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This is my first post and want to share this successful re-purposing of a 1921 Model T Engine & Cylinder Head. I have a 1921 T Touring and bought these before Thanksgiving not completely knowing how I wanted to display them in our home. Also, want to thank some of the people who’ve helped fuel my curiosity and passion of studying early Ford...

Need some help with a screw set for a 26/7 touring. I bought a pack of interior trim screws at Carlisle a while back and I'm trying to figure out where they go. As far as I can tell the 7 circled in blue are for the dashboard to the cow. The ones circled in orange were ordered from Lang's and Are for the switch plate. I'm thinking that the ones in...

What is the width of a 1922 coupe body at the belt line side to side?

Looking for information on these spark plugs
they look to be 2 pc. plugs, with only T marking on them, Bob

I'm getting a pair of brake drums ready for installation on rebuilt wheels. I'm painting this outside but I'm not sure what to do with the inside (the surface which the brake pads rub on.) These surfaces are primed but one of the drums accumulated some moisture and has some minor surface rust. I'm afraid that the primer on them and any paint I...

I drove to Ohio in November to see the Klepingers and to visit Stutzmans. I dropped off 2 wheels and had a short visit
with Arlin, Noah's son. They are the only 2 that work there. I asked him to please mail the wheels back to me. I had
already taken them apart and cleaned them. I gave him 2 of my old spokes so he knew what size to make. I was...

I see two different replacement battery horn buttons on vendor websites (not talking about the earlier headlight switch version). Why did the button shape change in 1926? Are the housings different?

I've never been to Hershey. I guess I first started to hear about it in the 1970's.
This was found on youtube:

See the tank at about 5:12or so in the video.

Is there any difference in flywheels, from 1919 thru 1926.
Thanks in advance

I'm putting a top on a 1916. It had the original top on it. When I removed the original there was no evidence of a front windshield flap. When I installed tops on other two man types I used the 23-25. type flap because they were just drivers and that type is better. Questions are: Did they all have front flaps?
What does it tack to? Looking at the...

Thank you all for your great input on my original post! However, based on the advice given, am I to understand that this counterweighted crank cannot be successfully balanced statically? If so, why?

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Anyone have any handy tips on the Vaporizer Carb Choke assembly?
There is a spring under the lever cap, which I can see only can fit one way. What I need to know is the orientation of the tab lever on the inner end of the choke shaft. It is held in place with a pin, but what is the orientation of it supposed to be, relative to the orientation of...

So I was fortunate enough to walk this out the front door of someones Ebay store without anyone stopping me (labeled as a Stevens Mystery Tool). Overall, in excellent condition, not beaten up or damaged in any way, just the normal problem that I have always had when it comes to finding/buying tools like this over the last 60 years, something...

Since the Speedster project is now running, Its time to think about driving it.

I have been oiling the push rod guides and the valve stems with my little pump oiler. But it is a real mess each time. I know that this thing is going to be an oily beast but I hope to keep it to a minimum. The Rajo 4 valve has a valve cover but it is almost useless....

In ignorance I used zinc ammonium chloride as a flux when soldering mag coils. Subsequently I learned that it will corrode copper, so I need to get rid of any that may still be present ( I've been searching the internet to find what will neutralize the stuff, and not having much luck. It doesn't help that I never even took high school chemistry. I...

So my son today told me that I owed him 0.60 cents for fixing the windshield hinge, as per the Ford Schedule Of Repair Charges. When I went to look it up (I want to be sure that I am throwing the right number of pennies at him when he is not looking), I saw something that caught my eye that I wanted to ask here on the Forum. On page 7, under the...

The MTFCA Annual Meeting scheduled for February 26th-27th has been cancelled. The Annual Meeting has been moved to Thursday July 8th, 2021 as part of the upcoming National Tour in Spokane Washington. The Greater St. Louis Chapter, who was scheduled to sponsor the annual meeting, has agreed to host the 2022 Annual Meeting.

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The later mag rings have insulators like this under the coils. The only double stack mag ring I've inspected is the one I'm rebuilding, and it was done before, maybe fifty or sixty years ago. It didn't have them. Should I use these? What are they supposed to do? The coils are already insulated with tape and varnish, so why...

So, I believe my 23 has been upgraded with a newer tranny. It has the large brake drum, and the hogshead has the screw in mag post. However, it still has the small pedals. Looking at the hogshead, it appears that the mag post area has been welded. Would it have been common to replace the boss of the mag plug, or is the welded boss just the way the...

I have to repaint the bottoms of the fender on my 15 touring car. I was wonder what other folks have done, not looking for a show car finish. I drive a lot of dirt and gravel roads here in Vt.
Thanks
Fitz

Does anyone know anything about these Pistons. I also have a set of cross section rods that came with them.
You can see in the first & second photo were they were electrically welded the skirts together.

Next spring I am planning to install hydraulic rear brakes (please no debates here). I'd like to buy a brake pedal to have the tab welded on and keep my original pedal intact. I'm looking at this one. The shaft is shot but does the cam look worn to you? This will fit my 26 Touring, right?
Thanks,
Mike

Hi all
I have two different brands of accessory brakes was wondering if anyone is familiar with either of these sets and/or has any info or literature on either of these. They both anchor at the rear similar to original rocky mountains so I'm thinking that they should work similar to original rockies. Of course they would need to be cleaned up...

For years the Horseless Carriage Club of Southern California has had the Holiday Motor Excursion. You probably have guessed we couldn't have it for the first time in 60 years, because of the virus. So, some of our members decided to do the Rose Parade route down Colorado Blvd. on New Years morning anyway. There was just our group, plus several non...

I'll be listing a number of Model T parts for sale in the next few weeks. I want to buy an out of the ordinary brass era car. Any of these parts offered for sale, could be given at no cost, for a lead resulting in the purchase of car as described. I have quite a large collection of T parts and goodies. If you are looking for items not listed,...

I tried to go to the Rottlieb website and It says the website can't be found, is it a temporary outage, or did they take it down for good?

Purchase 3/4 oak finished on both sides plywood to make firewall for my speedster build. Think I would stain with cherry and then a good coat of varnish. Does that sound appropriate? If not please give me some advise. Thank you, Don Hanson

About a year ago I found and was able to purchase a Stevens Front Axle re-facer in its original box. In all my years of messing with Ts it is the only one I have ever seen.

I needed to change the front axle of the Speedster project to a dip style axle because the standard Ford axle would hit the hand crank. While the dip axle I have is in...

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I have access to a bunch of these bars of Babbitt, wondering if it is any good. Opinions?
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When was the first electric Klaxon horn introduced. What year would it have been an accessory?

Is there anyone who now has parts or repairs Ford battery horns? I recently purchased a good horn that needs some parts and will need to be rebuilt.
Any assistance would be appreciated.
Tom

Building an engine with an external mag and I have found some competing info on the forum concerning slingers. What do you think?

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I’m not sure if this has been posted here but this is a very impressive working 1:18 scale model of a T Model Ford.
This is on Facebook:

23 Roadster..Starter drive ate my mag coil. A recent purchase that ran and drove, but not on mag. Not a big issue, until I replaced some gaskets for leakage. When I removed the oil pan inspection cover, I noticed a pile of copper around the starter area. I assume starter was replaced without removing the starter drive first. So, I figured better...

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I am just reinstalling my steering column after repairing the loose rivet situation at the top. Guess I wasn't paying attention when I removed the column. There are 2 different length bolts that are used to attach the mounting flange on the column to the lower flange on the frame. I don't see any real reason for this. Did somebody just use a wrong...

Looks like a good driver Torpedo. Not all correct, but the starting price seems fair.

Does anyone have any tips or tricks for removing the rear hub from a wood spoke wheel with out damaging the spokes? We have centered the wheel on a piece of 6 1/2 ID tubing in a hydraulic press and applied 10 tons of pressure to the hub with no success. It acts like the front plate is frozen to the hub.
Any suggestions would be greatly...

Would love to have some of your best digital photos of Mr. Jay Klehfoth to include in the Vintage Ford . Gotta send him off in style. Please email them to me at VFeditorMTFCA@yahoo.com. Thanks in advance for your help!

Mike Bender puts the transmission together on the engine his videos. He installs the clutch basket by tapping it down on the shaft. I Have 2 good hubs and the larger bore has .0005 interference fit. I tried installing the hub on the shaft by itself on the bench and it took considerable pounding to put it on half way.
I am concerned that it will...

Does anyone know how to get the movement out of this case? My guess is that the pot metal knurled ring unscrews from the plated brass cylinder. I took this inner cylinder (and movement) out of the outer can by removing the three small screws at the rear of the clock, but I had no luck removing the pot metal ring from the inner cylinder. I’m afraid...

I have what I believe to be a coil box and coils that came off a 1903-1909 Model T. I would like to sell it to someone who collects these things. Contact me if you interested. By the way I have no idea of its value It’s a Splitdorf.
Al Spencer. karollee@sbcglobal.net

I snapped this last week quickly while sitting at a light. Working in butler Pennsylvania. I will try and get a better shot and maybe stop by if I have some time
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Well the speedster project is running again. Im going to try and post a link to a video on Facebook. This may be a wasted effort :)

post update:
OK, It appears to have loaded the video, but I have no sound when I click on the link, but my wife's cell phone does ??? If for some reason others do not have sound, All I can say is this thing does not...

<25 Coup rebuild progressing slowly.
Have a folding support arm for the deck lid , took a guess at where it should be located and got it wrong.
Would any one have a photo of where the support arm is located in the trunk to hold the lid up please.
This is the support arm and where i put wrongly put it.
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Not a whole lot of information on these. Here is what I have observed. It is possible several different manufactures could have been making these for Ford at the same time. The most obvious thing is the size of the Ford script, which from my observations remained the same through 1916 and possibly 1917. The F is much taller than later versions....

I just heard on NPR Henry instuited the 5.00 work day.

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These pistons came out of motor that was rebuilt in the 60’s. No identifying makes other than “184” on the inside lip. Has strange relief around the wrist pins. Should I reuse them?
Tom

Any Forum members living in Califunny, know if a business called Restoration Supply is still in business and is reputable? I haven't ordered from them in decades, but had an old catalog. I texted them or emailed (I don't remember which) about a part. I got a short text back saying they still sold it. No price or any other information given. Makes...

On one of the FB Model T pages I mentioned that the green and blue cars were so dark that in the shade they looked black. Then somebody said, Red too. I doubt that, but I wonder if the fire engine red we see on 1909 cars today is close to the real deal. Are any of the surviving 1909-1910 red cars still wearing their original paint (varnish)?...

I called in to a favourite junk shop on my way home from a weekend celebration of a mate's 80th birthday and our own 52nd wedding anniversary, and happened upon some interesting tools. I'd love to post photos but my new phone does not let this techniphobe do this. Anyway, I came home with a Walden Worcester tool number 111, which is a 1/2 drive...

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I’m looking at a chassis that has an engine in it that supposedly was bored .030 over. It was rebuilt 30 years ago and never ran. Supposedly can’t be turned by hand, but says this....
Quote;
“ The guy I bought it from turned it over with a screw driver with the starter pulled.”

Thoughts?

and how often? Thanks. Bob

The day after Christmas as I climbed up I-17
out of the Verde Valley towards Flagstaff
I noticed my rear trailer wheel smoking
on the driver side of my tandem axle trailer ⚠️

My trailer wheel is too young to smoke 🚭

I found a trailer parts store to open in
Flagstaff and paid the expected markup
for a new drum and hub - brake backing plate...

Tore an engine down and found this on the intake valves between the intake and block. The only thing I could figure out was that it was to keep the valve open longer. Probably a gimmick that didn't work.
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I just spotted it on craigslist.

Happy New Year! What are y'all planning to do on your Model Ts in this new year? I am planning to reupholster and paint mine!

When I pulled my engine, I found that the u-joint was pretty well emptied out of grease. That was after maybe 200 miles of driving. It had escaped from the ball shaped driveline connection and made a real mess. Has anyone found a way to better contain this stuff in operation? I am using the pastey, fibrous type grease here.

Cheers, Bill

A group of us (4 T's) are planning on going to the 2021 National Tour in Spokane (our first National Tour) and the driving the back roads in Western Montana for a couple of weeks. Any info or help about where to go and what to see would be greatly appreciate. We like to drive on dirt, gravel or less, the further away from civilization the better....

This may bend the originalists out of shape, but I got tired of spilling gas everywhere when I tried to fill the tank in the 1922 couple from a gas can on the side of the road. I converted our coupe to 12 volts with a 12 v alternator and starter, (from Snyders). The last time I had the tank out, I mounted a 12 volt fuel pump under the gas tank,...

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Hello fellow large trailer pullers,

Yesterday I purchased a 1999 8'x20' Pace aluminum enclosed auto-hauler. My 2019 Chevrolet tow vehicle has the factory tow package with tow mode and a 7 prong plug. The trailer's plug matches the Chevy's, and its running lights, break lights, turn signals, and flashers all activate as they should. This is easy...

I seem to be missing some spacers on this late motor mount bolt between the spring retainer and the nut. For comparison on my 1922 Touring parts salad there is a big biscuit washer on the front bolt, the back bolt has a mish mash of two nuts. What spacers/washers is supposed to go on this motor mount? If it is the big biscuit washers where can I...

Kim Dobbins just does not age 😉

Join me in wishing him a Happy Birthday 🎁 🎉🎈🍾

FJ

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I would like for all of you to tell me which car has the shade of red that you think looks best on a 09 Ford. I’m working with pictures I found on the internet, so I have no control over quality of the photo, but I tried to find ones that showed some difference in shade. So if you would count down from the top and note your choice it would be...

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What Edison spark plug (number) works in a Model T? I have heard that number 14 is the correct number. Are there other numbers that work? Jim Patrick

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Hi, These are the original rear spring pack brackets and parts but the lower retainer which is original does not seem to reach slightly. See red circle. I tried a c-clamp to compress it a bit so that I can get it on but it isn't going all the way. The other side is fine. Any suggestions on how to compress it a bit to get it back on?

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Original Smith, and T Masters like him, are good for our hobby and good for our Club.

It's my experience that, more often than not, home garage mechanics who have accumulated decades, (in this case 60+ years), of Tin Lizzy maintenance knowledge are not willing to tinker on cars along side the generations now coming up in our hobby. However,...

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Steve Lang was right.

The final outcome of the problem posted below was that the previous speedometer cable key sheared off in the swivel when the speedometer head imploded and seized with 35 mph of force. This is why the beautiful new $225.00 reproduction cable with brass ended casing, that Lang's sold me, would not insert more than 3/8 . This...

I just saw a Ford commercial stating that one does not become a 117 year old auto manufacturing company without being open to change and pledging to manufacture electric cars. Regarding the feasibility of the nation changing over to electric cars, environmentalists and New Green Dealers always stress the necessity of this, so as to eliminate the...

Looking for ideas on how to mount 21 inch Chevy wheels for a speedster project...

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20201228_195356.jpg 20201228_195446.jpg I have two sets of the reprinted Ford Service Bulletins that the MTFCI reprinted at one time. These are on fine quality glossy paper; not on a CD and both have the hard cover binder that came with them. These cover only the years 1919, 1920, 1921, and 1922, only, although I have a complete set that I could...

There is this 26 roadster pickup in a garage. It was last run in 1971 and has sat buried in a garages for the last 50 years. the problem is, it has sat in my garages. It started out when I was 15 with a stuck motor, a frame and 2 axles and evolved into a roadster pickup by finding parts and assembly. Then I got married and there it sits.
Now the...

Does anybody have any pictures of a completely disassembled Hogs Heads (and I mean the Model T Parts, not some bloody pigs head), that is without pedals and or any of the other parts on or in it? Any and all of them I'd like to have pictures of and what I need is front, right side, rear and underneath and the years they came from. I'm especially...

I'm in the process of removing the magnets from a T flywheel and want to use the spools as oil slingers and as well, I need something to hold the ring gear to the flwheel. The brass bolts are 14-24, and I'm thinking of stacking two spools together (two high) 90 deg apart on the flywheel. Are the original brass bolts strong enough to handle the job...

Has anyone had experience with this tire? I need 4 tires and the price of these is really low. Sometimes low price means other things are low about the product.

I am looking for the following VF issues:

Volume:17 Issues 4,5,6
Volume:18 Issues 1 thru 6
Volume:19 Issues 1 thru 6
Volume:23 Issue 6
Volume:29 Issue 6
Volume:35 Issues 1 thru 6
Volume:37 Issue 6

Does any one have extras?

Thank you,

Scott

Hi there,
I have a technical question about the starter.
What is the power of the starter (in KW) and what is the power consumption (peak and nominal current).
I am the President of the Ford Model T Club of Germany and a member really wants to know this.
Thank you in advance for the information and a good year 2021 with many fun trips to all...

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Questions for the historians out there: I am detailing my freshly rebuilt engine and transmission prior to installing it back in the chassis of my 1911 touring T. All those shiny nuts and bolts are going to corrode unless they are protected somehow. I remember reading that during assembly on the line someone would brush paint such areas. Did they...

I am using a Z head on my engine. Would it by risky to to lift it with a spark plug eye bolt? I am thinking out would not be a good idea.

John

I am interested in starting a new, or reviving an old, chapter in Louisiana.

I’m having trouble finding out who to contact and how to proceed.

Any suggestions?

Rich showed a picture of the brakes that he fitted to a Buick. This design applies the force with floating linkage and anchoring at the point of application(top of the shoes). Hydraulic brakes were designed with this feature, except for the last few years of the drum brakes when the anchoring was moved from the top to the bottom of the shoes. This...

Wishing everyone a very HAPPY NEW YEAR and may all your Model T wishes come true in 2021

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Happy motoring into the new year model t drivers. Take a look at this video my friend made this summer of my 14 buzzing up and down his driveway. Boy does that T sound sexy.

Happy Motoring,
Seamus

Here is nice night drive around Lake Miola in Kansas. It is not at midnight, but 10:00 PM is close enough for me. It is 27 degrees and just ahead of a snow and ice storm later tonight. Nothing like bringing in 2021 while driving a Model T. Happy New Year!
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Hello all,

I was recently given a nice, wooden steering wheel for my 1915. The wheel that is currently on the car is one of the black Fordite ones from a later car. The Fordite wheel spider has one key slot, and the earlier wheel has two slots. The end of the column seems to have slots for two keys, with only one being used to secure the Fordite...