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Need to confirm actual thickness and dimensions (Rockler)

What I would like real information on is when did Ford start offering starters and generators for 1919 open cars. The public isn't stupid, and there must have been a desire to get starters and generators on open cars when the debut was made. Of course, if you had the early style block and hogshead in your car, the change would be time consuming...

I would like to hear more about Stahl Magfixer. Experience people had with it.

Most helpful! Thanks to all who responded. Jim Patrick

I'll answer my own post. Yes they do and yes I can!
Lang's had one. I'm all set!

OK, so I did the reverse pressure bleed, then a week later, the old fashioned pump the pedal method to finalize the bleeding process. The pressure bleed got most air out and the pump got the last little bit out. So it's complete, I think. Now, when will I get to do a test drive? I wouldn't hold my breath....I rotate my time between 9 cars, all but...

I used Epifanes on my wheels when I had them respoked about 10 years ago. I applied several coats of Epifanes High Gloss Clear Varnish and then applied a final coat of Epifanes Woodfinish Matte.

The Matte is designed to be applied over the High Gloss Varnish.

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I like the tube sock idea, I may try that next time! :)

WHOOPS!! Tapped wrong screenshot!! :lol: :lol: :roll: I'll try again!! Thats what I get for not previewing!!

Makes perfect sense, thanks! :)

It doesn't appear your pickup has wide track axles?

Larry, you are correct (of course)! I fell into the trap of information pouring forth from an unknown source at the show. ha. Upon further consideration, the car has normal axles with a lot of toe-in on the front wheels. Plus the unique accessory spring throws people off.

Thanks for righting...

Nice pics Adam! Thank you. :)

This numbers matching question is only a US production Thing in 1912 75,000 T were made but only 6,000 were Canadian so the Canadian cars have matching numbers more so than the US cars . My 12 is matching numbers {engine and brass Dash plate} but you can not compare US cars to any other because of the difference in production numbers.

Go to your local monument maker. You know, they guys who make head stones. Ask them for a can of the sealer they use for their bronze markers. Some cemetery grounds keepers keep some too.

I worked in an instrument repair shop out of high school. I wouldn’t use instrument lacquer. It’s great for hand use generally but if you start stepping on it...

Ron,
Thanks or the info. Four years ago I guessed at the voltage. I used 4 d cell batteries at the time and it worked. I now have a very good laboratory grade dc power supply.
Art Mirtes 3

Michael Paul Smith's Flickr stream is still on line. It truly is amazing!

Brilliant, thank you.

Richard
Recent case bought a 14 speedster prodject in June
I got it running drove it 10+ miles put it for sale
Bought this speedster less then 5k
Added 1500 tires tubes ect
Posted this car needing paint uphoster at $7500
Long story short my 14 needed new wheels old ones loose
So first came a swap
Lowered the price 5k on the speedster not much...

That driveshaft has had it, I would suspect the pinion gear is also. The fit of the taper is as or more important than the key to keep it from spinning and shearing the key again. The gear should lock down on the shaft even without a key in place and not rock....

This is true. One thing I do is lap every gear/shaft so they hold on their own as...

That's unusual, but I don't doubt it.

I purchased my present roller timer from Lang's about six years ago. It replaced the roller timer that was installed on my '27 when I bought the car. As was posted earlier, the rollers were fine, but the insulated surface upon which the rollers contact was seriously deteriorated. The T immediately ran better and continues to run better to the...

If it gets loose again, you might be able to carefully stake it with a sharp punch.

Great pictures Tom, I just gave blood this morning and drove my Fordor. Extreme need eveywhere, if you can please donate.

I don't know how their business model works, but another member a while back mentioned a site called The Wayback Machine which contains an archive of old defunct web pages. Stan Howe's old Ruckstell and Stromberg pages are stored there. I don't know whether Stan made arrangements to put them there (I doubt it). :)

Russ Furstnow is the go to for me.

Try putting an ad in the classified section,

Have a great trip Allan (& Nancy?)
Fond memories of our previous trip there and driving in your T!
We have 3 Model T runs coming up prior to Christmas. Two in the country and one metro next weekend.
Alan in Western Australia

My first visit to Lassen was 38 years after the 1914 eruption. There were still boiling springs and mud pots of the Yellowstone type, and there still are today, 107 years after the eruption.

Use whoever is convenient, but make sure your part will not leave their building until you pick it up! Many plating shops lack certain critical abilities, and will ship your parts to make up the difference. They make it sound safe and easy, or often completely fail to mention at all!

I use Sherms Plating here in Sac when the parts can’t be...

What impresses me the most is that he works in flip flops.

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Seamus, thanks much for keeping us up to date with developments, those of us who are sold on the prospect appreciate it greatly. Here's hoping all is well, and things progress as hoped. :D

I went thru the invoices from when this transmission was worked on in 2012… bushings, washers, pins, bands etc. but no drum lug shoes. Safe to assume I reused what was in there at the time, most likely since day one.

In hindsight, there were smarter ways to save $15. I was probably lucky to get nine good years and many thousands of miles out of...

Just to clear the air the one that appeared to be sold 2 weeks ago did not sell, at least not to me. The seller agreed on our price but never communicated after I sent him my address and request on how to pay.

Ed aka #4

Rich/Keith

it was the 2017 tour. I assumed from the bitter comments in 2010 made by friends that attended, that the hotel would not be the same one...thus my REPEATED questions to organizers about the grade and the assurances that it would not be a problem. It was a bitter and expensive disappointment to abandon the tour after 1 day having...

Good information and thanks. I was thinking the instrument panel was metal as I had some in my parts in my barn and so I used one. It would be interesting to see one of those leather covered instrument panels. I’ve seen a lot of T’s over the years at swap meets and some shows but never one with the leather covered wood panel. I guess I missed...

Larger diameter tires will require more brake pedal pressure. Braking force is minimal at best due to there being only rear wheel brakes. Backing down a steep grade would allow the car to develop more braking force, at least until the brake burned up or something broke. Steering with reversed caster can get interesting, too.

I would not have guessed the piece at right. However, when assembling the high speed clutch discs, one large disc had 2 missing portions just that size missing just next to external notches for the brake drum lugs. As I had never seen that before, I suspected someone may have tried to improve it with a grinder. It didn't look broken and there were...

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Toon

Nice set sent this morning!

Oh, a Tesla Model Three (3), not a Tesla Model T!

Not every T engine rebuild is a holy resurrection out of a well-known builder's shop and some rebuilds absolutely can start to knock at this kind of mileage. Twisted rods knock from the beginning...not after 4K miles.

Jeffrey

do some searches on the MTFCA forum on taking up rods. When you finally pull the inspection plate, you will find all 4...

Joe, thanks for asking, we don’t have the glass channel for either door. Let me know what you have and I’ll email you.
Thanks John

Many emailed me regards to how I straightened the frame on my T with the body in place a year back. As you can see, it is no different with the body on than with out the body. I merely used a 4” x 6” x 12’ wood beam instead of the metal beam shown here. Look at how and where the beam is strapped on to the frame and the Jack is slid to where the...

Is there another page with the R and the D?

I watched a video recently in which the owner of a 1910 Pierce was asked how fast it would go. His reply: 45 or more, but I only have brakes for 32. 'nuff said!

The crutches/doctor pic ...... why do the tires look clean and dry ?

Something does not add up .... 🤔

Summer is over for me. Spent a day bringing in wood from the
woodlot for the shop stove. The last cord or so, I leave on the truck
and just park it there in the shop as a ready source. This winter the
engine will come out for a freshening, so it was just time to wrap
up the fun and games and get down to business. When spring comes
around, I...

I got a set of these from Lang's last winter. I have not installed them yet.

Paul

Micaela
Welcome aboard.
If you would like to learn more about different sociocultural Model T contexts go to a resource very near to you; The Bruce McCalley Memorial Library and Research Center at MTFCA HQ in Richmond Indiana.
Forty years ago I set out to collect every known Ford related book I could find (I had to forego periodicals or be...

I know i have too but I ran across a part Langs sells for the straight thru float, a hinge. I wasn't aware of a difference. Part number 6201NHS, kinda pricey too.

Thanks a million!

I agree with Scott Conger. My '27 has a 50-50 mixture of antifreeze and water. Cooling is not an issue, in fact it wouldn't bother me if it ran 10 degrees warmer. If a antifreeze/water mixture (as opposed to straight water) will make the difference between running at a proper temperature and overheating, your cooling system (or perhaps fuel/air...

You can obtain dimensional drawings of the ignition coil from the Benson Ford Research Center in Dearborn.
Ford made Trembler coil boxes were made of Hard Maple.

To my knowledge TT front wheels are the same as the car, so a 21 inch rim would be a 4.40/4.50-21 tire. Yes, a wider tire can be installed on the rim if you can find them. I just put a set of USA made Firestones on my model T, they are big...wider and taller. They are marked 4.40/4.50-21, but they must be 4.75-21 or bigger, so if you are unable to...

Still have a working mag. I'll see if I can get a look at the magnets thru the hogshead cover.

Oddball carbs, auxiliary transmissions and T accessories wanted! I'll be there!

I can't help with hub caps but I can bring a Model T into the conversation. During the magical time I was building my Speedster (1966 or so) our friend John would stop by in his Crosley Super Sport to check the progress. It was an enchanting time for him too as he only drove it a few years. It was a 1951 or 52 I believe. I could ride with him and...

yup........

Steve Jelf, I was told just yesterday that it’s free to enter New Jersey but it costs you to leave. :lol:

Thank you for the lead on the old adds .Still looking for any information or copies of an original owner/ operator manual or whatever have you on this style transmission, thank you

The Ted Ashman layout(vintage ford) on aux transmissions was all I found for reference. If you find something new, I would be interested. As it is, I have enough pix...

Tom, if Zinc will work, there is a small place up by me I can put you in touch with. He likes small jobs , is cheap and does a nice job. He has a tumbler plater for small nuts and bolts, too. The big cad platers nearby are too busy to consider small jobs. You have my email

Steven, put a piece of paper towel between the clamp and the body being glued. If the glue uses out it won’t glue the clamp to the body. Just my .02 cents.
Frank

I use wax paper rather than paper towels. It makes cleanup easier in my opinion.

Frank,

At that point...switch failed.

Mag post to terminal strip screw (+)
Terminal strip screw to switch mag screw (+)
Switch out to coil box (-)
Turn switch to BAT, switch out to coil box terminal (+)

So...that ledge to switch contcacts...

1922 or so Packard possibly.

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In addition to the 2 seals on each side, I add another seal, which is altered, outboard of the inner bearing sleeve. The seal modification involves a notch cut into the OD of the seal. The notch is oriented so that is in the bottom position. This seal serves as a labyrinth. The notch allows any oil that gets past this seal to flow back to the...

Dan that would be awesome. Thanks

Hi OliyBill, I figured out why you were having problems and they have been corrected. Please let me know if you have any problems or questions. You can call me directly at Five Six 3.387.373 six. Dave

Good 1 Jim.
Ron has done 2 sets of coils for me and they have been trouble free.

If they steer using the rear single runner the vehicle would have had a tendency to swap ends if you oversteer, much like a taildragger airplane. Altogether not the greatest design.

I'll take another whack at this dead horse. :)

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The arrow points to the part that goes toward the rear of the car.

Langs was out pre-Hershey, (just out of stock, it happens) so I was able to purchase some from the Model T and A parts vendor in the Red Field adjacent to the stadium grandstands. Can not remember whom they are, but had them along to the show that week.

That would be Mader’s They are in Virginia. They have no website and only do two events a...

My observation has been that a person with physical challenges who really wants to do something, will usually find a way to do it. A very good friend of mine contracted Polio in the pre-Salk vaccine days of the mid-50s. He has used crutches braces on his legs all of his adult life. When he passed his driver's test he was restricted to an automatic...

Will the solid matter from port-a-potties work as filler.., it is practice! Asking for a friend. Mask are extra or free as you go into Walmart.., shop frequent and save.

I have to say I would have concerns with that much lacquer thinner. That stuff is very flammable. Just a good shop vac with a brush attachment & maybe followed by some compressed air works fine.

thanks for all the help. I tried most of the methods suggested and the winner was the razor blade between the bolt and case. It got it moving just enough to get a drywall spatula in there and then it worked its way out.

I also have both meters except both are KR Wilson. Never knew exactly how they worked.

I use a KC Warford in my 1914 Touring and I use the support listed in Lang’s catalog. It’s a little expensive and I’m sure I could make something similar but I needed it in a hurry. While there is no requirement to provide support at the end of the Warford, I was concerned that the mass hanging at the back of the tranny was just too much. No sums,...

Only in the USA do we park cars worth tens of thousands of dollars out in the weather and fill our garages up with worthless junk. :roll:

Measure the voltage at the cutout battery terminal with the engine not running.

Start the engine and measure the voltage with a fast idle.

You should see about 1.5 volts increase, depending on how fully charged the battery is or how high the generator output voltage is.

If the voltage is the same or less, the cutout or generator may be...

I paid 11 for my 1920 and this one is in better shape then mine, so you can use that as a starting point. The 1923 is worth more than my 1920. Also depends on how well she runs and if you know if the rear axle has been updated.

Adore all the roads seen here.

Went on a tour yesterday, some of the rout was on a highway with a 65MPH speed limit so the tour speed was between 35 & 45 MPH with a Temp. of close to 100* by the end of the tour. The first thing I noticed was my motometer no longer works. Engine never got up to 200* by the gauge it was nice to know under those conditions. Steve would like to...

I thought we had to be full into winter before we start suffering from cabin fever and begin seeing images of Henry Ford appearing in our coffee, on our toast, and peeking out of our whisky glasses? :D

Frank,
I'm a little curious about how the runner (body to frame bracket) is attached to the floor. From the other picture it looks like there is an angle cut

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In the next couple of days I will take this one apart and take a look keeping in mind what you have written. It would be nice to save this unit. My wife thinks it is very special because it is made by “Tiffany”. Lol. I don’t have the nerve to tell her it’s probably not the company she thinks it is.

It is not the same Tiffany as in jewelry (...

Thank you very much for the reply and the photo.
Tom

Aftermarket...used for any number of updraft carbs where interference with a generator is not an issue. The bottom one is commonly found with Meyer updraft carbs.

If you ever sell them, I'd be interested.

The original pricing is listed for every Moreland year in the Encyclopedia .

I've been passing on all your tricks to my 16 year old.