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I love it! Congratulations to whomever gets to use that on their NRS Ford!
The workmanship is beautiful, and appears well thought out.
My first thought when I saw the pictures, especially of the switch using a 1917 to 1922 switch as a base? Was how much alike it was to a faux wood coil box I began building a few years back for my mid 1913...

Perhaps, at a later date. With the holiday season upon us, and a huge tour the day after Christmas, there isn't a whole lot of time for anything!

Jeff Hood, You are right the pad is to lubricate the dovetail. I cleaned up the dovetail and found the holes, one on the top and one on the bottom of it. I have attached two photos showing them.

I think this detail is a good idea, and it is another small example of the Model T's many good design features.

Jeff, You and I sort of stumbled onto...

The vehicle in no. 2 looks like an ambulance. It could be in Europe.

The ones I have worked with, the torque tube was not real round to start with. My OP; They were more concerned with the ends lining up, not what was going on in between.

When i grew up I was Trained if you used someone's tools and damaged them, you replaced them with the same or better. I would gladly pay a deposit to be able to use a tool like that>

Prefer this gap tool as the outer lever tabs can fit under the outer electrode at different spots. Makes tweaking that electrode easy. Just use real gentle pressure by rotating the disc with the tab edge on the rim of the plug to lift the electrode up or down , depending on where you place the tab.

The loops indicate the gap as they just clear...

The in line filter pictured is a temporary measure until I see rust no more, or at least reduced rust from the tank.
I'm going to try a model A or tractor glass bowl eventually and replace the stock all metal one as shown.
Car will be sitting on jackstands until mid April '22.

Thanks, that what I wanted to know.

Remember that the spark energy is not what makes the engine run. The spark serves to ignite the air/fuel charge, the rapid and expansive combustion of which is what make the engine move.

I think I see the makings of a joke here about four traveling salesmen, whose Model T ran out of gas down the road from a farmer, who had 20 daughters. And all the daughters like to...Well, you can make up the rest of the joke to suit your sense of humor - or lack of it. :lol:

Marshall :lol:

And your pictures are all coming out right side up. Mine all post sideways for some reason!😊

Rainer

rereading your question regarding voltage...starting on MAG, with a good magneto and a not-too-stiff clutch, you will or should get, about 2.0 - 2.5V from the MAG. If your coils are properly adjusted to 1.3A, then you should be able to get it to fire. Starting is not about voltage; it is about amperage

I like your taste in choices. I couldn't find any barn finds so I built 2 Ts from parts not worth restoring to look like them. It gave the added bonus of having everything rebuilt and working right. They are as much fun as my other restored cars.
I hope you find just what you are looking for. This is a good place to share those things.
Welcome
Rich

Learning something new makes it a great day. Thanks Russ

That was the only article in the magazine worth reading!

More fantastic images. Glad you do these and thank you!

John Kueln, I followed your advice. I repeatedly vacuumed and use compressed air in crevices and surfaces. Blowing those areas with compressed air really worked well. Thanks.

Thee is also a procedure in tinkerin' Ted Ashman's books.

Bill McCully at one time owned 1909 model T #314. The car was originally owned by 3 brothers who owned the local Ford dealer.They never sold the car, the last surviving brother lost the car in a poker game in the early 1950'S. Somehow Bill acquired the car, I can't remember the specific details. He eventually sold it to a collector in Chicago. In...

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Tenvoorde Ford is still in business here in Minnesota.

They are considered the oldest automobile dealership in the U.S.

Since 1903 I believe.

Craig,

As I rebuild a block I made the machine shop grind off the top for maximum 0.4mm and the bottom for max 0.1mm. Less is better on both sides but the surface must be clean for the gaskets.

About the valves:
0.015 oversize first.
Installing the cutter guide.
Use the 46° cutter till you have a clean surface.
Use the 15° and the 60° cutter to...

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Picked up a set of smoothie “blems” from Coker at Hershey, fine condition, mounted up just right, pliable and finish is good for my use on current replica project.

Can’t find what is blemish, perhaps the mottled gray colors poorly uniform and maybe the tire will age brown but don’t think so, they are...

Like your option Frank!!!!!!!

Steve, My latch looks like your top picture. Im going to call it 1914. but there are variations,

Thanks again ....

have fun and be safe and Merry Christmas

Not a good idea to make the dam or the standoffs any higher than about 1/4 higher than the horseshoes.

With COVID and the social distancing how does one go about making contacts and learning more about Model Ts?

I am in the NW suburbs of Chicago and thinking of buying my first model T.
Appreciate your input and thank you! Jim

There are lots of T owners in the Chicago area as was pointed out.
Socializing in large or small groups have always had...

There is an overlap in the Ra finish possible for either lathe turning and grinding. 32-16 is possible with lathe turning. Easier to find someone who can turn your drums rather than grinding.

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That's inspiring, thanks!

Now if only I could get parts for my Edsel...

As to why one thread would be worn more than others, I'd guess that many heads ran many miles on worn out engines during the Depression and WWII and beyond. Worn engines, broken rings, worn out starters, if any, and old weak batteries, if any, may have required many owners to clean one or more problem spark plugs very often, maybe even every time...

For those who may not know about it, here's the Z tool for adjusting bands. It's not tedious like the #1917 wrench that came with every car, and not terribly scarce. I see it often among the Model T tools at swap meets.

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My dad would wash the car from time to time using a bucket of water, a big sponge, and a chamois. He'd put a little kerosene in the water which gave the car a nice shine when wiped down. He'd paint the tires and rubber floormat with some kind of black goo mixed with drip gasoline. It had a strong odor, but it looked great. The process never seemed...

Thanks Steve .

Please forgive my ignorance, I’m new to Model T’s. I have a 1925 Fordor that I’m working on.......

Sounds like you found a source for both an engine and parts .

Great to hear you were successful. Many small projects on the Model T that should take 30-45 minutes end up becoming much longer….

So many details to look at. The sunvisor on the coupe, the tire tread on the center door the hasslers and center caps on the wheel below the guy bending his front fender.
Love seeing these photos. Thank you for making our day.

Careful Dallas L, you might get as bad as I looking at details in photos for hours!
Where to even begin?!
There are...

I just got off the phone with Brassworks and they will have a pair in the mail to me this afternoon. $39 + shipping.

: ^ )

That's kind of what I figured but was hoping that there was some trick I was missing. Darn. Those pins can be pesky little buggers.

Air bags are not necessary if you wear the proper driving attire while out with the wife.

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Thanks for the great information Wayne and Keith (and for the original post John). When I think of Model T's, I find myself placing them in approximate groups. I think of the 1909-1911/12 T as a moderate priced quality car ($850 in 1909 was a significant amount, about $22,000 in todays dollars). During this same period, other auto makers were also...

My opinion, end play is over rated. I had more than .040 on my 15 and still rated good with an ECCT. If magnets are strong it should be ok to run. 15 volts certainly is. Heck I just put an engine back together after doing a quickie overhaul and not all of the poles were exactly what the book said it was supposed to be. Some were somewhere close...

Actually the pinion taper is 3½ per ft on diameter. This taper has an included angle of 16.594 degrees.

Eric makes a good point. The camera angles can make a big difference in how proportions look. If you look at the individual pieces it's hard to doubt they are much the same.
Good points all around.
Rich

You can test at road speeds by running the car with that left wheel jacked off the floor. But the test of survivability will be in actual driving.

Doing as you suggest will cause a double speed display because of the differential and one wheel not rotating. :D

In addition, this can be done lots simpler and without getting a CO poisoning in my...

No government conspiracy. It was the style of the Flapper era. :P

They didn't have good permanent magnets prior to WWII. Most large radios and some table tops used an electromagnet for a field magnet. The field magnet was usually supplied with filtered DC at high voltage by the plate supply. They usually included a hum-bucking coil on the same core as the large field magnet winding. The hum bucker was much...

Wow. Where to begin?
First off, bodies in the 1910s were mostly made by outside body suppliers, not by Ford. So they varied quite a bit from one supplier to the next as well as even one batch order to the next. Although by 1920, many if not most open car bodies were being made by Ford, there still were a lot of variations that continued.
Some...

Tom 👋

Jared can be reached by voice or text
at his cell phone @ nine-1-three-7-zero-6-zero-1-nine-2

He is joining the local Tucson MTFCA chapter 👍

FJ

Very nice message, YES, keep Christ in Christmas ! And the T also!

I have a file which has several Model T's in India. will attach a few photo's
We have a member here from India who restored a Model T there before migrating to Australia.
He was not allowed to export the Ford when he left India.

Terry,

I could view your attachment that is a PDF format and I made some snippets to show what it looked like. They are posted below:

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What year/years did FoMoCo of CANADA make a Torpedo Runabout as well as a Commercial Delivery Car (pie...

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good catch, Pat
is obvious now, but wasn't the other night :?

I suspected that the Brush auto was planted to make the video more interesting.

I taught my high school friend to drive hers this past summer. She had never driven it since owning it. She took her lessons the day we got it running after several years of slumber.

www.trackofthewolf.com. Laurel Mountain Forge LMF-Stain-Cherry.

Problem solved. A friend here in Texas is going to handle it. Maybe he can contact the seller and straighten things out so I can bid again from him.

Dan, Two of the taps are marked with only Stevens and the size , no Walden markings. The other two are marked Rollfast and the size. I have 4 different Stevens catalogs and a Stevens/Walden catalog and I have not found any reference to these left-hand taps.

Humblej, I bid on the taps just for the two right-hand taps and the left-hand taps were...

I'm not too far away, in Paris Ontario. Let me know if I can help.

Near as I can tell? The front half of the body looks similar to Donnie Brown's. However the back look like it could even be a common runabout turtle deck? (Maybe?) The gasoline tank, whatever shape it is, is likely inside the trunk deck. Although it could even be rear frame mounted (seen that a couple times also!). Either way, it would likely have...

I certainly am no expert about these. But there is a considerable difference between 1910 and 1912 roadsters. I couldn't begin to name all the changes, but just having looked at dozens of photos of them, I can see numerous differences. The aforementioned steel clad 1912 bodies is just one thing. I have noticed changes in the back of the rear deck,...

I have often used modern bolts when I didn't have originals. That requires grinding and buffing away the modern markings, drilling cotter holes, stripping off the cad plating (paint won't stick to it), painting, and baking. But the cognoscenti will spot them because the modern heads are shorter. That's why I watch for cans of original hardware at...

I've welded the band and added a reinforced area on the outside covering the weld.

That is NOT a good idea. It's your brakes for goodness sake... fix them right.

The steel band is essentially in tension — you don’t think a butt weld and overlap reinforcement is going to pull apart?

I used the rebuild kit from Lang's with great success on my '26. The plastic is black and you really can't tell it's not wood until you touch it.
Went together quickly <1hr. Well worth the $70. The old wood I removed was cracked badly..... an ignition problem in the making.

Many thanks to Joss who lives close to
Jared & his family 👍

Joss came out Wednesday afternoon to
meet me as I unloaded - the plan was
to give driving lessons to Jared - but as
sometimes happens - the Model T didn’t
want to start 🤷‍♂️

Thanks to Rudy Nelson - my diesel mechanic
and my friend - in Winslow, AZ - for getting
the Model T running...

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What's on second.
Craig.

I have also heard mention of a device to hold the framework centered in place over the tappet bosses.
Craig

I believe you'd wind up going to a great deal of trouble and some expense to wind up with a modded-up body and chassis. I'd use the '20-ish body and the chassis you have. Since you've built a wood body, I'd think you'd be equipped and able to deal with re-wooding the 20-ish roadster body. With all that said, it seems to have become a trueism that...

That makes you more than special Steve! LOL

Thank you for the pictures. This clear things up well.

Then I wonder why a south Texas acquaintance always overheated after half hour of driving with a non reinforced long rubber inlet pipe ? Then, when we replaced that long rubber tube with a pipe from one of the vendors, the overheating discontinued. Difference in earth’s hemisphere ? 😜

Joe Bell does a great job. Cheers Bill

Jim, I dont see the average bear steam bending hardwood on a compound curve. I have not made roadster trim strips, but I do a lot of woodworking. I would consider making a stiff paper template using the roadster body to determine the shape. I would transfer the pattern onto thin strips of hardwood about 3/32 thick and glue up the strips using the...

That's just how it ought to be!
Beautiful photos.
Thanks
Rich

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Thanks for posting this cotter pin use chart.
I find even this trivia level of info very interesting & helpful to my T knowledge base.
Thats appreciation to any & all posting this sort of enlightening information.

I wish the trim for the door latches had more to bend over! There really isn't enough to do the job.

Who supplies John Regan's plastic coil box parts?
John's Fun Projects company was bought by the folks at Birdhaven. I've heard they've had trouble keeping his products in stock and have discontinued some, along with the website. I don't know the status of the coil box kit.

I do know that original bolts and contacts are superior to the...

Many thanks Scott, Steve and Dan. I greatly appreciate your quick responses. I'm tempted to go with bolts initially and replace them with the rivets when I get more time to disassemble the body parts blocking my path.

Thanks you all for your willingness to share.

Mike

Thanks for the tips! Stan

Think that machine is an early RollOverland.

Love it!!! :lol:

Thank you gents for all of the feedback
I am inclined to believe the hubs are custom made and I will find someone with lathe etc to make me a new one
I will go ahead and start using locktite on all of my hubs as I also lost a much more complicated hub on my 28 Buick

Will Snyders
Penn Valley, Ca

Thanks. Beautiful coupe!!

You're one of the good guys (of which there are many) Hank. Good to hear that you're stilling ginnin as we say in south Texas.

I tried to do a forum search to see if I could find the post I had made about that little can of cotter keys. It didn't come up. Perhaps someone else can find it.

If it's an original coil with the Ford large capacitor and the glass, I find it easiest to ease the side of the case off - the side opposite the terminals. You're going to scrap the capacitor, so just ease a blade down the side and force the joints apart.
The old glue is weak; I've never broken the wood.
Then you can pull out the capacitor and...

It might work, but the inlet is straight thread for flared pipe, so you would have to do a fitting in between the sediment bowl and I think 1/2 NPT in the tank. Sorry forgot about that.