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Now, aren't you glad you didn't go about recharging magnets? ;)

Sounds like you have or had an intermittent short in the mag post. If it happens again, at least you won't wig out and should have a plan of action already to go.

Get rid of that waterpump! You obviously don't need it! 15 million T's where made without them.

Michael, Could you be a bit more specific please? 😊

You wrote somewhere that you have a waterpump on your car.

Model T's did not have waterpumps from factory (except for the first 2500 back in 1908).

Somebody have dome symptom treating by adding...

A 26-7 trans cover may bolt on an 11 but the pedal shafts will not align with the bands. If you change the whole trans to make the bands line up with the pedal shafts, the pan will not fit due to the wider brake band. Staying with any of the earlier parts without the wide brake drum gets around these complcations.

Allan from down under.

The irony here is the same people that want pre-atomic metal so it isn’t radioactive are using microwaves and 5G iPhones both of which bombard the user with dangerous cancer causing levels of radiation!

A few years ago we had to attend a family event in December in Moses Lake Wa. We flew up there and rented a car to the hotel. There was ice on the roads. In the morning, we got up and the sun was out, however, it didn't get over about 20 degrees and the ice didn't melt all day. To me, who has lived 85 years in southern California, it was very...

26-27 floor boards were painted black at the factory, what particular black paint is up to you. I had good results with water based enamel from Home Depot.

With the holes around the perimeter of that rubber draft protector, likely there was a metal frame too, most accessory pieces had a frame. Or sometimes just padded artificial leather pieces. Many types were made for the Ford.

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I guess that makes it even more incorrect! Not incorrect, just a different way to do it. ;)

That's Fred Hoch in/on his Mercer Raceabout. It is said, What Fred doesn't know about Mercers isn't worth knowing . After the car show we had the thrill of seeing him blaze down Hersheypark Drive.

A soak in 10% pickling vinegar would help remove rust. I don't know what it would do to the dial face and odometer numerals.

I saw those too, not Model A, no dipper on the big end, and journal end is too small.

I wonder why they used the word “expedition “ in the article instead of conference.

May be a check of word use in 1915 may be a start as to why use the word “expedition “ in the article instead of conference.

From a 1913 Websters Dictionary that is on line: (

Expedition

Ex`pe*di tion (?), n. 1. The quality of being expedite; efficient...

THANKS to all for there information.!!!
Is there a remote possibility any one would have a 39 tooth they would part with ?

I agree with Anthony's method. If front linkage is in good condition, I recommend 1/32 to 1/4 inch toe in. Keep in mind that one turn on the tie rod changes the toe in by about .22 inches.
Art Mirtes

Neat picture of a years ago. Makes me wonder what happened over time to the eagle over the entrance door! Is it still there?

If you click on the quotation mark, it will copy the whole post to your reply like I just did.
I would rather see them quote only the relevant part of a post, as I just did. :)

Scott- I was simply passing on a warning that was given to me by a knowledgeable and well-known and respected person who posts on this forum often.

Are you saying that Stutzman will not sandblast and paint your rims and hubs?

Not a body shop.

I’ll report back in after this weekend when I have time to dive further into this project. I thought retirement meant I would have full time to work on my cars. Was I ever wrong…😊

Yeah, leaving pure water in your engine is not a good thing if you live in an area that goes below freezing. I drain my Ts usually, I have fresh 50/50 antifreeze in my 1909 after I cleaned the radiator a few weeks ago, but I still have an urge to drain it. We blow out our lawn sprinkler systems in mid October for the same reasons due to freezing...

As this thread has progressed, I have grown suspicious of some aspects & did my homework.
The original statement is incorrect. The vendors have a warning about using with a Z head specifically, Not high compression heads. My older silicone gaskets have a similar warning. Understandable. Z heads are known to blow out copper gaskets also.

The...

Adding to Frank’s list of wire wheel links...

The body under the deck or pickup box is the same. The pickup box over hangs the body structure .

Sorry I misunderstood stretching of the axle. I have read about stretching valve stems by peening, so that is what I was thinking. I just did not connect the dots between that word and what Scott said.
Thanks
Reading the post, I see a couple of ways to go now. As I said in an earlier post, the wire wheel hubs came from 2 different sources, so...

Am in the belief that Ford continued to remove wood pieces from the Improved Open cars where he could.

On later open bodies, the floorboard riser has tabs to retain the lower portion of the cowl kick cardboard panel.

And same at the top, that is reason for the single tab there, fit the panel under that tab, flexing the panel under after fitting...

Thanks Frank,
That seems to bear out what I believed was the case.

Allan from down under.

Ruining a good block would be a terrible thing to do. However, your foot might grow back just fine!

About a year ago, I limped for about two weeks when I dropped something heavy and stuck my foot between it and the concrete floor! It wasn't an engine block, can't remember now what it was? But I did save it from being broken! (The model T part,...

There is a related conversation on a Classifieds thread. Since those time out and disappear after awhile, I thought perhaps this much of it should be copy and pasted here where they can remain and be considered for further discussion.
I am still trying to learn more about our model Ts, and Canadian model Ts in particular. Personally, I have...

Thanks Steve, yes this is the original chart I based the update on. The update (in the gallery) uses this and has extra information added where I could get it from, still leaving some 'yellow cell gaps' and some errors to correct.
The original was put together back in '09 by Joe Boyers and Robert Ducharme.
Cheers, Adrian

That's a fine job on the wagon. Nice H, too... but a TT would be nicer...

back to the top

frontyboy

This is a simple set up, I have a speedster which has for the last 50 plus years had such a system. never fails.

hand pump connected to the neck of the fuel tank, connected by copper tube. with a low pressure gauge inserted. pump is in floor.
Pump up to 1 to 2 PSI. Sometimes if I drive a big distance I might have to get the wife to do a few more...

Wow, thank you for the posts, lots of great options!

Thanks RV, Perry, and Russ. Don Lang can bring it to Chickasha, Lang's is planning on a space there in 2022.
I just posted in case a member had some trunk space that was heading west.

Ya just never know, it's a small world. Lots of us Model T guys and gals out there!

Like all of us, once...

Tarik,

Keep it simple to start with. You can always add as you feel the car and you as one!

Rock On Man!

Hank

Thanks for the info about the differential , the drums and rims are what I was after ,now to luck into a set for the front , lol !! the springs don’t look familiar to me , and not sure what the crossmember is from , think it’s bigger than a tt , possibly an A ? At any rate , I will most likely never own a ‘15 , but the rear differential will go...

The last one I saw on Ebay similar to that one sold for $125.

T bezel was brass and not shiny like that one.

Hoyt made it.

I still have it in the box.

It's a problem with any type of car. Dust, mouse filth, lint, pollen, leaves, dander, bird poop, mud and more accumulate in such places, which are rarely cleaned out, if ever. If a car is exposed to salt, it will find its way to those areas and join up with the other crud to attack the metal and wood and draw moisture. When I get a old vehicle, I...

Jonah

you need to measure the top of the radiator (180F) and the bottom of the radiator (not the bottom of the engine). There is no coolant circulating in the engine down there, and it is far away from the source of heat. 80F is not a real indication of the cooling capacity of the radiator and I do not believe there is any way you're getting a...

I had a set of the 1926/27 so called RM's, some of the earlier reproduction ACs (not orginal). I don't know how I screwed up the installation, because they seemed to work good both ways. :lol:
I have given thought it was the type of lining that was on them that helped. Another set, on a 1925, with the light colored lining, are absolute sh## for...

Had timer linkage disconnect once. Acted like this. Maybe a simple fuel line obstruction.
You can bet it will be something stupid simple when you get your hands on it.

Most likely. I’m inclined to agree.

John, your observations and sentiments are mine too!

For a refreshing change to this, I contacted WL FULLER last week about ordering some very specialized screwdriver blades off of their website of which none of their retailers carried. I spoke to L. Fuller, a 4th generation descendant, who was happy to sell me what I needed. I remarked about how...

If it doesn't make any noise, use it.

thanks much

Shown in Volumn XXVII, page 51...

It was popular enough when new that Stewart had to sue the American Auto Supply Company around 1915 to stop using the off-an-on tire tool name...

so there is that...

Thanks for the info Scott

Yes. seen it done. Make sure it clears the coil box lid. My feeble memory says it can be placed out on a terminal post. Dont quote me on this. Might be worth confirm/deny. In fact, A coil wizard will be visiting . Ill ask directly.

I did speak with my coil genus. Must be connected between upper & lower points. If you want to drill a hole or...

A decade or two ago, I got a small bundle of black era shells with a pickup truck load of model T parts I bought. In that bundle of shells, was one that had quite apparently never had a script on it. It was in fairly nice condition, but obviously some years old. In addition to the no script, there were a couple other slight variations from real...

Cherished salvage sounds like the cover we get with Shannon's insurance here in Australia. If an old car is written off, the wreck is retained by the owner, to do with as wanted. The high cost of workshop repairs often makes the car an economic write off, but we all know we can often make the repairs ourselves as part of a re-restoration. In fact,...

Several beat me to it! Yesterday, I drove the car down to the Alpine Historical Museum. The owner of this old house built in 1896 wanted to drive the car! Historical Society Museun T pictures 002.JPG Historical Society Museun T pictures 003.JPG

I got my first T at the age of30. I am now 70 and consider myself knowledgeable about Model T's. When I first got my Ford, I would ask my older brother a question and his reply would always be, 'did you read your Dyke's Manual?' I would then say no, and he would then say 'go read the manual'. After asking enough questions and receiving the same...

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Well, that didn't take any time at all...

Good eye, Jim!

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I'm working on changing out the old glass in a 1927 Canadian Tudor so dashed to the workshop to measure up the glass thicknesses.

The Driver's & Passenger's door glass measure up at 0.255 and the windshield shows 0.169 .

The door glass is likely original as they match each other and pretty well agree with the mention of 1/4 original glass....

Thanks for everybody's help, turns out it was just a loose wire.

Thanks for the update.

I had to mill it to clean it up and address for the bigger intake valves and 280 cam, valves touched side of head.

Should I just hold the points down on the coils instead?

I accidentally shorted #4 coil while the engine wasn’t running I think I fried it. :( Edit: it seems to work fine still.

No matter how fast I run the engine and what coil I hold down, I can’t get her to knock.

Edit: Seems to be when #2 and #3 coils are held down she knocks loudly. Bad...

Mike, Yes, give me the information you referred to. Thanks.

For my tool kit, after removing rust and grease, I painted with black rustoleum paint. When the paint was dry, I used 0000 steel wool to remove the paint gloss, leaving a nice matte finish. The results were, to my eye, very satisfactory. You probably already have a partial can of rattle paint, and the steel wool, so test this method on your band...

One thing I dislike on this forum is guesses! If you never worked on a steering column then you should not post guesses. I've worked on several, both brass era, and nickel. I've not measured the exact distance, but the plating goes down quite a ways into the tube, but doesn't go beyond the end of the tube. As far as I know no year Ford has plating...

Thanks everyone. Will see how the leak test goes and I will update then.

Richard, which is the driver's side? It can be either left or right. If you need to get that technical, you need to refer to left and right side, rather than drivers and passenger sides.
Allan from down under, where we drive on the left side of the road :)

Thanks for the responses. For all I know, this T may be ready to go with just a good checkup. The new owner said the coils buzz when he tests them from the battery. He couldn't hear them buzz when turning the car over with the starter, but I suspect that may be because he can't hear them due to the sound of the starter. He also wasn't aware that...

I can't remember what size weather strip I got other than I had to slice it in half to fit, took the lid off, ran it all around and hasn't leaked since.

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Thank you Erik J! I thought that looked like Robert C H's work. But somehow I didn't think of his RCH.

Thank you. I revised it. It starts tonight at 10:00 pm est. Jim Patrick

Jerry is right on! It's a vent.

Ed aka #4

Update.
This mourning I made a trip to a real hardware store.(McMaster like) & found a couple 90 degree flair gas valves. 1, a good replacement for the Texas T front pan 3/8 flair ell. A second with a 1/2 flair ell for my improved set up on the 14. The 14 pan inlet is into the dipper cover in front of &1 dip. I did not butcher an original pan...

Buy it!!! A good starting point to go forward from. The journey to your 1rst ride down the road should be a fun one. Don't rush. Savor and enjoy!!!

The Model T cattle prod idea was very effective in getting kids
on the bus in my day. I am fortunate, as an employer, to have the
kind of environment where employees are motivated by the team
and mission. But I speak with a lot of fellow employers who complain
endlessly about younger folks thinking they should get a check, simply
for breathing on...

For all you do i say thank you!!! Bud :D

according to their newsletter should be some information soon.

Tim

Tadpole, Well that explains it :) Thanks for posting it.

:lol: Tim, I can't decide if you've gone to the dark side, or seen the light :lol:
I guess a purist leopard can change his spots after all !! :lol: :lol:

The purist position always applies :roll: but if the T is not being driven at night there isn't any need to change anything. :o
If there is a concern about the battery being overcharged...

Also, the sign on the back of the car might or might not be a lead to follow up. If you can see what it says, please let us know.

Respectfully requested,

Hap l9l5 cut off

Bump for the rained-in weekend experts. I would even appreciate the direction to go to a book, if any, to do my own research. Cheers and thank you.

Where is the Prus head available?

Advertised in the vintage ford. IMO best head available. Not as high compression as claimed. Dont let that scare you off it.
There have been recent discussions regarding high compression heads here. Search Prus.

Excellent questions for reflection, Pat !

It's difficult territory. All model Ts have a perceived market value . Supply and demand, as with everything, control the monetary range. Why are any of us invested in them ?? Expenditures of treasure, talent and especially time, are always made in expectation of some form of gratification. Fiscal net...

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Looking at the last picture posted by Mark the center hood rod is not in the rod support notch and is holding the hood above the radiator.

Another tornado picture

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Wayne, I too am often amazed at those who survived total wrecks. It appears drivers and Mechanicians were best off being thrown clear of the debris and shrapnel from a crash. I'm somewhat amused (is that the correct word?) when modern venues require vintage machines to have seat belts. The last thing I want to do is ride it out with a skeleton...

I here the term clincher rim often and didn’t know the difference.
Go back to the link I posted yesterday at 11:39 PM.

Thanks for that information page!
It was my Eureka moment 😂

The crossover time between the 1913 style body which ended early due to its inherent weaknesses and the early introduction of the 1914 style produced a lot of '13 style bodies with '14 style windshields as well as 1914 style bodies with 1913 style windshields. I sometimes wonder which they made more of? However I am sure that Ford sold a thousand...

Mike,

The tester is on a stand with wheels, but I don't think they'd hold up to highway speeds....

Part number T-2576. Brass French Head screw, #7 , in 1/2 length. That it a countersunk single slot headed screw with oval like head.

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Yes, 1923 was the only year the angled Utah appeared on the left side of the license plate (White on Red). I see the wishbone above the front axle making the car making the Hack at least 5 years old.
In 1925 10 GMC and 10 White buses were introduced into Bryce according to MOTOR COACH AGE magazine Feb. 1970.
Those Fords pulled a lot of weight in...

I remember this thread. I even responded. It escaped my memory. Must not be think'en! Definitely, brain dead!

Thank you, all who have responded. I, at this point, have enough information to build one except the wood. Remember the treewood, firewood and driftwood saga. Oak has to be the choice.

Again, thankyou
John.

Scott,
Great idea! I’ll definitely use that one.
Thanks

I search model t lifters in ebay. 69 possible come up. Most not material. Here is an item #. 172859881656 Seller is hdhummer.

Awesome! Thanks!!

Nurex has negative ground diode cut-outs. www.nurex.com

Snyder's sells Nurex

I’m trying to find one also.

I am sorry I missed your post. Thank you so much for the kind words! I look forward to be a long time member and getting my T restored and on the road.