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Steve sent me a mssg and he made it home this evening. I suspect he got side tracked a little on Old Route 66. Told him to crash and sleep late, he deserves it.

What date did Ford begin the new model year circa 1920/1921?

I would like to bring my 1912 commercial Roadster closer to original condition. However, the idea of using Calcium Carbide as a source of illumination gas seems daunting and messy. Are there any alternatives to the original set up? Is it possible to use either a Prestolite tank or Coleman camp fuel to serve as a more viable and workable solution?

We are in the process of moving from NH to North Carolina and I am putting the 19 T and 31 A into storage until we have a place for them in NC. When we have a place I’ll have freighter Jim handle the trip. It took me awhile to find a place because the T is 7 ft 2 inches tall and will not fit thru a standard door.
Last week started the T and...

Engine/Block 4321900 Search: Looking for my 1920 original engine or block. Possibly in Illinois or Central NY/Utica, NY areas. Thanks! Kevin
Email: KvMoc@aol.com
Phone: 315-672-3473

OCF operatives have provided photographic evidence

Hi all,
My wife and I inherited a 22 T Touring from her late father. I know that this car used to start/run on magneto. By the time we got it, it had been sitting for about three years, and her father had added a distributor. The car starts and runs on battery and electric starter, but I can’t get it to run when switching over to magneto. Do you...

On my '26 the rear hood latch's went on slick. The fronts are an issue. The springs that came with the kit are too long to even fit/compress between the c shaped frame rail.
Am I to cut a few rounds of the spring off?

I have three of the same spoke wheels and one odd on my '26 project.
Three wheels measure approx 22 inches from demountable mounting bolts going from 9 o'clock to 3 o'clock.
One wheel measures approx 19+ inches going from 9 o'clock to 3 o'clock mounting bolt to mounting bolt.

Can someone please educate me on spoked demountable wheels? What am I...

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I am looking for a usable headlight door for one of the Victor 2 gas headlights on the 1914 runabout.

Can some one help me?

(This is also posted on the parts part of the forum)

Thanks
Andre
Belgium

Saw this Monday and drug it home. Might get some tie rod ends and bolts, a couple of motor mounts, pair of spindles...and 2 wood spoke hubs with good caps. Oh, also the Hayes wheels. Don't really need them but didn't want them scrapped or gone into the ground. Caps and centers are good, wheels can be saved but cut off rims and tossed them. Yes I...

Found this rod in a bucket of core rods. Anyone know what it fits?
No marks on it anywhere that I see.
C to C distance looks to be same as T, but pin diameter is 1.5 inches. Thanks Dan
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I have a brass Nonpareil horn on my car. The rivets that hold the bracket to the horn itself are loose enought to allow the horn to ratlle up and down while driving. Is there a good way to tighten these up without unsoldering the horn and taking it apart? Suggestions appreciated, thanks, Bill

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I’ve been talking to a guy who says the late T’s..26/27 didn’t have the 2 piece valves like the earlier T’s did. Is there any truth to this ? Are the 2 piece valves easy to spot? The only way I’ve known is by the 2 holes in the valve head for the lapping tool.

Is everyone making or buying the card inserts for the model T coupe (not sure what you call them).

Ok guys, im finally up to painting. I've spoken to a few paint shops and I have a 2 directions I can go. 1 place said to use a 2k jet black base and a 2k clear. The other place said as its my first time spraying and I'm doing it in the garage he recommended using a single stage black acrylic as it won't get as glossy as the 2k and should look more...

Somehow my ignition key came out of the switch while driving and disappeared. I was test driving my 27 without the floorboards. I looked on the roads I drove and I didn't find it. So I need to buy a replacement key. Here's the rub. I don't recall the number stamped on the key and the tumbler has a number 1 stamped on it. I always thought the...

FYI. After two years of research I have established contact with the roll former who produced the 21” drop center rims that were used to produce McLaren 21” wire wheels that use 4.50x21 tires like those used on 28-29 Model A’s. There are quite a few T members who have these wheels and swear by the softer ride of a 32psi tire and the added benefit...

Hi everyone! I had heard Stan Howe passed away a few months back, a great loss to the hobby! I had emailed him just before covid and he mentioned he had a written book on the Stromberg OF to purchase. Does anyone have a copy or maybe an idea where I might be able to purchase the manual?
Thanks
Matt

Can someone tell me if the clam shell rivets had been brazed on the inside from factory?

FYI. After two years of research I have established contact with the roll former who produced the 21” drop center rims that were used to produce McLaren 21” wire wheels that use 4.50x21 tires like those used on 28-29 Model A’s. There are quite a few T members who have these wheels and swear by the softer ride of a 32psi tire and the added benefit...

About 18 years ago I acquired a Performance T Parts camshaft from a fellow T-er (who has since passed). At that time, I sat it on the shelf for future use. PTP was owned by the late Ralph Reeder who passed away about 2010. I believe some of the PTP stock may have been taken over but Texas T Parts. It appears to be a re-ground cam as opposed to a...

Would anyone have a list of replacement bearings for this transmission?

Hello! Once again I come to the MTFCA gurus for help.

We are having an odd problem with our T and would love some fresh thoughts.

The car:
- 1927 touring, with a 1923 engine.
- Fresh rebuild of rear axel and engine. Didn’t fully open up the transmission, but did install new kevlar bands, and the clutch discs were all cleaned and inspected....

I have a non electric 23 roadster that has 30x3 square fellow non demountable wheels on the front and 30x3 1/2 on square fellow non demountable wheels on the back. What should it have to be correct? Some say 30x3 1/2 steel fellow non demountables all the way around…..boy the wheels on the car look like that have always been with the car. Opinions...

I found a can full of axle/hub knocker removers...
Several are larger than the T axle and I figured maybe one or more might be TT.
What is the size at the hub of a TT axle ?
I saw nothing on a search.

I just discovered a large Model T auction this Saturday September 11 in Knox PA 9:30 am by Rankin Auction Service. Many cars, hacks and tons of parts. Engines, frames, wheels, rear ends etc. It's worth going too the auction site just to see what is shown in the pictures.
I have no connection with this auction I just wanted to share what I found.

Newbie here, both to Model T’s and to these forums, and this is my first post. I’ve successfully used the search function for several other issues, but I haven’t been successful in finding much on repairing the ignition switch.

I’ve had my 1925 Express Wagon for a couple of months now, and the engine runs fine on battery, but won’t run on...

when I shifted my KC Warford fron 2nd to 3rd I could hear a different whining from the overdrive. It did not alarm me but it was different and I wanted to know if that is normal or is something wrong? Thanks again for all your comments.

Ron

It is really coming together enough to start putting the tank on. Unfortunately the pre-cut Lang's block do not fit my tank. The tank is very oval at a steeper angle. So my choices are cut my own or somehow pack the wood block angle with some material. The wood mounts I have also won't mount to the floorboard without blocks under it. I think I...

During our Fiddle & Folk Fest, (fiddle and folk.com), we set up the truck to be our ‘open mic’ stage. Added stairs to the back, parked and chocked, added speakers and the mic and we had a very successful area for folks to sing their hearts out!
I loved all the instruments in the shade under the truck. Good use for my old TT.

Just got off the phone with Steve. Car has been running fine all day today with just an occasional hiccup. Traveled from Springfield Ill via US54 through Missourah. Passing Lake of the Ozarks (me) with two hours of daylight left he turned off US54 at Camdenton Mo, went south to Lebanon Mo for the night. Tomorrow he’ll take Route 66 to Springfield...

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In the 33 years I have owned my Model A I have read numerous articles regarding safety issues with original fans cracking at the rivets and possibly flying apart. My Model A did in fact have a cracked fan. The Model A world has numerous replacement options.

There does not appear to be the same problem with the Model T and 3 vendor sites I have...

Sept. 18-19 will be the dates for the 51st.annual AACA swap meet in Loveland, Colorado ... this is Colorado's largest swap meet and usually has a good variety of vehicles and parts ...location is at the Ranch ( Larimer County Fair grounds ) on I-25 near Loveland ,Colorado ... i will have a 27 coupe body/frame ,my babbitt tools and linebore units...

Just saw this on Facebook Hope this post shows up .
Steve is currently in Springfield I’ll.

Where on the factory ‘25 Pickup beds would I find the Ford stamping in the metal?
I would think somewhere on the mounting brackets?
I have an early bed(without Ford script embossed on the tailgate)it’s very nice with about 65% original paint and the rest light to medium surface rust.
I would like to gently clean the area of stamping so I don’t...

What is the length of the standard rear axle shaft. This would be the one with the tapered end with a key for the hub. VS the length of a Wide Track shaft? This would be the length from the differential to the end of the shaft for one side of the axle.
Norm

I have only looked closely at 12-15 Model T blocks over the years and have noted how crooked the numbers stamped on some are and how straight they are on others I assume depending on how rushed or experienced the worker on the assembly line was at the time.

Since Ford was picky about speed on the assembly line at what point did workers stop using...

So my left rear fender is tilted. Is the hanger causing this? It seems like the end should be parallel to the ground. If so do I bend the hanger by hammering it on an anvil or some other method? I tried to bend a front fender hanger before, it did not go well.

Motor Age for 1922 presented an article that included passenger car serial number from 1913 to 1920, cars from the ACE to the Winther. The purpose of the article was assist insurance companies in the recovery of stolen cars and a discussion for standard numbering of automobile motor and chassis numbers.

It was in 1916 that the SAE engine division...

Was working in my shop today and this came off of my lathe...

it's about 5/8 long and 9/16 diameter

Does anyone know what it is?

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The parts were scrambled when this went to the painter and I may be missing parts. I am wondering how this goes back together? The forks go onto the rear spring U bolts, then the Y shaped part goes face up on the triangle mount? The two brackets go on to the top of the Y? What fastener attaches the two brackets? What goes on to the bottom of the...

I just got word Steve is OK and got his car going for now. I am happy to say the response to a need is awesome in here. This group goes the extra mile more than any I have seen.

Steve is on his way back to Kansas, no side trips this time. Having maybe some trouble with his Regan type magneto charging system using 1156 bulb. Normally when engine is shut down bulb turns off. This time the bulb remains on at shut down. He has unplugged the bulb so nothing runs down.
Question: What’s going on here ??
Steve is currently in...

I’m looking for a detailed picture of the horn button and wiring in the center of the steering column. Would prefer a picture of original car or a factory picture showing that particular detail. Anybody have anything that would show that detail?
Thanks!

I placed my order yesterday morning and received it this morning! Not only did Snyder’s have everything I needed, but FedEx did their job too! I figured, seeing it was a rear axle and an long box, I’d be lucky to see the order in 3 or 4 days. Not so.
Kudos to both company’s for a real good job!

Uncommon Allen HCCT on eBay.
This one has an Allen manufactured flywheel, not a Ford flywheel.
I believe this was sold as a complete HCCT.
Allen also sold a HCCT kit to which you would add a Ford flywheel/magnet assembly and a magneto field coil.

 
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I know some of you may have seen my 1910 touring project at the OCF, but I wanted to share some photos on the forum because so many of you have been instrumental in helping me get it finished. It's been a four year journey with plenty of up's and downs, but I was determined to get her ready in time for the OCF even if I had to push it to Dearborn!...

I have this tube coming out of my 1920 engine. Can you all tell me what it's for?

Got this tool with some model T parts. It came in a Snyder’s tube package don’t know if it came from Snyder’s though. If anyone is interested in it I’ll sell it to you.

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16315546148204993297547343300635.jpg Ok here is a mystery to me but perhaps not to you. Prior to the OCF, I went to check the coolant level in my reproduction 1910 radiator and found this rubber thing laying on the top of the V fin inside! It's obviously been in there for some time as it's got a bit of rusty stuff on it. I just recently got the T...

Andy, your buffington chair is on the way. We were away and didn’t realize it sold. Sorry, bu5 should be there in a couple days, T

Another good tip from Herm on the old forum

By Kohnke Rebabbitting on Friday, August 31, 2012 - 05:25 pm:

WE are not talking about cam ground lifters, you will never see those in a early Ford, as T's, A's, or B's.

This is what I have been talking about, why New, or used lifters have to be Butt! I have heard a lot of comments about...

Installed the Side Lamps / Lights on my 1926 TT Truck.

Would anyone know what publication this image came from? I used to know, but unfortunately I cannot remember where it came from. And if anyone has one, I would love to see some photos of #14, Baby Carrier.

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In 1962 I bought a fully restored 1926 Tudor sedan, serial number 12,745,000. Does anyone know where this car may be now? Thank you, KM

For drag link end caps I see three different possibilities:

. APCO for worn ends from Lang's
. Cap shown in the picture that I received from Dave Huson.
. Grease cap shown in the picture that came with my Touring.

Are all of the above ok or is there something in particular I should be doing?

Hello all, I have just started wiring this coil box. The top row of contacts is for the commutator, the second row is to the spark plugs. I assume that the third row of 2 contacts is for switching and maybe lighting? I don't know what they are for. How one might wire and the driver turns on and off lights on a speedster mix such as this? Guidance...

Can someone please post some pics of proper generator/headlight wiring harness routing, from the firewall down the frame beyond the steering column frame attach point , on a '26? Do I need clips?
Thanks!

This tag is located inside of the door jamb on the drivers side rear door of my ‘20 touring on the bottom sill towards the front. I thought it had to do with daily production but according to Ford records 2850 were built that day.
The tag seems to be a soft material (lead?).
Have any other members found a similar tag on their cars?

Here we are fitting the steering bracket for Hay wagon to speedster project. It is a bit off. The front hole in the base to the frame lines up, see the bolt and nut is on red circle. The other is somewhat off (red circled) and the top one is definitely off. What might be the problem? I realize that I need to put the base flange under the rail not...

This is the front spring shackle. Should there be the gap where the red arrow is pointing?

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On the road with The Big Green Truck !

Our normal group of 4 guys from the PNW is un-expectably down to a group of three! We have once again rented a cottage in Mt. Gretna (three bedrooms, 4 beds, sleeps up to 6). We limit it to 4 non-smoking males. We have two rental cars that you're welcome to join in and share expenses. This is my 12th year and I'm the newbie! We know where to go...

Our normal group of 4 guys from the PNW is un-expectably down to a group of three! We have once again rented a cottage in Mt. Gretna (three bedrooms, 4 beds, sleeps up to 6). We limit it to 4 non-smoking males. We have two rental cars that you're welcome to join in and share expenses. This is my 12th year and I'm the newbie! We know where to go...

D4430BB9-A109-4231-A3E6-9A6ACCA474DC.jpeg Steve left Springfield MO at about 7ish am pulled into my drive at 11am . We fixed a small short in his home spun phone charging system then spent 45 minutes on my porch. Hit the road about 12:45. Since he’s running behind he won’t be making any side trips or stops. He’s pushing on through to OCF Dearborn....

New to the forum here but not new to Model T‘s!
In 1996 I purchased the below 1920 touring. My father having had 2 model T’s on the farm back in the ‘30’s was I think surprised when I told him I wanted a T and zeroed in on a touring that was the same as what he had. We went to look at it and brought it home the following week.
Incidentally, the...

I would like to install bumpers on my 24 Fordor and was wondering if the ones sold at Lang's for the 26-27 would work. I was going to use the split bumpers on the rear. Has any one done this?

Trying to get the guy that posted this to show it here. But encase, he doesn't. Note lack of water outlet on front of head. Guessing, maybe it was moved to rear?
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I found this tool, with Model T parts, I purchased last week.
The name on the side is very faint but it appears to be ( New Britain VL-200 ).
Any clue, what it is?

George Schmidt
Elkhorn, Nebraska

What is new to my T is that it sputters under acceleration (even on level ground).
I opened both outlets at the bowl and carburetor - fuel was running freely and was clean.
After that for a few miles everything was fine, regular acceleration power.
Then again sputtering (I hear 'patch patchadipatchpatch' from the carburetor), letting fuel flow,...

What is the canister on the 1926 T running board used for?

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I picked up a lamp at Chickasha but then tried to get the brass cap off and the underside bolt disintegrated. Is this salvageable somehow?

Hi all, I've misplaced an original fender eye bolt, Lang's is back ordered and I need to improvise something quick. Is there a particular size hardware store eye bolt that works? I can heat it and pound it flatter then grind a bit off to make it fit.

I need to mount the Stewart gear on the wheel of my 1911. Has anyone made a tool to center the gear on the wheel? Would someone have one I can borrow? Thanks, Art

Story in today's Wall Street Journal.

but the car had been rotting for years. The wooden pickup bed my grandfather built was intact. But the rest of the car was in terrible shape. The front seat was stuffed with horsehair, and rodents had had a field day. Some of the metal was damaged through the years, and the whole thing stank to high heaven.

The old man steps up to his car,
It is a very old one with narrow tires.
It has a crank handle out front,
And he grasps it with his right hand.

He puts out a wire loop on the left,
And pulls up the crank four times,
then steps around to the left side
And turns a key and a buzz is heard.

He returns to the crank and takes hold,
He spins the crank...

Here's a pic of my friends '47 badge on his '21 touring.

OCF operatives have reported sightings and communications with subject! Photographic evidence has not been currently received.

It's a little under a month until tour time in NW Arkansas. We have some great Model T roads in this area, and we'll be driving on some of them for this tour. If you're going to the Texas T Party, drive on up to Fayetteville when you're finished with that, and you'll be just in time for our tour. Come in on Wednesday, the 6th of October, so you...

How difficult will it be to return to a conventional commutator from a distributor? Is it simply removing the distributor and alternator and installing a generator and timer along with new wiring and coils and coil box?

After fixing his leaky freeze plug early this morning. He cruised into Indiana and is camped in Huntington Ind. this evening. Car ran fine few extra stops to check water oil and gas. He’s in good spirits and hopes to be in Dearborn tomorrow afternoon.

Link to the story by the Australian Broadcasting Commission

I am not familiar with the tires on this air conditioned Paddy Wagon.
Great vehicle for sight seeing, and being seen in!

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Recently up graded from a 1923 Touring to a 1914 Touring. The 1914 has side lamps made by The Victor Lamp Co. I have been attempting to remove the font on the lamps to add oil, but will be damned if I can figure out how to do so. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Rick

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There is a great article in Road & Track about the Bradford Model T Girls.

Check it out:

Tom Magee

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Just noticed this myself but if any of you people get the Motortrend channel Roadkills Engine Masters (Dave Freiberger and Steve Dulcich) will be Dino testing engines for rotating mass. Less weight to rotate is the title. It’s on at 8:30 tonight. Might give some solid info on cast iron vs aluminum.

This isn't my ad and it isn't my car, and since I live in a single-room urban apartment (unfortunately) it isn't going to be my car. (Not a member of a local T club & have no place to work on it. Yay college?) But at $1200 it might make a nice project and the coupes are really cute.

It still hurts to see a good Improved Ford sitting out in this...

Does anybody know if the brake equalizer kits for a large drum can be fitted to a RHD car?
If so do you just invert the system or does it require modification.

Thanks

I just joined the Historical Society here in Klamath Falls, OR and one of the first things I did was to contact the folks at the County Museum to see if there might be any information on who the Ford agent was in 1914, the year my Touring car was built. A very helpful lady turned this up from the local newspaper:

Evening Herald for Jan 3, 1914...

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