it out isn't always easy.
Thanks for all who bring these bits of additional information.
Rich Eagle

Run your motor in the dark, sparks jumping between wires will easily become evident. My Dodge was running poorly until I opened the hood one night out in the driveway and saw the lightshow. Had sparks jumping from the spark wires to the headers on 4 cylinders. Don.

When there’s a will there’s a way. Good job varmint! Being a maintenance mechanic / welder for many years and when I saw your post I was wondering how you would do it. I thought welding the panels together would work. It’s something that’s not commonly done.
When prime and painting the panel I would imagine it would be a good idea to sand off the...

Parts are worth more then a complete car
Especially in a speedster

it doesnt work for me ,i only get 1 date that lights up in2010 and get error on that date

WHAT WAS THAT YOU SAID ABOUT SHORT PIPES? I'M A MITE HARD O'HEARING ON ACCOUNT OF I ALWAYS RUN SHORT PIPES.

I like that idea. Then we could comment on them more easily. Sometimes it's hard to point out certain pictures when there are lot's in a row.
They certainly are special.
Thanks for the kind words.
Rich

Actually, she's a Cougar! She shares a garage with Harrison Ford! :D
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It was in a bunch of T Model stuff I bought. I didn’t think it was for a T.
Does anybody have any use for it?

...What is the apparatus on the drivers side front spring shackle? And what sort of friction shock setup is that, and is it only on one end of the axle?...

Randy, the front suspension is a sort of 'Poor Man's Panhard' setup, inspired by numerous Austin 7 Specials (what they call speedsters) in the UK.

The driver's shackle is locked from...

Scott, I am 99% sure the 26-27 wishbones are different. Ill include a link to the Improved Models a study of threads I did a few years ago. It will show the discussion on the different angles of the wishbones.

and yes, to the changing of the wishbones and needing to re-check the caster adjustment. When this axle is installed, it will need the...

I have some old WICO stationary engine magnetos, and they have the dual coil arrangement. At least one of them is still in working order, and it has had no repair or replacement work for at least 70 years that I know of.

This is for a 1924 Touring that I have been working on now for three years. Just waiting for a friend to come over and help me put on a new top, everything else is nearly ready. Thanks

Found on road dead is an understatement. From those pictures it looks like the road died too.

Go to your local hardware store and ask for shovel handle rivets. They should have them in a jandorf box somewhere. These work great for felloe plate rivets on early wheels.

I'm not trying to start an argument, but my Sprinter is the perfect tow vehicle for my purposes. It's converted to a camper van and on some tours I choose to camp in it either at the tour or while enroute if it's some distance away. If I were pulling a loads like Freighter Jim it wouldn't do the job but the turbo-diesel performs well for me, even...

I got the rubber ones for my ‘26 coupe and apparently, they were not long enough, because the first time I opened the doors wide, they broke at the loop, so, I would advise getting the 8” ones. Jim Patrick

If I understand your problem correctly, you are making up a shortened driveshaft tube from loose parts to fit a Muncie you are installing. You have a new old stock driveshaft ball end to use in the shortened tube. The clearance at the ball in the Muncie housing is 0.040, which is to much play. Because the driveshaft angle is steeper than stock T...

Do these things first. Check the wire between the magneto post and the terminal block. Then check the wire between the terminal block and the ignition switch. You should have continuity between all these points, however, there should be no connection between the magneto and the battery. Be sure that the switch either connects to the magneto or the...

My 17 at first cranked like stirring molasses, my thoughts were how am I going to hand crank this,the old oil I drained out was almost gear oil, I put in some used 5w30(360 miles in a Porsche- ),I took the transmission cover off and poured some on the bands, and back into the clutches ,poured some in the cylinders and let it set. Now I am...

I suspect you introduced him to the Forum. That can be the best way to keep in touch with Model T'ers for many of us away from the action.

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Thanks for the explanation Richard ! I now understand why the kit contained it's own axle shaft.

Thank you all for you kind words

If you clean up the steel tube of the column the brass quadrant can be slid down the tube so you can get at the column under the quadrant. Then you have access to the area of the case body and working the steel column with light hammer blows can be much more targeted. This will help break up any rust/corrosion which may have frozen the parts...

Whenever I see period pictures of Model T’s I always wonder if any in the pictures are one I drive now!

A simple coil (choke) can act as a variable resistance (actually impedance) in a variable frequency AC circuit. For the operating frequncy range of the T magneto, I'd think you'd need an iron cored choke, similar to the primary winding of the T coil. It would be placed in series with the devices, such as lights, that you wanted to provide with...

Vaporizer Rebuild
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The following diagrams are explained in the link above

John,

Generally there are 3 types of service - Good, Cheap and Fast. You can pick 2. The results are:

Good and Cheap service won't be Fast
Fast and Cheap service won't be Good
Good and Fast service won't be Cheap

Best of luck,

Dom

Hello, Frank,
thank you for writing.

Rainer, if you apply some petroleum jelly or some cooking oil on the hood and the new leather it will possibly squeeze in. Only use a rubber hammer when working on the hood. Most hoods on the model T’s are somewhat bent up like yours and if it doesn’t bother you, drive it the way it is, there isn’t enough...

Here's the links to a couple of great videos. I always enjoy taking a look at any annual coverage of this event as their is always a heap of nice early T's and lots of other lovely brass cars to look at.