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The new cam arrived and I removed the brake pedal again but the new part has about 1/64 play whereas the one I built up has none . So, the cam that came with the coupe is back on it and all it sorted out with the brake band for now. The new part will go into my spare parts tool box.

Very true, John, very true.

Or, perhaps, I should simply say Quite.

Linguistics is a fascinating subject!

And, thank you for your kind words.

Yep, I've had a few out on the table at a swap meets and you always get at least one guy that has to spin it and hold onto the working end....

As Jerry states, you should be concerned about the diameter. Well, anyone have a new aftermarket timer who is willing to take a measurement?
Thanks,
John.

The brass ferule used around the pipe in a compression fitting is an accurately machined piece with a taper on EACH side. The nuts and receivers used in conjunction with these have similar machined tapers on the inside. When the two are mated they result in the ferule being crimped onto the line to make the seal. This setting of the ferule allows...

Should it help to have an order made/recast to restock, I am looking for a pair, and would buy 2 pair/sets if needed, one pair for my touring and one set for Dad's RPU or just to have so I can be cool like Jay and sell off an hard to find accessory in the distant future!

An original would most likely have the hole for the rubber tube gas line hose.

Shame on me. I should have known to check the Encyclopedia before asking this question.

Thank you all for your help and ideas I looked at it closer and found that one of the rivets indeed has a larger head and a cut out on the angled bracket, I popped that off with a ball peen hammer and it folds right up now! :)
Now why didn't I notice this before when I was sandblasting it... :roll:
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There is a second high quality tube available, Michelin. They are thick like the Blockley tubes, thick like the old red rubber Goodyear tubes were. The Michelin valve stem screws onto a moulded-in brass base. The valve stem is of the same diameter as the more common Schraeder stems on vintage tubes. The last set of Blockley tyres I mounted were...

Here are two pages to get you started:

Thanks to both of you for the pictures.

Hi! I have two Roof heads and have done extensive research into the various configurations and operation. There are others on here with experience as well including Mike Bender and Kevin Pharis among others.

Happy to help however I can. Can you post some pictures for the group? I'll send an email with my contact information.

Thanks!

Brian

Tom, This improved crank seal Idea that eliminates oil leaks from the front of the engine that drips and blows back covering the rest of the underside was first used and promoted by Orange County and Long Beach T member, Montana 500 Winner Garrett Green!!

There are several different MFG and sizes that will work. It is not required to cut the lip...

William:
The 'Links to more model T sites' is broken/compromised. Six of the seven links are broken, the last one, Drive a model T.com, is an Indonesian Gambling link. FWIW, jb

I'm in Indiana. I have a complete 26 runabout. I have had it running and with title.
Dallas
260- three 36- six 555

Agree button pushed.

Get the 6-7 A/C units.

I did not use washers on my rear fender brackets. Everything bolted up fine.

Porterville has a large grassy area and the casino is right there... so good meals and lodging would be super close....... This could be Really good.

A few years back, a story was related to me about which crankshafts to use as I had just broken one. In about 1923, the Ford trouble shooters employed by Ford to visit the Ford Agencies and help with their problems, began bringing back more and more reports of broken crankshafts. The cars in 1923 were heavier that the original 1909 T's and the...

So the rear intake manifold seal is compromised. Is what's there a one piece gasket? Refurbishing that would mean exhaust manifold would have to come off too.

A week ago, I received the sad news of Bill’s passing. Since then, it has been hard for me to find the right words to express how I feel. So instead, I’ll share some memories and reflect on the remarkable ways our lives crossed.

My dad was an auto shop instructor at Mt. Whitney High School starting in the early 1970s. Since the pay was only for...

Dennis

Can see about 4 in that round carton, so at today's price of $27 each (BTW they were $19 in 2019!).... you have about $100 worth. :)

Back in '27 Ford's wholesale price of each @ .50 would be today's value of $9.

This speedometer was in my '22 Coupe when found.

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Nice

Verne,
Did you have the clock glass silvered?
Really neat idea!

It would be easy enough to mount a clock glass in the headlight
and light a good burner set as far forward in the burner slot as
you can get. Getting the burner forward may help save the clock glass.

If the clock glass survived driving around burner lit for a couple of miles,
you...

Tom
If you are planning to build a generator test stand, I suggest you use a trouble free diode type cutout
Relay type generator cutouts are nothing but trouble you don't need.
Ron Patterson

Thank you Dan and Jim

Terry this is what I sent you. Scroll down once you open to find generators/alternators

Unfortunately, Vintage Rims NZ is no longer around. Gary retired and sent the tooling to the UK. The tooling is up and running again, but the exchange rate is not in our favor.

Thanks for the update on Vintage Rims!

The rivets on the one in primer are not done by the factory. See how crude the peening is? It appears that someone made this version for some special purpose. Maybe to drive a PTO pulley???

Mine looks to be factory riveted once.
I get your point. & the 2 rivets seen are in 2 different directions on OP's.

I would love to find an old wooden bed for my '18, or at least the old bed irons, but have not had any luck. How's the rewooding coming along?

Only doing it on the weekends. So don’t have much done yet. Have several other things to work on with the car. Sand blasting all sorts of parts and refinishing. Also re-doing the wheels!

OK, finally got around to making copies of the brochure.

All who have expressed interest in obtaining one should have an email with instructions.

Anyone else wishing to obtain a copy, please choose one of these options:

1) send an SASE legal (long) size envelope, and I'll send back the brochure for free...

Or...

2) if you don't have a legal...

I have that same magazine with that ad and I put the book inside our 58 Vette.

Look at it this way....there will never be an easier time to replace the shaft. The cost is modest and they are available. Don't forget the drive shaft bushing up by the universal or the universal itself.

As dirty as that T is it looks to me like the side curtains and hood cover might be installed to keep the dust out!

Wow! Six of the photos have at least one 1915/'16 T in them! (Almost a record?) I always notice the 1915/'16s because my runabout is a 1915. A couple of those look well used, however numbers six and sixteen both still look pretty sharp!

Number nine is a nice picture. The lady in her center-door sedan. The car is a 1922 or 1923. Been awhile since...

Hold the left pedal in neutral , then move the lever to neutral , or pull it all the way back to park. That will eliminate most all wear on the bolt and cam face. Hold the little ratchet lever back when moving the hand lever so the ratchet won't wear.
Wipe the dirt off the parts once in a while and apply a little white grease to the cam....

That is a very interesting set of pictures! Thanks for posting. (As a note. they look like many roads still do here in New Zealand today ;-) )

James

Yikes! That isn't good :o

To again answer the question “About the level of the Ford name on the radiator” did a measure in the garage just now on two Ts, high radiator and brass radiator.

For FL, the coolant level best is above the core, and above the splash plate a bit.

So used a stick placed in the radiator, down to the top surface...

Interesting photos, but sort of sad to think that all the young people you see in the photos have long since lived their lives and are dead and gone. Too bad there is no way to follow up on what happened to them since then and how their lives turned out. A lot of historical events have happened since then such as wars, depressions, pandemics and...

When I bought my 1926 Roadster, The owner gave me a photo of the car with Roy Clark standing next to it and beside him was a large movie type spot light on wheels. He told me my car was in a movie but after scouring the net I only found one movie with Roy and old cars in it. I'm guessing my car ended up on the cutting room floor? (ouch!)

When I bought my 1927, I had to get new floorboards, as those were all covered with a thick layer of carbon, because the exhaust pipe was cherry red and started the fire.

The temperature was only about 40 degrees on that late fall tour in Maine and the owner just thought everyone had started their wood stove early!

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February 3, 2025

Bill and his lust for our hobby will be missed.

Those who have assisted Bill Bennett over the past 4 years in keeping the Bakersfield Brass Era/ PreWar Swap Meet going are committed to carrying on Bill’s legacy. If there is a path to a 2025 Bakersfield Swap Meet in Tulare, CA., this team will find it. Keep positive thoughts....

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February 3, 2025

Bill and his love for our hobby will be missed greatly.

Those who have assisted Bill Bennett over the past 4 years in keeping the Bakersfield Brass Era/ PreWar Swap Meet going are committed to carrying on Bill’s legacy. If there is a path to a 2025 Bakersfield Swap Meet in Tulare, CA., this team will find it. Keep positive...

It's not the fit of the wrench that is the problem. It is the fact that the load applied when tightening the nut is not in line with the nut that causes the wrench to twist off the flats. The better flywheel cap screw wrenches have long handles and three right angle bends to clear the flywheel magnets and bring the handle end back in line with the...

Collecting Ford oil cans is quite an obsession, as I had stated there are about 20-21 cans in my collection . Of course there are repeats, but I'm still searching for the elusive British can, it has a considerably smaller lid neck. Bit different than our American breed, only saw a picture of one once. Anybody got one? Wingnut

The guy with the missing tire is just stopped and waiting for it to catch up to him. It will roll up in about 15 more minutes!

The guys with no steering wheels are using a vise-grips to hold the steering shaft. They cut the upper steering gearbox off with a hack-saw.

I never checked the archives to see when the stanchion design changed. I suspect the early style was prone to cracking and the design changed.

That said, I have the later stanchions on my early ‘26. I can live with the improved design and most people don’t know the difference.

As far as Howell’s I got lucky twice: The Chickasaw meet used to...

Probably for switching earlier Ts to electric headlamps?

lisa, even if you could find the formula/specs for the Chanel Green, and you could find the correct Chanel Green, a computer cannot reliably show it. The same input on different screens will not necessarily display the same colour. Sometimes you just have to get out into the real world.

If you can find the colour green you like, match it to a...

Hi Dan!
Now I’m wondering if the earlier open cars like the 21 Touring I have had the kick panel like your later 25 does. It doesn’t matter to me since my car didn’t have any interior at all. It’s a built up Touring from as many of the correct parts I could find. Took me about 3 years to build it up.
If Classtique added it that’s fine by me. I...

If you move the seat back, will this interfere with access to the battery? Also, if you have strong arms, you can use a steering wheel from an earlier year which is smaller in diameter and would allow more room for the legs for pedal operation.
Norm

All very interesting, thanks for sharing. Here's some technical data on B23. Interesting also that the yield strengths drop by roughly 50% when the temperature warms form 60 degrees F to 212 degrees F. jb

Its cheaper than snake oil.

The type also depends on how the bows nest' - notice some have separate holders whereas some have single top & bottom but the middle ones are paired.

Thank you all for your posts and pictures. I have purchased an original T battery carrier that I will tune up and mount in the chassis. From pictures posted it looks like setting the muffler in place and positioning the carrier behind the rear running board support but forward of the muffler puts it about where Ford mounted it in the early 20's...

Fitting bows to sockets is not fun.

Mr Smith notes: The current article in the Vintage Ford is not needed, especially since the author couldn't get the mans name correct!

Is the issue with the spelling of Ruckstell's first name Glover as 'Grover'? FWIW, the VF article, pp 19-21 is the same as the information printed on pg 2 in the MTFCA Restoring the Ruckstell Axle Comprehensive...

Love all the old photos Tom, keep it up! Third photo from the bottom is in front of San Antonio de Pala Mission near San Diego. Here's another view of the mission bell tower and sign post from the same angle.

It was not all my doing George. I had a PM about them also, which led to the confirmation.

Allan from down under.

Terry,

PM sent.

Jerry, I haven't seen a PM or email. Could you resend using email?

Did you eventually get my email?

I figured it out, had two problems - I was trying to use the wrong nuts (too thick) and the perches I was trying to use were worn down on the thread end, took the pieces off my old rear end and all is well, thanks to all who offered help.
Jerry

Hey Bob and Allan, this is great advice. I'll be starting on the top project next week. I'll set the bows up as You advised !!

Thanks
Steve

Jerry, you hit on the second reason the ball races failed in timer conversions. I was a ware of it, but do you think i could recall it?

We had a bearing company rep give a talk at our old car club one time. He related a story about repeated failures of U joint bearings on a particular series of new Volvo trucks. They were getting repeated...

Like I said, 12000 miles on a set of four Universal T-Drivers --- actually, they still show some tread but I decided to replace them because I do a lot of touring. If you aren't getting that kind of miles from similar tires is it possible that being a little off-balance played a role? True, out of balance tires are not as obvious at slower speeds...

Also, the letter B is seen on the inside.

Roger

Also check the timer wires to the coil box for any sign of bad insulation. The spark plug wires should be arranged so that they are at least 1 from each other or anything else. Worn spark plug electrodes can cause mis-firing at higher engine speeds, especially if the gap is on the wide side. Worn electrodes can often be filed to improve...

If you are just talking about the glass swinging, the lower glass on the Canadian cars swung but the windshield post were not hinged like the 15-22 cars. Chevrolet used a very similar design windshield post, their lower glass also swung. Then there could have been windshield/posts that were offered aftermarket where the top half folded down.

In the real world of modern farming, GPS guided self steer tractors can sew seed at 4 accuracy, placing the new seed precisely between the rows of the previous season's sowing.

Allan from down under.

Me three...

At least it is supposed to get in the low 50s tomorrow. The first time this year.

Don't forget the special cotter pins designed to fit the top irons in 1921-22.

I would think that the archives possibly has the prints for the splash shields that had the battery cable holes in them. In addition, where the holes were drilled in the running board for that box. Certainly the ground strap could be similar to the positive cable.

Thanks for all responses.

I had the great pleasure of talking with Stan on the phone several times when he was rebuilding a Holly G for me. After I received the carb. I continued to call just to hear the stories and talk a bit about many subjects one I really enjoyed was our conversations of a old radio program in the Midwest, it was a set up call to a unsuspecting person...

Visit our Facebook page for info on the 2025 MTFCI tour: “Model T Ford Club International tour Owatonna Minnesota 2025”. We have a great week of touring and activities planned. Owatonna is one hour south of Minneapolis. Registration forms will appear in the Model T Times in the Jan-Feb issue.

Thanks, Mark! Members can also find the tour on the...

Unfortunately, not universally accepted.

I understand where Larry is coming from. As one who has most certainly closely examined more era photos of the first half of the 20th century than have 99 percent of the educated people of the world, and I have closely examined literally tens of thousands of era photos of model T Fords. I have seen too...

Thank you Dan & John!

Herb, I agree. Thanks for the heads up. I’ve seen the Model K Roadster photo before, and I think it was a 1908 or 09 race in Kansas City, but I’ll have to check. My guess is the Model N is a 1907 or 08, judging by the sidelamps and radiator. I believe the car in the other end of the race start is an Oldsmobile.

With a little help:...

33.0 lbs. 1925 Transmission Cover with Cover, High Speed Clutch Assembly and No reverse or brake Pedals
32.0 lbs. 1926 Transmission Cover with High Speed Clutch Assembly and No reverse or brake Pedals

Kent, the LHD Tudor sedan I bought in USA came with a Texas T parts foot throttle. What a complicated piece of geegawry it was. Whoever fitted it made a real mess of the floorboards so I made new replacements, and got rid of the foot feed at the same time. There was no Ruckstell or accessory gearbox on the car so it was a superfluous...

4400 miles in 8 days. 225 gallons of gas. Averaged 19.3 mpg. Everything accomplished except seeing my cousin in Vermont.

Thank you to everybody for all your help.

How bad is bad ? A few years back, the “brown death” was overtaking the newer all-white tires. This was not “yellowing” that responded to Bleche-Wite or other whitewall cleaners. As Wayne noted, many suspected reaction with the tubes sold at the time. That tubes posed a problem seems borne out by the fact that some vendors would not guarantee them...

The type you have mounts to door latch post and do come in L/R's and should work. The 8401X would be both the same. Go down to Richard Eagle's post in the link. He was working on a 1914 but same idea, also in this link are a lot of measurements that might be handy.

Thanks Mark! I did read thru this post when trying to find answers. The...

Great, bring it along. Hopefully this morning's -8° is replaced with the 30°s their calling for,

The top fender brackets with which I am familiar are left and right. The mounting holes in the fenders may be the same pattern, but one of the brackets would need to be rotated to align with the holes, putting the mounting slot either in front or behind the frame iron.

Allan from down under.

Ed, I will send you an email with my phone number.

Most trash transfer stations around here have drive-up scales for weighing bulky waste. If you have one in your town they may help you out if you drive the packed crate there and get a weight, and then return for a weight of the empty truck.

My letter to the Holley Brothers is ready to drop in the mail! Inquiring minds and all....