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Another thing I failed to mention, if you have wood spoke wheels, the spokes should be tight in the felloes and in the hub. They might need to be re-spoked if they are loose.
Norm

That is what it sounds like to me.

I don’t know if this is a consideration, but when I bought a roller bearing fourth bearing to replace the original babbited one, the directions advised for me to cut off about 3/8” of the ball in order for it to mate with the cavity of the new bearing. I thought about it and decided I didn’t like that idea so I took out my drive plate and sent it...

Here is a link to a study of the wheels I did a few years ago. It should give you something to read and think about.

Thanks for the ad photo Frank !

Yes Allan, it slips on and you slide it over to the perch. I've removed perches with it but as stated above - if it's been outside exposed to the elements, I use heat and my 40 ton press using a thread protector.

Years ago made a tool similar to the one shown in Service Bulletin.

Thanks for the information Dan. the dimensions for the Ford made clamp are close to the dimensions shown in the service bulletin drawing. The longer arm is 4 long, and the arm dimensions are 3/16 thick x 5/16 wide compared to the 1/4 diameter rod in the drawing. The opening is...

If you don't want them, at least give them to someone in the club who likes to salvage coils, or rebuild them. Many times it is just a loose connection or a bad condenser causing the problem Even the wood can be salvaged for a coil which is otherwise good but the wood is shot.
Anyway, don't toss them in the dump.
Norm

I got mine!

They look kind of sloppy around the line of bolt holes on the valve side, but it should not affect the operation.

I did not know Glenn Larson, but having lost one of my brothers to Covid, I do know how his friends, family, and colleagues feel. My condolences to all.

From the Tennessee T's. Thank you Susan for your service and we look forward to working with you Rachel.

This post from 2014 has terrific info of real data researched on the first Model T's. Very good reading.

As for the first T's, only about 12 had the unique front crossmember bracket that is straight down as opposed to the later L curved bracket. A real one would have this special bracket only used very short time on the first dozen Model T's...

John Codman hit the nail on the thumb.
A lot of mods, and IF they were well done, it MIGHT be a good car.
But if they were all botch jobs, then you would have a LOT of work ahead of you, getting it drivable and also RELIABLE.
I think that might be why the price is so low. When I see mods on a car, especially older mods, I get VERY wary, and to...

I discovered the gentlemen who made the door latches for my year car and he kindly told me two different ways to make the spring. Also, if I couldn't make it he would make it for me if I sent him the latch. His description of how to source the right material and how to make it was more than sufficient for me to get the material and make the...

Terry it sounds like you have a very busy schedule when you come over the pond maybe have to take 3 years off. 20201013_095527.jpg

Thanks Hap I see it now, that early set up must have been done away with early, the only pinion listed by 1911 is the tapered one, pinion only or shaft with a pinion.

R.V. & Larry...guess maybe I just have bad luck. But I generally don't back down from a challenge...I'll get it licked somehow! At least I got 90% of the oil drips from both cars remedied...they almost don't look like a T anymore on the pavement under the engine! And got the fuel drips stopped too. Yay!

As mentioned above get the housings straightened. Even the late ones bend. In the illustration above it shows a gasket between the D.S. roller bearing spool and the rear end. I don't believe Ford ever offered a gasket for that application.

Craig. The fan bracket is not missing. It is the little brackets at the top of the casting. After looking at the photos again I also see the pin drive in the second photo. It is the part with the four pins and the four little springs. I also see the magneto couplikg that is usually missing. It is the little spring steel cover that fits over the...

Thank You Frank for the old posts they both are very helpful. I am sure this has been said here many times , this forum is the most valuable thing for my dollar on the internet , Thank you to all that make this happen for all of us!

Yes it been posted before but its so nice to watch again. Harsh winter conditions. Icy wind polished roads with no salt or sand in high speed with no spikes or chains on those skinny tyres. He was kind of lucky when the car hit the ditch it was a soft landing in the snow. Interesting guy. Very impressive journey and film .

Nu2theT .... man ... THAT beast would GIVE me Aurthor itis! ;-)

EVERY time I go out in the T is my best time. 'Cause I never know if it'll be MY LAST.

YES KRAZY GLUE WORKS, I BOUGHT A SPRITZER KICKER THAT SETS THE GLUE INSTANTLY, I HAVE A OLD BOX OF MAZDA 9 VOLT BULBS AND HAD THAT PROBLEM WITH ONE , NOT WANTING TO SCRAP A BULB THAT STILL WORKED THAT WAS MY FIX, , I'M USING A 9 VOLT BATTERY IN MY 'T' AND MY LIGHTS ARE GREAT.

There is a modern seal that fits in place of the can for the inner felt that works way better. Machining a carrier for a modern seal that replaces the washer inside the outer sleeve is also the way to go if you have a lathe.

I believe they are making new u-joints for those. I've still got plenty of the old original pot metal ones.

Loved the movie Dan,
It was truly amazing what we did as a nation back then, definitely makes one proud and also wonder how on earth we did it!! Could it be accomplished again? I fear not. Where are the Henry Fords and patriots today???

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Steve, I like the Plutonium plug, I installed them years ago in a Anderson overhead looked cool in there!

There’s always a few in the crowd....always

Yes thanks Ron. I went out and looked at my stash of coils, I have 2 6 screw and 2 4 screw.

If I was going to do this I would install a “swing check” (no springs) in parallel to the pump. Then I would probably have the best of both options!!

Thank you everyone for the responses!

I had forgotten that Mr. Hughson owned it, and was a dealer. I had the suspicion it said 'dealer' but it didn't add up. Thank you Mr. Boggess for setting me straight on that. ;)

According to this diagram, if you tighten the body down at the firewall while shimming just in front of the door hinge column, it will tilt the door forward, closing the gap at the top. I have never done this so, even though it makes sense to me, try at your own risk. Jim Patrick

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Here is my engine painted with Snyder’s high heat Ford Green engine enamel. I think it is as close as your going to get to the original engine green and I like the look of it. Also, whose to say that the dull green on the engine shown above did not look like the Snyder’s supplied Ford Green, 93 years ago when it was first applied. Jim Patrick....

Thanks for the link Walt! I haven’t seen this car before and it certainly is special! It seems like maybe 8-9 years ago Mike Santiago built the A powered single seat sprinter. Guess he’s been busy! It’s good to see Scott at the wheel too. I miss seeing y’all up north... just takes a bit more effort than usual these days to get up there

Thank you all. I have the tool from Scott. Working really well. My NH come from Russ Potter as well. A friend of mine recommended to me the modern one because it avoid to be stuck as the regular needle. But I thought I will keep as is finally with the needle Russ use.

Dwight,

Just a personal ‘trick’ whether I am doing a closed car, or an open one on bows.

I only sink the tacks in halfway until I’m happy with the fit and draw...then once assured I don’t have a pucker...or need just a wee bit more tug by pulling a few tacks for the stretch needed...only then hammer home all the tacks!

X2

Actually, Larry, the cost would be very nearly the same as the 1911 torpedo mats were, which was $425, and we'd need to sell at least 35 to get that price, so I doubt it's gonna happen, at least not by me.

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Before I started using the foam to pack my new Buffalo wheels... I had to ship a wheel to Australia. I spent half a day building a crate to support the wheel and prevent damage under the worst of circumstances. Was not an efficient use of time, and there had to be a better way! No doubt it was the most robust and reliable way to pack something...

My great grandmother bought a new Model T touring in 1925. She drove it until 1947 when it was parked in the shed and it's still there. It now belongs to my cousin and hasn't been run in about 10 yrs. He keeps it oiled up and turning over. I believe his son will inherit it. Not for sale.

Dan, the new manifolds vary a bit as well. The thickness of the one piece copper glands allows them to be tweaked to accommodate these differences too.

Allan from down under.

Super Mario, Befriend a football player with wide shoulders and strong arms.... :)

Keith

Erik,
Yes, Grandma and Grandpa were born and raised in Saint Paul. Grandpa, actually, on a farm in Maplewood on Edgerton St.

Frank,
I guess you could say it started with Grandpa. He traded the '16 in for a coupelet in 1917. Then a '21 runabout, and finally a '25 touring. I caught the bug from my dad. His first car was a '22 coupe that he bought...

The aluminum-style iron manifold appeared in Dec. 1912. It was used for only a short time early in the '13 model year.

Pressure pack of copper seal, buy from Repco, auto barn or super cheap, or you can use brush on silver frost.
Make sure all your head bolt threads are cleaned out, scratch out the crap in the bottom of them and blow out with air. I also use never seize on the head bolt threads.

I have to agree with you Gene, Tom truly is a straight up guy. Always has the time to help.
Back in the days when I was overseeing the Swap Meet, the real star of the show was Tom. I was pretty much like the King of England, just a figurehead.
Tom and the other folks were the ones that made it happen. Tom is like the Enegerizer Bunny. He just...

Thanks everyone. I was going to ask about that spring and clip. I bought one from Lang's does anyone have a picture of one in place?

Found this, enjoy!
Henry Ford and the Reason for the Radius Rod Upgrade

In the summer of 1914, I was walking across the Highland Park Garage. There were two cars standing in there. Mr. Ford waved to me and said, Joe, get in here! I didn't have any hat or coat on, but I got into the car, and I didn't get back to Detroit for three days. When we...

I pulled the valve cover on my speedster, it has a 30 head, same exact spring, ie wraps, OD and spring dia. No inner spring. Along with all the above inputs,......problem solved.
Now I got to find the push rods.
Thanks all, Don

Jeorg, the part you show is not a typical example of nut/bolt sizes. 7/16 is the thread size but the brass hex on the grease fitting is smaller than the usual nut used on a 7/16 bolt. It is a thin walled pressing. As such, it should not be used as a locknut on your fan shaft.

Allan from down under.

Maybe posting the questions he might have would work better. The combined knowledge that is not on paper here is sometimes astounding. Lot of repair information is learned so not in repair manuals. Besides his questions might be of benefit to someone else.

Later production cars after around about 1924 used the step design but not all. Just a Ford design change for cost I guess. Ford did the same thing with the Model A tubes having differences over the production.

The 17 roadster for $425. You could have bough a new 18 for $500 . . .

Keep in mind $500.00 new was the price F. O. B. Detroit. I don't think Ive ever seen any figures for transport and dealer prep in the era, but it surely would have figured into used car values.

I did find this on the internet:

Does someone still sell these?

If you mean a strap , check NAPA.

I run the high dome pistons with a low head on my 13. No problem and hand crank it.
BUT when building it, trial fit with no head gasket (and perhaps some plasticine on the potential “pinch points”) just to be sure of no “interference”!!

Wonderful photos. :)
Burger, I see the bridge designer's name of Modjeski. Mod...jeski.
That's interesting as here it's been spelled Majeski and even more correct Maciejewski.
Maciej = Majee & add the eski/ewski.
Simple right? Oops, not so much.
Same outcome. Majeski or Majevski. See where the V got lost? Very neat.
Too much? OK. And I carry an...

I can personally attest to the effort, trials and tribulations. Good job bother.

Funny how there's always seems to be a Ford in that garage bay over the last 20 or so years.

Andy B

I found a 1925 ad on e-bay that shows the Hycoe brake shoes. It seems they were a popular brand of linings in the late 20s era. The bands and linings pictured in the ad are similar to the accessory Rocky Mountain, AC, and other brands of accessory brakes used on Ts in the 20s. Probably the tool is used to smooth or kneed the brake lining material...

I see two possible causes of the end of our enjoying the Model T. I think they will be in museums and personal car collections of vehicles which are no more driven, but very little use on the roads.
Those two causes are: 1. Lack of interest by future generations. 2. Lack or expense of fuel and/or outlawing them because of environmental reasons....

What year is your car? The 26-27 used a different backing plate and brake drum. If your car is earlier or has earlier wheels on it, you would need to change the brake drums with a 26-27 Ruckstell. Whichever way you go, you would need a set of matching parts to make everything work correctly. Even the parking brake rosds are different for the...

I share with others the respect they have for New Day timers but I reserve my praise for ORIGINAL timers only because some of the repro versions are really bad and some originals that have been crudely resurfaced with things like sandpaper discs don't realize that it is very important that the face of the NEW DAY timer must not only be perfectly...

Nice! Thanks jw

You need to ask your question on the general forum. This section is for issues with the site and not car questions. Please don't post your email in the post (click on the pencil to edit and remove it), easy for scammers to find. People can send via a PM and don't expect people to not reply on the forum, you need to check there too. While most...

I agree with Jerry, I have found the same problems. BE SURE AND CHECK THE PITMAN ARM CONNECTION ( IT NEEDS TO BE CORRECT AND TIGHT) . You mention that it takes 1-1/2 inches of steering wheel movement before the wheels turn. Make sure you are just checking slop and not winding up and loading the steering system. The steering shaft will actually...

Thanks for the book Joseph, It sure takes you back, love it!! jw

My heart goes out to you guys, Thank you all for your investment in America. You all should be proud, I certainly am proud of you!! jw

Then there is the brother newly instructed martial-arts demonstration on the sister. It begins with posing the sister into position and saying Now don't move .

I posted this story in the off topic side before. Angie is my 15 year old daughter. Watch those springs!

So we are putting in the valves on the Model T. The spring compressor kept...

Loved the Model T portion of the video ! Many thanks for posting it. I was reminded of the time that Kirk and Randy drove the latter’s 1913 touring in a NY City to left coast tour. They were flying the MS flag ( partially Stars and Bars ) And became lost in NYC and ended up driving thru Harlem. 😂😂... ‘nuff said

Found it!! Thanks anyway.

In making the square insulator that links the switch handle to the contacts plate I needed to determine how wide to make the slots for the tabs. The remaining cardboard insulators I have are too distorted to measure. When I started measuring the tabs on both handles and contact plates I found different widths on them. They varied from just over...

Looks like a great product, thanks for sharing the information. Any chance it would help me improve performance on my Vaporizer? Any Uncle Stan's easy helpful hints that would?

My opinion on why the hole on the driver/left side of the engine should be blocked off is for proper cooling.

If you notice the exhaust valve arrangement, there are two exhaust valves side by side in the center. That will be the hottest point of the block and need the best cooling possible.

Now notice where the cooled water enters the block....

The APCO came with good adjuster. I have seen some other brands that were pot metal, real buggers to get out. :(

Yes, you are so correct. I have an extra one with no hope of ever getting the adjuster out of it.

If you like to see old cars and some occasional T’s go to TCM (Turner Classic Movies) on your TV.
Lots of old movies in the 30’s and 40’s from time to time. It’s interesting to see T’s and A’s in use probably before they restored being used in the old gangster shows.
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The coeffecient of friction of bare steel on leather vs powder coat and leather is virtually the same.
.5-.6.
I am fully aware of T requirements.
A rubber impregnated belt is slightly improved.

John,
This steering box was on the car when I bought it. This car is accessorized to the hilt. It was owned from new by a woman in central PA. She had to this stuff put on the car early on by the dealer AJ List in Tyrone PA.
As you can see on the link above there is a lot of the accessories shown.
A few years ago I spoke with the second owner of...

Well you sorta answered your question. Breathing is the main thing. But I always worry about dust getting
in under the cover...yes it CAN happen..and then ANY movement of the cover can start paint chafe. I NEVER covered
my sailboats over the years during winter, against all my peers snickering and jeering, yet MY boats, even after years
of...

Gene, Pull the spark plugs, put it in high gear, and hand crank it...

Happy Birthday Dean. You’re the best, enjoy!

Steve
Thank you for the picture. It verifies what I was thinking. I have cast a couple of those as well as a couple of the early version as RHD (as I want one for my 13).
Additionally the early one is at a slightly different angle!!

1984-2014 What a ride!
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As I recall, it is .125 . For many years the repro needle and seat sets were .100 , and my car would run out of gas on a hard pull.

I just found this thread, and found that the presentation has been removed.

Did anyone save it? I'd like to watch it, if anything to help enhance tours at Piquette.

Thanks!

jk