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If it is working hard, pulling a heavy load or climbing a long hill, and adding more heat than the radiator can dissipate, overheating will occur.
After a certain age, everything reminds you of something else. Those words take me back seventy years to Oatman grade on old US 66. On a broiling summer day over 100º F you would crawl along in a long...

Thank you all far taking the time to respond. I will get back after I get started in disasembly and see what U have. At this point I have the head off and can see several valves are really pitted.

The holly vaporizer carb is built very much like the claimed 50 mpg carb. Can anyone provide any mpg data on this carb compared to other t carbs. My holly nh probably gets 18 mpg, but that is only a guess. Thanks for any input.

.... I know ! I lose sleep over it every night ! :shock:

Thanks Gentlemen for the input! I will get it put back together tomorrow.

In addition, you need the hanger to support the transmission, the short coupler shaft does not do that. The Warford was designed with the TT in mind so don't see the need to move it forward. If it's the cast iron 3 speed, the shifter is at the front edge of the cover, the other models it was more in the center. Pay attention to what Hank said; If...

I LOVE the leather seat idea and it was free...looks great...

Thank you.

I searched Facebook Marketplace for a suitable couch...a plain one that had vast expanses of flat leather. It took a few weeks but I finally found a couch and loveseat pair that a lady was asking $400 for.

I know that people don't like buying used furniture (of the...

HI!
I am still looking for any of these gears. Someone snatched the gear above from Dan before I messaged him. Condition isnt a huge issue. Shoot me a message/email.

What Dan M. said.

Neal is correct. You don't have to remove the firewall or attack it with a Sawzall. Just undo the brackets from the frame, remove the front four body bolts, loosen the rear two, and put the front of the body on 2 x 4 blocks. I've done this several times, and I've never broken anything. I don't see anything to break.

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I know for a fact that my '18 TT has the early 2 spider gear rear end because I've had it apart. My grandfather used this truck from 1946 until 1963 as his orchard truck. During the fruit season we'd load it with 90 or more fruit boxes that were 40 pounds each (plus the weight of the empty box). That works out to nearly twice the One Ton rating of...

Thanks for your help

I would suggest contacting the local Model T club, The KC Chuggers. Their President is Frank Kelley, who is a true gentleman, and always willing to help people. Their website is kcchuggers.com and Frank's phone number is listed there. Welcome to Model T world.
Mike

Disregard myprevious post, i did some googling and found more info, posted it in the other thread. :mrgreen:

O.k I did some searching on the Interwebs, here's what i found :
The motor you show is from a 'Gutbrod Superior' introduced in 1951 it was the first car produced in series that had mechanical gasoline injection directly into the cylinders. the guy who engineered the system, Hans Scharenberg, later went to work for Daimler Benz and developed the...

I also found about twenty copies of a blueprint showing a 1904 CDO Model B in plan and elevation view. Most are now spoken for but I have a couple remaining. 😊

Interesting!! I've never seen but one or two Roof heads.

Also interesting is the carb on the one Steve Meixner posted. That is either a U5 or U6 Zenith. Great carbs with a brass venturi. Hard to find that aren't all beat up and missing stuff. I am working on one for an overhead setup for some body in California. Interesting that one is on an...

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I see what you mean, Allan. Looking more closely I see that the threads here are not part of the stem. That leaves just the bridge washer and the three thick washers as the oddities.

Dave, Have you tried Loco Larry? there are a few pan jigs down the hill around here. I'm betting somebody in the Riverside club has one? Try contacting the OC or LB club. The LB club has a workshop day on Saturdays and work on members cars.

Gene

Interesting piece. Gets one to thinking how these were made.
Silkscreen printing process?

It would look kind of neat to install this back into a gauge with the wacky side out.:)

MIAM, I love pizza... And probably better taste with a nice car like this one!

Who you gonna believe?
Your wife? or a fortune cookie?
Since your wife never mentioned it before you got the cookie, I would say the fortune cookie is probably correct.
Sometimes, you just have to back your luck!

I don't normally watch movies online, but today I took the time for this one. It was hard to get past the modern hair styles and other anachronisms, but it's a nice story.

Did you ever do anything with that noth east speedo head. I could still use the parts if u care to sell it.

If you have the original clutch, a 26-27 has an insert on each of the lugs on the brake drum and does not usually get worn like the earlier ones do. I don't know what brand of timer you have, but if it is a New Day they are almost fool proof. Very seldom need cleaning or service. However over the years a New Day timer brush can wear out and the...

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Question then can the exposed electronics be adapted to work properly - it costs $10 with $1. 50 shipping.
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Frank,

I couldn't see any schematic with that link, but from what I could tell from the photograph the high-current components looked as if they may well be wired as a you would expect a shunt regulator to be.

It'd be...

I have a two grate heater on my 26 touring and a one grate on my 27 cpe. Both work from heat coming from the exhaust pipe and have a fresh air intake funnel behind the radiator. The touring has a piece of flex pipe surrounding the exh pipe with a alum. split housing at the head of it and the rear that has a opening for the floor grates. The cpe....

Tod, I have all the materials he sent me a few years ago. The body is an exact match for the plans which will be vital to the restoration! You both did a wonderful job building your Omnibus. I hope Bob is doing well and enjoying your family!

Thanks for the offer, keep watching this web site for my photos when I have finished. Your car sets a high...

Thought I do a bit of searching the internet on the development of Gasoline related to the Model T. I found some interesting information and tried to get more than one reference to support what I found. Whatever owners use in their cars likely supports their engine configuration & driving habits. What was most interesting were references to...

Jim and Norman, thanks for the replies. It's good to see you all are still active here.

Allan, the crankshaft was on some homemade wood V blocks when we straightened it. The force applied deflected it approx. .4 inches then we shocked it with a pieces of brass and a hammer. It took 3 or 4 try's. I didn't want to deflect it any more than that. It...

Sometime a previous owner replaced, or worked on the running boards and splash shields, which of course means removing the body bolts. That person didn't keep track of the bolts, and two of them, a front and a center got lost. He put in 1/2 home made bolts in the middle. They do fit snugly, but are incorrect. I don't have any extras to use, so I...

Great find - thanks for that nice video.
I was surprised to see that so many T's were driven in the Netherlands - must be because they only had a few small domestic car manufacturers.

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I heard a noise like that as I was going down the road in my late Dad's unrestored '23 coupe. The engine didn't miss a beat and it was still driving fine. When I got back to my shop I found that the fan had shucked a blade. Common with the early riveted fan but unusual for the late style. There was no excess vibration from it; the fan was spinning...

If the regulator was one of Fun Projects, contact John Regan as he might be able to test & repair it.

Given the fact that RV was a newborn when you got your touring, it's not too surprising that he wasn't making points. :lol:

There is a urethane windshield sealer/bedding compound available in a standard caulking tube. It is made to install modern windshields in their frames. It is a very strong adhesive when dry. It forms a rubber like seal, but is not slick like silicone sealer. I buy it at my local NAPA, so most auto parts stores should have it, or be able to get it....

Thanks Corey. That rules out Overland for the rear hub I have now that I see the back side.

Let it swell a bit.
Your noggin grows, ya suck all the oxygen out of the room until ya have to sit down and wait for the air to come back in.
Simple.
And a very nice catalog. :)

I guess i don't want to go there!! Bud. :oops:

My 23 has 7/16 20 bolts with 11/16 hex nuts.

Stephen

Thanks Jim and Bob, very helpful! I was concerned because it looked to me that very little distortion of body (or frame) would make it hard to align the holes in the frame and body because there does not seem to be any provision for adjustment.

Appears to be of the '26 - '27 variety - especially the 2 pc. rear - photo perhaps of the rear ?

thank you Mr. McMurray and Mr. Smith

Thanks for posting these links. The catalogs are very interesting. What I like is when you click on the catalog it opens and you can read the text and see what was popular then or read about your car. The tools in the Western Auto catalog are great to see.

Are you referring to the valve guide or the lifter boss ?

Thanks to everyone that has given their ideas and opinions. Unfortunately, I had a 72 year old senior moment when posting originally and Steve caused me to catch it. I don't have a chipped valve guide; I have a chipped lifter boss, but some of you have answered my question because you...

I remember seeing someone at Hershey with a whole stack of them within the last couple years.

I found the original instructions in the bottom of the box, this is not a gas control it is a Neutral stop, thanks for all the help, Bob
will be listing on t bay soon

I just received an email from Steve. He has 4 of my 5 21 split rims done and more are still out being plated. Here is a picture the at sent.

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The modern Model T was the VW Type 1 Beetle.

I expanded the very first picture and there appears to be a rusty line and a clear line around the hub. To me this implies the hub is moving with respect to the spokes. If the nuts are tight then is time for new spokes. I made a spoke press and have rebuilt several demountable wheels quite successfully. I wouldn’t even try wheels with wood Feloes

These are the only slingers I install - manufactured by a well respected T guy !!!

Thanks Mark. I would be interested in buying an ori intake manifold if anyone has one.

It was the same thread for the whole of the Model T production from my 1909 Touring thru to my friends 1927 touring 😊
By the way the two bolts should have holes in the heads and then wired together😊

On my 14 Touring I can remove and replace the motor without removing the steering column but I have to leave the starter off. It’s tight but I’ve done it a couple of times. I use a lifting eye in #4 for the vertical lift and then switch to one in #1 for the vertical lift.
I also helped a friend within the last month on his 15 also using this...

That job may even be easier. If the valve spring is removed the valve can be pushed up out of the way. A Dremel cut-off disc could be used to make a screwdriver slot in the remainder of the broken bolt. A sacrificial small screwdriver could be bent at right angles to hold the broken bolt and the tappet rotated to screw it out. That should mean...

Mark is most likely on the mark. Because the valve stem hole on a Chev rim is close to the nearest lug to it, that lug has to be slotted to allow the valve stem to be lowered into the felloe, the lug also lowering over the wheel bolt at the same time.

On a Ford rim, the valve stem hole is further away from the nearest wheel bolt, enabling the...

I suspect the reason for the battery terminal on the switch of the early cars is for setting the timing and checking that each coil vibrates in proper order, because you can turn on the battery and slowly crank over the engine and tell exactly where the spark is in relation to the piston position. It may or may not have been for running the car on...

Huge help again to Dan! Thank you.

BTT Still hoping for input

I had an engine with similar symptoms.
Pulled the pan and things seemed tight.
Turned out it was the front main.
A blocked oil hole was the problem. (Low mileage rebuild .)
I seem to remember a remetalled cap and rebluing the crank was the solution.
Hope this helps.
Bruce

Whew thanks Luke, that extra bit of info on why to heat the whole rivet was timely to ensure the joint is tight...
Thanks again, Cheers

Definitely a front passenger door, it has the hole for the keylock. I just checked my '25 coupe door and it is only 24 inches wide and the window regulator is nearly centered like Joe's Fordor door. The door in question is wider and the regulator is farther forward. My guess is it's for a Tudor.

By the way, does anyone have window regulators for...

Thanks! I'll be careful with it.

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Pretty simple

Here's a Canadian torque tube.

I'll see if I can find a butchered one in my stash and take it apart.

The threading seemed obvious on the torque tube in my 26 Tourer (the worn out car at Maryborough) as it had spun but looking at this one maybe it was an optical illusion.

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If someone wants it, let me know.

Way to early for this weather to move in. Last year it was early also (but two weeks later than now). I'm not ready at all.

I have a little jig that hooks over the side of the bowl to position the hole, drill it #29, thread it 8-32, make a grub screw to screw into it. Someday somebody will be going through all the special jigs and etc I made for these carbs and be saying, What do you suppose this goofy looking thing is?? You should see the jig for bending up OF...

This is the last tool I found in the old toolbox. Would this be used for mounting/demounting tires on rims?

Many of the automotive pioneers that are suggested by some, would have done what Henry Ford did, had he not done it, got their knowledge and training by working for Henry Ford. Without Henry Ford’s vision and drive, most, if not all of the automotive pioneers would not have embarked on their own to start their own Companies, much less done what...

I called the number for Lisa got Fred. said the Boys were interested in restoring the car and not making it a hotrod. said car barley ran when they got it. and they were having a devil of a time trying to get the clutch out. I hope they knew how a model T clutch works before they tried to fix it. since it may have been working. and unless You know...

Whoopee !!! Something to look foreward to !!
Thanks for making the contact, Steve. Sure beats speculating and wondering.

Bruce, received your email and replied because you phone number has too many digits.

There is one in the National Motor Museum in Birdwood, just 30 odd miles from me. I knew I' seen one somewhere!

Allan from down under.

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John is referring to Jack Zimmer, and to be correct, this tour was the Jack Zimmer Memorial Color Tour. Jack had a positive influence on many of our members and unfortunately passed away far too young. His wife and daughter joined us on the tour which was a nice thing.

I have seen many T engines for sale with fresh paint on them and add says rebuilt, most the time if lucky rings and valves if that.

Well you could ‘sort of’ fit the 5 piece earlier rear section on a 24 Touring front half but it wouldn’t be quite right. Believe I would try to find a 17-20 front half to go with the 17-20 back half. Or find 24 back half to go with the 24 front half.

One more thing to do is if you have the front half of a 24 Touring you could make a 24 cutoff...

I hope a U.S. dealer will soon carry the Blockey brand. From what I've seen so far, I think the tread design is not good looking. Perhaps if I was to see one I would change my mind. Next, on the tubes. I wonder if the valve stems are the same exact dimensions as the originals, and if they supply tubes that we can use our original authentic...

Using a little grease on it to help hold it in place helps but not necessary. I’ve done with and without.

An update on head repairs: I priced a 3/4 NPT tap at $20, so tapping and installing bushings using Franks repair method will be inexpensive. Once again, thank you Frank for your response. I also checked on having the cracked head stitch repaired by a gentleman in MASS. The crack is a stress crack per him and he said it would be about $80 plus...

The coil fires, but does the plug fire? Do you have a coilbox with original style wood in it? If so, and the coil fires, and the plug fires in the open air but not in the engine, and since the trouble is with #1, what you probably have is a carbon track in the coil box wood. It's allowing some of the current to bleed off to ground (the metal side...

The magneto does not charge the battery but it can be set-up to do so. Remember the magneto puts out AC voltage. But since you have a generator it would be more complicated to do so and then whats the point.

useful discussions on how to charge a battery from your magneto

If you look at the wiring diagram yellow connection points show the path...

The sawmill, small , and lite duty i wonder if it later became Bellsaw?? Bud :D

John, I'm sorry to hear about your Dad. I was a big fan of his, and read every one of his posts here. -Ed