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Noah- thanks for posting the link. The photos were really fine and fun to look at. I even saw pictures of some of our Tennessee T's members in a few of them. Thanks again.

Well done young man! Don't stop learning, and don't believe everything you read on this forum! Understand the information in the Ford Service book, and you are on your way. I realize there is little information as far as pictures go in there, but there is plenty elsewhere!

Hey Michael, my dad ran one on his speedster for a bit... don’t remember noticing the gear noise🤔

The idler and the driven gears ride in bushings, and so will affect the gear mesh as the bushings wear. Also the drive gear is mounted to the camshaft, and may not locate well when mounted to the timing cover. Try to adjust backlash between the drive...

That would have been use. Brendan and Karen Doughty from Nekoosa Wisconsin.

That MAY be the best clip yet.
Thank ya sir!

Great photos!

I appreciate all the good information and I guess I will have to get a pedal to accommodate.
Thanks again all for your time and input

When you say quality , does that mean HIGH quality, poor quality, other ? The word
quality has no meaning without a qualifier.

Those are very unusual. I have never found anyone that can say what is the real story on them.
I did find a picture in a 1910 Ford Times that shows one on a Ford race car. It has the city name cut off and the arrow is pointing to the rear of car.
They must be either Pre T or early T. Dan

I like to thread and plug the core holes as was done on the 1913 and earlier blocks.
The existing core holes sometimes do not even need to be tap drilled as the holes are nearly the correct size for a 1/2 in pipe tap.
I start by getting the tap to go in a short distance. Then I install the pipe plug carefully and count the number of threads...

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The following is from the Jul Aug 1981 Vintage Ford page 43 used by permission to promote our hobby:

From Don Ball – answering in the column “Questions and Answers”

The tray was made of wood and was covered with the
same material as used around the rear window area of
the body. …. The holes were not for ‘drainage”
but rather...

Thanks, I am picking up Wednesday and will get more photos

Only one remaining, no more will be produced by me. Doing other things with my life.

Thanks Matt!

Hank

Looks like a brass body L4. Those had a smaller bowl nut than the cast iron version. It’s also missing one of the arms for the choke, and it has a late model spray needle. Those bowls will interchange with the early NH bowls (to the left) but have a different drain.

Thanks Dan. You are better at finding those than I was. Much the same except for the Hot Dome . Also Fuemizer instead of Fuemer . Funny how they evolve.
Rich

I am in the Horseless Carriage Club, and our local group decided NOT to post lists of cars owned, because there were several attempts at burglaries
(Fortunately all unsuccessful in our area) that have happened in the past.
I do know one gentleman (in another state) who had a burglary and they removed EVERY piece of brass trim from his car in a...

I have my vaporizer carb on my bench now, after taking it apart after being soaked in Evaporust. Evaporust does NOT attack the float, the brass parts, the copper parts, or anything else. It just removes the rust and leaves everything else untouched.
This would be an ideal test for you to try E.R and see what you think. It is non-irritating, and...

John's suggestions of use the old firewall for a pattern and make a new one sounds like a good idea. I.e. if the hood, hood former, hood sills, firewall to firewall brackets and body all fit together well -- that is the pattern to use.

Note, many of the original firewalls were made up of different vertical boards glued together and that had a...

George,

Blue crimp connector goes to my battery under the backseat.

Guys,

Another stupid question, I have both a 6 volt battery (currently not using), and a 12 volt battery to start and then switch to mag. I should run my lights on the 6volt as again they are old tung sol 6-8 volt incandecent bulbs

I've seen people who try to wind 'em up round & round. Our '21 starts with just a gentle upward pull. It's so easy I bet my 10 year old grandson could do it. I might have him try next time he's at our house. He drove it when he was 9!

Keep posting these photos Tom!

Thank you.

While Ford may not have recommended cutting the brake shoe into two halves, the service bulletin obviously recognised that the shoes did break, and if at the mounting bolt, the extra spring would hold the pieces in place. While admitting to breakages, what it did not acknowledge is what could happen if it broke elsewhere! Just because Ford didn't...

Hi, My 1927 was made on Jan. 31 1927, 14693546, It has original paint and all of the interior is original. Look at the pictures. Thanks, Bob.

Nice find Frank.

Looks like I may have found the issue...with Wayne's help. What is the best way to re-adjust these spring clamps to re-position the spring in the right spot? 20201011_154814.jpg

Thanks, someone just posted in the model A section on fordbarn. Perfect timing, I’m in touch with a fellow that has already been a help.

Steel spoke versions, aftermarket, most all used std. Ford hubs.

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I found these DISTEEL wheels restored by Dan Treace. I have always wanted a set and these are beauties! Came with new bearings tubes, tires, and flaps and a Disteel wrench and Disteel air gauge. Just got them on my Fordoor yesterday.

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Darel: Wow, good for you. Say, if you aren't playing lottery this week, would you mind sharing your numbers with me (in a private msg)? Drive careful, jb

Gene,

Glad to hear John is still making top socket sets.

A belt sander can make fitting the top bows in the sockets go much faster.
As you are fitting the bows in the sockets, install the assemblies on the car in the folded position to make sure they align with each other, and that the sockets fit together in the retainers. Also check that...

We took our old “K” out today.....

John K, The cartoon character is in fact supposed to be Dopey from the 1937 Disney film Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs . The rendition is poor, so that I did not recognize him when I first looked at this thread, and I had to look closer to see it. Dopey was the only one of the seven dwarfs in Disney's film that did not have a beard.

And yes, I...

The half moon over the coil box lid is the first thing I check to see if a car is a true 1915. There are a whole lot of other things too. Here in So. California there are far more fake 1915's than real ones, so it's good to check.

That diagram was nice!

Thank you all.

I just braze the hole up and re-drill it.

Stephen

Thanks everyone!

My wife and I were so sorry to miss the tour this year. It's our favorite of the year. I am happy to read that it went well and that everyone's safety was a top priority. (It always is of course, but these days....)

See y'all next year!!!!!!! :D

Pictured is one I made. John Page, Australia

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Keith, thanks for the tip, I'll pass that on to my friend. Running the screw threads over a cake of bees wax is also helpful when installing screws.

I made a working key! Thanks MTFCA!

Chris,
You're very welcome, glad to hear of your success!
That's thanks enough for me!
Bill

Thank you for the advice! I’ll post more pics when I make more progress.

Darin

Welcome, Len. Getting the T started and driving it are two different animals. I go along with what Norman Kling said about getting it started, but you need to do a safety inspection before driving it. The front suspension and steering need to be thoroughly inspected and lubricated and repaired as necessary before driving the car. Model T brakes...

Mike, I finally dug it out haven't used it in awhile, it is made in USA and named Zim cotter pin puller. It looks as if it may have been plated at one time. Jim

Keep them coming Tom!

Martyn.
Looks perfect to me! Thank you for the great work you do with your drawings
Alan in Western Australia

When I saw you wanted calendar pictures I ran to my room got my speedo on and drove to the beach and took several pictures. All excided I down loaded the pictures and then realized you wanted pictures of Model T's. :oops:

I don't know if Super Mario was the owner or not, but the sign on the back of the Center Door says it's In Transit ....sooo, maybe it's being delivered to somebody on that street?

New 8-36 screws arrived today. These are cad plated and will work nicely in my Holley Carbs. All of my Model G's used 8-36 and all but a couple of NH's have them. I believe the 2 with 8-32's were rethreaded. A 2 screw Holley also has 8-36 but with filister heads. So I believe 36tpi was standard for Holley and 32tpi was what Kingston used. No one...

The car will need to have good brakes installed, perhaps rocky Mountain or other. The Steam engine doesn't have any slowing down ability as does a gasoline engine using compression. Long downhill descents can be a real problem for steamers with their standard brakes.
I remember a steam tour where the participants thought they might need a modern...

Thank you for the refreshing of how I got into reproduction of this. It was/is a interesting project.
I got lucky last year and picked up a Scurlok and put it in a Ruckstell. I have a set of gears to make another one.
Not particularly wishing to compete with Hank, but I have more copies of the Bailey available.
I am currently playing around...

John and Ken, I can see both of your points, however, if the crank will turn at more than .020-.020, I think a turned crank would sell better, unless the buyer has the knowledge and machine to do it himself.

There seem to be two variations of Victor Black & Brass generators.
A smooth top water tank (early) and an embossed (late) with the identification.

It seems the late Victor is the only Black & Brass generator used on Fords
to carry identification. Some early Victor's may have brass clamps but I have no pictures of that.
Anyone?

During this...

Frank,Give me a call and the measurements of what you need I think I have them. Joe Bell

Reconfiguration on the ball.

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Slight reconfiguration of the ball.

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I tested my springs this week with a pallet of concrete, rebar, and some forming
lumber. Forty-two 80lb. sacks pencils out at 3360lbs. I discovered why Ruckstell
low was an option, when I hit a few of the hills ! :lol:

Yes. There are instructions for doing this in the Model T Service Bulletin Essentials book.
The seat base has 2 holes at the leading edge of the frame. You can move it back one hole if it is not already there.
The second thing is removing the seat brace at the top of the seat back, where it interfaces with the package tray. Remove the wood piece...

Our cars are Canadian sourced, and I have never seen spring leaves cut square across without having the corners clipped off. I can't recall any make having square ended springs. Many trailer springs are square cut though, and these could easily be substituted into a T assembly

Allan from down under.

The Dupont color code would be 43334 and is darker than the 43353 color code.

Vintage Ford Magazine : - January - February 2010 page32.

Mike you should join our OC T Club. There may be several members that can help you. They have several workshop nights each month.
Try contacting John Burrell in San Clemente that's right next door to you.
Give me a call for his info at 7one4488six013
Gene

I have a 1919 Runabout and have to remember to use some sort of stick or dowel to prop up the deck lid if I’m changing the battery or something.
I also have a 24 Coupe that has a trunk lid support arm that Ford supplied with the Coupes.
Ford equipped the more expensive Coupe closed cars with a deck lid support but not the lower priced open cars....

What's kind of amazing (to me, anyway) is the centerdoor that's on it's roof has all it's glass except one of the windshield panels (which you can see under the cowl), either that glass was a lot tougher than I've been led to believe, or the car was flexible enough to not bind and break the glass (as happens in most modern cars)... At least the...

Rob, As the model K was raced, was the car used in the races a special , or was it one that came directly off the production line. Reason I ask, the post I presented from India indicated that the American cars used in races were not what a customer could purchase. The race cars, such as the Model K, were carefully built to compete as a stock car?

I wanted to thank all of you for the help and advice you all have given me! I am enjoying meeting the Model T community!

Jonah D'Avella

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Thank you Jim R. That seems to explain part of the when and where. I zoomed in on my laptop, but couldn't pull out enough to read the sign on her behin'.

The white tires I’ve seen on early cars such as a T weren’t really white but more of a Ivory color. Were they really ‘white‘ when new like the whitewall tires of the 50’s? I don’t think so but just asking.

Makes sense, got it, thanks Allen!

Rich, nice work!

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Several years ago i replaced the window channels in my 27 Tudor doors. I found the channel sold by the vendors was too narrow to fit the existing safety glass. Also my car did not have the rubber at the top but the same window channel as the sides. With some online searching I found Stanpro window channel. They make it in many sizes and found some...

Ok, Is this correct Vern?

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All of those bushings I've seen have that slot in them, I even asked the question of Lang's as to what it was for, the response was to clear the woodruff key , which is why I'm showing it. Do you know if Ford's original bushing had that slot in it or not?

Peter, you and all members outside the US were emailed the link to the digital edition last week.
Send me an email and I will resend the message to you if you didn’t receive it.
susan@mtfca.com

The responses so far deal with sleeping. If this is your first antique car flea market, a lesson quickly learned is: if you find something you need or want, buy it because it won't be there next time you look!!! Dick C.

Cast Iron is rather porous, and will hold the acid in the pores, leading to its degradation.
As for Metal-Prep and other products, read about your paint first, as some work better on plain untreated steel/metal (DP Epoxy primers are one example). I would use glass-beading on the manifold with careful cleaning afterwards.

Replacements for the orange drop capacitors for the coils that the vendors have been out of stock on.

Thanks to both Steves. It worked! The bronze nut on the bottom of the carb won't come off. Is it ok to use 'high heat on it too? Probably a dumb question but I was hesitant because of it being bronze.

Jeff..
I'm good on the tap!! I found mine! 7/16 #14 thread. NAPA has longer grade 5 bolts, so will play it safe, and go with those! I should be good!

George.... Thanks for the background! Interesting!

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Yup, this one really hurts. I'd be chowing away on a 24 oz. porterhouse at Culhanes Steakhouse right now and drinking a lot of Yuengling lager. Telling jokes, stories, lies, complaining abut prices, etc., and having a great time with my very dear friends... and missing my dad. It's all wonderful, and it will all return... hopefully next year.

There used to be an old guy here who ran an SU off a 1960 Morris Mini along with the Mini distributor running horizontally from a bicycle chain drive. Went very well.

Yes, spare rim carrier brackets whacked off !!!

Cool Beans 👍

FJ