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When the 1914 came to me, the headlights had been converted to electric bulbs. About 15 years ago I had de-converted a friend's car from bulbs back to gas and I wanted to do it now on this car.

After removal of the bulbs and wires and replacing it with burners and gas pipe and hose, it was pretty much just a matter or putting the calcium carbide...

I'm trying to contact mr. Bell, I've been unable to contact him through email.

Came across a guy who appears to be harvesting old car photos off the internet. He had some interesting Model T photos, so I will share them with you. 7D4A2F85-0DA9-476B-80C2-24527419B6D5.jpeg 28BB33D7-0871-411D-B06A-3892A67F8F00.jpeg 921F7C73-8620-48BF-808E-30EA2E7832E3.jpeg 64DF2611-4D33-45D0-850D-39ADE18EA8E9.jpeg

The white one has Ford script the other does not. I am not sure where I obtained either one of these. They are slightly different sizes. I wonder where it came from?

I just got off the phone with Dennis and he said it’s full steam ahead with the Luray, VA swap meet for 2021. I’ve never been before but seeing as how Marietta got cancelled, we may have to drive over and check it out. He promised we would not be disappointed. And reviewing the previous photos, I’d say he’s right!!!

I congratulate members/vendors who make new stuff to fill a need we all have for our restorations. However, modern manufacturing methods make really sharp, accurate products which are like peas in a pod, whereas most original parts are more individual, largely as a result of the different methods used to manufacture them.
Dan Hatch has machined...

Does anyone have a solution to leaky radiator hose connections? I’ve tightened the clamps but still leaks.

Seems like a non setting sealant might be in order?

One of my front fender hangers is bent. I put a big pipe wrench and extended it with a pipe for more leverage. That straightened it a bit but it still remains somewhat bent. Is there a better way? -- IV

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I'm planning to tow my '22 Center Door from its current storage unit in central NJ to my house in Virginia. Under normal conditions, the drive is roughly 200 miles of mostly I-95. I'm fairly experienced with hauling trailers and driving very large vehicles, but have never towed anything as delicate as a Model T before. I don't have...

On January 12th, 1904, Henry Ford became the first American driver driving a racer made in the U.S. to set the world mile speed record. He also became the first man to drive a mile under 40 seconds. He did it after rebuilding his 1902 built racer (some dispute whether it was 999 or Arrow) that had been wrecked in in 1903 at the Wisconsin State...

Does anyone here know what the Ford Service Station Starter/Generator test stand is?
I am looking for a manual for it. Will post a picture tomorrow. Thanks, Dan.

From an email we received couple days ago.
Hope things get better.

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The ice was melting.

Wonder what it is like to drive a Model K on the ice?

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Does anyone have a contact or source for someone who re-builds or restores horns. Would like to get mine working again, any input would be great.

The brass flat rivets that hold the insulators to the brush plate holder, where would I find them, I've checked most vendors and they don't list them.

Hey all,
I am looking to buy the hub thread chaser.
Number by Lang is 2815T, by Snyders T-2815-T.
Does any one out there know where I can buy one , on both places it is backorder and no date to be available again.

Thanks
Andre
Belgium

Here in the deep South, it rarely snows. The last time was about 12 years ago. We woke up this morning, to a white blanket, so I got the Coupe out, and we drove to the city park, and took some photos. It was still coming down, at 8:30 am when I took these. Screenshot_2021-01-11_13-21-30.png

This is my first post and want to share this successful re-purposing of a 1921 Model T Engine & Cylinder Head. I have a 1921 T Touring and bought these before Thanksgiving not completely knowing how I wanted to display them in our home. Also, want to thank some of the people who’ve helped fuel my curiosity and passion of studying early Ford...

Need some help with a screw set for a 26/7 touring. I bought a pack of interior trim screws at Carlisle a while back and I'm trying to figure out where they go. As far as I can tell the 7 circled in blue are for the dashboard to the cow. The ones circled in orange were ordered from Lang's and Are for the switch plate. I'm thinking that the ones in...

What is the width of a 1922 coupe body at the belt line side to side?

Looking for information on these spark plugs
they look to be 2 pc. plugs, with only T marking on them, Bob

I'm getting a pair of brake drums ready for installation on rebuilt wheels. I'm painting this outside but I'm not sure what to do with the inside (the surface which the brake pads rub on.) These surfaces are primed but one of the drums accumulated some moisture and has some minor surface rust. I'm afraid that the primer on them and any paint I...

I drove to Ohio in November to see the Klepingers and to visit Stutzmans. I dropped off 2 wheels and had a short visit
with Arlin, Noah's son. They are the only 2 that work there. I asked him to please mail the wheels back to me. I had
already taken them apart and cleaned them. I gave him 2 of my old spokes so he knew what size to make. I was...

I see two different replacement battery horn buttons on vendor websites (not talking about the earlier headlight switch version). Why did the button shape change in 1926? Are the housings different?

I've never been to Hershey. I guess I first started to hear about it in the 1970's.
This was found on youtube:

See the tank at about 5:12or so in the video.

Is there any difference in flywheels, from 1919 thru 1926.
Thanks in advance

I'm putting a top on a 1916. It had the original top on it. When I removed the original there was no evidence of a front windshield flap. When I installed tops on other two man types I used the 23-25. type flap because they were just drivers and that type is better. Questions are: Did they all have front flaps?
What does it tack to? Looking at the...

Thank you all for your great input on my original post! However, based on the advice given, am I to understand that this counterweighted crank cannot be successfully balanced statically? If so, why?

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Anyone have any handy tips on the Vaporizer Carb Choke assembly?
There is a spring under the lever cap, which I can see only can fit one way. What I need to know is the orientation of the tab lever on the inner end of the choke shaft. It is held in place with a pin, but what is the orientation of it supposed to be, relative to the orientation of...

So I was fortunate enough to walk this out the front door of someones Ebay store without anyone stopping me (labeled as a Stevens Mystery Tool). Overall, in excellent condition, not beaten up or damaged in any way, just the normal problem that I have always had when it comes to finding/buying tools like this over the last 60 years, something...

Since the Speedster project is now running, Its time to think about driving it.

I have been oiling the push rod guides and the valve stems with my little pump oiler. But it is a real mess each time. I know that this thing is going to be an oily beast but I hope to keep it to a minimum. The Rajo 4 valve has a valve cover but it is almost useless....

In ignorance I used zinc ammonium chloride as a flux when soldering mag coils. Subsequently I learned that it will corrode copper, so I need to get rid of any that may still be present ( I've been searching the internet to find what will neutralize the stuff, and not having much luck. It doesn't help that I never even took high school chemistry. I...

So my son today told me that I owed him 0.60 cents for fixing the windshield hinge, as per the Ford Schedule Of Repair Charges. When I went to look it up (I want to be sure that I am throwing the right number of pennies at him when he is not looking), I saw something that caught my eye that I wanted to ask here on the Forum. On page 7, under the...

The MTFCA Annual Meeting scheduled for February 26th-27th has been cancelled. The Annual Meeting has been moved to Thursday July 8th, 2021 as part of the upcoming National Tour in Spokane Washington. The Greater St. Louis Chapter, who was scheduled to sponsor the annual meeting, has agreed to host the 2022 Annual Meeting.

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The later mag rings have insulators like this under the coils. The only double stack mag ring I've inspected is the one I'm rebuilding, and it was done before, maybe fifty or sixty years ago. It didn't have them. Should I use these? What are they supposed to do? The coils are already insulated with tape and varnish, so why...

So, I believe my 23 has been upgraded with a newer tranny. It has the large brake drum, and the hogshead has the screw in mag post. However, it still has the small pedals. Looking at the hogshead, it appears that the mag post area has been welded. Would it have been common to replace the boss of the mag plug, or is the welded boss just the way the...

I have to repaint the bottoms of the fender on my 15 touring car. I was wonder what other folks have done, not looking for a show car finish. I drive a lot of dirt and gravel roads here in Vt.
Thanks
Fitz

Does anyone know anything about these Pistons. I also have a set of cross section rods that came with them.
You can see in the first & second photo were they were electrically welded the skirts together.

Next spring I am planning to install hydraulic rear brakes (please no debates here). I'd like to buy a brake pedal to have the tab welded on and keep my original pedal intact. I'm looking at this one. The shaft is shot but does the cam look worn to you? This will fit my 26 Touring, right?
Thanks,
Mike

Hi all
I have two different brands of accessory brakes was wondering if anyone is familiar with either of these sets and/or has any info or literature on either of these. They both anchor at the rear similar to original rocky mountains so I'm thinking that they should work similar to original rockies. Of course they would need to be cleaned up...

For years the Horseless Carriage Club of Southern California has had the Holiday Motor Excursion. You probably have guessed we couldn't have it for the first time in 60 years, because of the virus. So, some of our members decided to do the Rose Parade route down Colorado Blvd. on New Years morning anyway. There was just our group, plus several non...

I'll be listing a number of Model T parts for sale in the next few weeks. I want to buy an out of the ordinary brass era car. Any of these parts offered for sale, could be given at no cost, for a lead resulting in the purchase of car as described. I have quite a large collection of T parts and goodies. If you are looking for items not listed,...

I tried to go to the Rottlieb website and It says the website can't be found, is it a temporary outage, or did they take it down for good?

Purchase 3/4 oak finished on both sides plywood to make firewall for my speedster build. Think I would stain with cherry and then a good coat of varnish. Does that sound appropriate? If not please give me some advise. Thank you, Don Hanson

About a year ago I found and was able to purchase a Stevens Front Axle re-facer in its original box. In all my years of messing with Ts it is the only one I have ever seen.

I needed to change the front axle of the Speedster project to a dip style axle because the standard Ford axle would hit the hand crank. While the dip axle I have is in...

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I have access to a bunch of these bars of Babbitt, wondering if it is any good. Opinions?
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When was the first electric Klaxon horn introduced. What year would it have been an accessory?

Is there anyone who now has parts or repairs Ford battery horns? I recently purchased a good horn that needs some parts and will need to be rebuilt.
Any assistance would be appreciated.
Tom

Building an engine with an external mag and I have found some competing info on the forum concerning slingers. What do you think?

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I’m not sure if this has been posted here but this is a very impressive working 1:18 scale model of a T Model Ford.
This is on Facebook:

23 Roadster..Starter drive ate my mag coil. A recent purchase that ran and drove, but not on mag. Not a big issue, until I replaced some gaskets for leakage. When I removed the oil pan inspection cover, I noticed a pile of copper around the starter area. I assume starter was replaced without removing the starter drive first. So, I figured better...

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I am just reinstalling my steering column after repairing the loose rivet situation at the top. Guess I wasn't paying attention when I removed the column. There are 2 different length bolts that are used to attach the mounting flange on the column to the lower flange on the frame. I don't see any real reason for this. Did somebody just use a wrong...

Looks like a good driver Torpedo. Not all correct, but the starting price seems fair.

Does anyone have any tips or tricks for removing the rear hub from a wood spoke wheel with out damaging the spokes? We have centered the wheel on a piece of 6 1/2 ID tubing in a hydraulic press and applied 10 tons of pressure to the hub with no success. It acts like the front plate is frozen to the hub.
Any suggestions would be greatly...

Would love to have some of your best digital photos of Mr. Jay Klehfoth to include in the Vintage Ford . Gotta send him off in style. Please email them to me at VFeditorMTFCA@yahoo.com. Thanks in advance for your help!

Mike Bender puts the transmission together on the engine his videos. He installs the clutch basket by tapping it down on the shaft. I Have 2 good hubs and the larger bore has .0005 interference fit. I tried installing the hub on the shaft by itself on the bench and it took considerable pounding to put it on half way.
I am concerned that it will...

Does anyone know how to get the movement out of this case? My guess is that the pot metal knurled ring unscrews from the plated brass cylinder. I took this inner cylinder (and movement) out of the outer can by removing the three small screws at the rear of the clock, but I had no luck removing the pot metal ring from the inner cylinder. I’m afraid...

I have what I believe to be a coil box and coils that came off a 1903-1909 Model T. I would like to sell it to someone who collects these things. Contact me if you interested. By the way I have no idea of its value It’s a Splitdorf.
Al Spencer. karollee@sbcglobal.net

I snapped this last week quickly while sitting at a light. Working in butler Pennsylvania. I will try and get a better shot and maybe stop by if I have some time
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Well the speedster project is running again. Im going to try and post a link to a video on Facebook. This may be a wasted effort :)

post update:
OK, It appears to have loaded the video, but I have no sound when I click on the link, but my wife's cell phone does ??? If for some reason others do not have sound, All I can say is this thing does not...

<25 Coup rebuild progressing slowly.
Have a folding support arm for the deck lid , took a guess at where it should be located and got it wrong.
Would any one have a photo of where the support arm is located in the trunk to hold the lid up please.
This is the support arm and where i put wrongly put it.
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Not a whole lot of information on these. Here is what I have observed. It is possible several different manufactures could have been making these for Ford at the same time. The most obvious thing is the size of the Ford script, which from my observations remained the same through 1916 and possibly 1917. The F is much taller than later versions....

I just heard on NPR Henry instuited the 5.00 work day.

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These pistons came out of motor that was rebuilt in the 60’s. No identifying makes other than “184” on the inside lip. Has strange relief around the wrist pins. Should I reuse them?
Tom

Any Forum members living in Califunny, know if a business called Restoration Supply is still in business and is reputable? I haven't ordered from them in decades, but had an old catalog. I texted them or emailed (I don't remember which) about a part. I got a short text back saying they still sold it. No price or any other information given. Makes...

On one of the FB Model T pages I mentioned that the green and blue cars were so dark that in the shade they looked black. Then somebody said, Red too. I doubt that, but I wonder if the fire engine red we see on 1909 cars today is close to the real deal. Are any of the surviving 1909-1910 red cars still wearing their original paint (varnish)?...

I called in to a favourite junk shop on my way home from a weekend celebration of a mate's 80th birthday and our own 52nd wedding anniversary, and happened upon some interesting tools. I'd love to post photos but my new phone does not let this techniphobe do this. Anyway, I came home with a Walden Worcester tool number 111, which is a 1/2 drive...

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I’m looking at a chassis that has an engine in it that supposedly was bored .030 over. It was rebuilt 30 years ago and never ran. Supposedly can’t be turned by hand, but says this....
Quote;
“ The guy I bought it from turned it over with a screw driver with the starter pulled.”

Thoughts?

and how often? Thanks. Bob

The day after Christmas as I climbed up I-17
out of the Verde Valley towards Flagstaff
I noticed my rear trailer wheel smoking
on the driver side of my tandem axle trailer ⚠️

My trailer wheel is too young to smoke 🚭

I found a trailer parts store to open in
Flagstaff and paid the expected markup
for a new drum and hub - brake backing plate...

Tore an engine down and found this on the intake valves between the intake and block. The only thing I could figure out was that it was to keep the valve open longer. Probably a gimmick that didn't work.
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I just spotted it on craigslist.

Happy New Year! What are y'all planning to do on your Model Ts in this new year? I am planning to reupholster and paint mine!

When I pulled my engine, I found that the u-joint was pretty well emptied out of grease. That was after maybe 200 miles of driving. It had escaped from the ball shaped driveline connection and made a real mess. Has anyone found a way to better contain this stuff in operation? I am using the pastey, fibrous type grease here.

Cheers, Bill

A group of us (4 T's) are planning on going to the 2021 National Tour in Spokane (our first National Tour) and the driving the back roads in Western Montana for a couple of weeks. Any info or help about where to go and what to see would be greatly appreciate. We like to drive on dirt, gravel or less, the further away from civilization the better....

This may bend the originalists out of shape, but I got tired of spilling gas everywhere when I tried to fill the tank in the 1922 couple from a gas can on the side of the road. I converted our coupe to 12 volts with a 12 v alternator and starter, (from Snyders). The last time I had the tank out, I mounted a 12 volt fuel pump under the gas tank,...

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Hello fellow large trailer pullers,

Yesterday I purchased a 1999 8'x20' Pace aluminum enclosed auto-hauler. My 2019 Chevrolet tow vehicle has the factory tow package with tow mode and a 7 prong plug. The trailer's plug matches the Chevy's, and its running lights, break lights, turn signals, and flashers all activate as they should. This is easy...

I seem to be missing some spacers on this late motor mount bolt between the spring retainer and the nut. For comparison on my 1922 Touring parts salad there is a big biscuit washer on the front bolt, the back bolt has a mish mash of two nuts. What spacers/washers is supposed to go on this motor mount? If it is the big biscuit washers where can I...

Kim Dobbins just does not age 😉

Join me in wishing him a Happy Birthday 🎁 🎉🎈🍾

FJ

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I would like for all of you to tell me which car has the shade of red that you think looks best on a 09 Ford. I’m working with pictures I found on the internet, so I have no control over quality of the photo, but I tried to find ones that showed some difference in shade. So if you would count down from the top and note your choice it would be...

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What Edison spark plug (number) works in a Model T? I have heard that number 14 is the correct number. Are there other numbers that work? Jim Patrick

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